Stilo Share Discussion Threads

[mudbath] 11/6/2018 13:54

ALBANYVILLAS was bigging up IMM just before they lost 85% of their value so he can join my friend StiloLosses.
Agreed though on that itching finger clocktower.
Where's the calamine ?

[clocktower] 11/6/2018 12:03

That is trash ALBANYVILLAS - the company is sound and has cash, while I am not invested here at present, to suggest that is misleading and out of order. In fact when the offer dropped to 3p I was half tempted to pick the stock up.

[albanyvillas] 11/6/2018 11:04

Seems like there will be a profit warning and administration soon the way this is going to 0p

[mudbath] 10/6/2018 08:39

Good to hear from you russ505,although I am sorry to learn of your exit from TERN as it remains an exciting investment situation.
Next week(and those following)should prove to be fun for holders.
All the best.

[russ505] 10/6/2018 08:24

Morning mudbath, I'm afraid to say I sold at 17p moment of panic to protect my profits. After falling from 26/27p I made a decision to sell if it dropped below 18p
Great tip though, have made a very good profit. Hope it continues to climb for you.

[mudbath] 07/6/2018 22:09

russ505

Still in and tippling ?

[mudbath] 06/6/2018 22:16

An increasing number of highly respected ADVFN contributors are starting to post on the TERN thread,underlining the fact that it looks an interesting investment.

TERN

"I think what’s happening here is that it’s finally percolating through to people that, astonishing as it may seem, blue chip companies like Thales, gemalto Comodo, Microsoft azure etc. . . are coming to DA for KeyScaler due to the reality of there being no time to develop such a product themselves and no-one else but DA to buy one from.

And the beauty of all this is they need it. They really, really need it.
“IT’S REALLY THAT BIG”

DA has something that billions of devices need not want.

There really is a difficulty in putting a valuation on this but a billion dollar company this will become and more.
“ITS REALLY THAT BIG”

This hasn't even started to rise yet!

UNICORN/DECACORN. #PONDSNOTPENCE!"

(Thank you to Quepensa over on LSE for these thoughts)

[stilolosses] 05/6/2018 10:03

I also know somebody else who bought these shares many years ago for his retirement and it is very interesting to now know from David Ashman's right hand man that he too has been building his stake for the last 20 years or so for retirement purposes. Shame he has never made this public but then why would he.

Les Burnham himself I think is in his mid 60s and I agree that he is not far from retirement. Next 2 to 3 years maybe.

Let's not forget the original people who also set Stilo up back in the 1990s too still have their holdings in Mr Pike who himself should now be in his 70s and too invested in Stilo for retirement purposes.

I have spoken to David Ashman on a couple of occasions over the years but the question as to if he was buying these for retirement purposes specifically never came but it clearly demonstrates why he has been buying these for 20 years or so.

[stilolosses] 04/6/2018 20:59

Ashman and Les are not the only ones who have bought these for retirement planning. As we all know, retirement planning takes years and years and years.

Ashman and his sons will continue to buy these year after year after year, just like they have been doing for the last 15 to 20 years.

I also said that Stilo's note on "special dividends" did not carry much weight and with what they have now announced ( contracts not being renewed, profits down lower revenues, higher overheads, cash going down etc, et, etc), will continue to give David and his sons ample opportunity to keep buying shares as they are in absolute no rush to go anywhere for years and years to come.

The note that they also put out about buying somebody out, again, was only done as a publicity stunt, just to keep investors interested. They didn't have much money to buy anybody in the first place and as we all now know they will continue to use up their reserves going forward just on day to day expenses.

You only have to go back to the last 18 years or so annual reports to see how Stilo have promises things that never did materialise.
Its a good tactic they have been able to use year after year after year.

I am more than happy to say again on record that the wait is going to take years and years simply because of the size of the market, customers doing it themselves, etc,etc,etc.....The list is endless!

Happy retirement to David, his sons, Les and co in many, many years to come.

Fill your boots boys and happy retirement!

Nothing has happened here during the last 20 years or so and nothing of any significance will happen for some seriously considerable time yet.

Like I have said many times before, and like the company is clearly demonstrating again, 5 steps back before any movement forwards.

[clocktower] 04/6/2018 20:04

Retire and keep it in the family, mud - LOL

I hope your young boonkoh, as you might be waiting many years, if ever, imo, Good Luck though miracles do occur.

[mudbath] 04/6/2018 18:59

I know DA through attending STILO AGMs.
Both he and Les Burnham are looking at retirement.
STL is their exit route.
The value is not "hidden" as such,it merely requires appreciative consideration for it to become very evident.

[boonkoh] 04/6/2018 12:22

Mudbath: I'm a new holder here and part of my investment is due to David's sustained purchases over the years. Either he's completely delusional or there is hidden value about to be realised!Having said that, it's been a few years already since he'd started buying...

[stilolosses] 03/6/2018 20:24

You may be on the ball there Mud.

Ashman may indeed be a shrewd man.

After all, his input and contribution over the many years that he has been involved in Stilo has indeed created absolutely fantastic shareholder value.

He has always had shareholders interests at heart and not his own interests. Lets not forget to mention "the people associated to him", now that they have been "forced" to mention these in their announcements.

Hopefully, Ashman and his sons can continue to deliver the excellent and fantastic shareholder value like they have done for many years and hopefully they can continue buying as many shares as they can.

You never know, they may end up holding all shares issued.

[mudbath] 02/6/2018 09:57

Good to see you as a new poster on the STL thread boonkoh.

David Ashman always moves in with his share buys immediately stock becomes available.

A shrewd man !

[stilolosses] 01/6/2018 21:59

Another "professional market expert" who has just come out of the woodwork.

Those spreads have been around for nearly 2 decades with Stilo. Where have you been!

From where I am sitting son, you have absolutely no problem whatsoever reading and understanding what I wrote.

His been drip buying for 15 to 20 years and will continue to do so for the next 20.

Then again, you have me on filter son!

[boonkoh] 01/6/2018 18:29

I can't read what StiloLosses is writing as I've filtered out, but I'm guessing you're commenting on the chairman buy and interesting drip drip of buying at 3.75/4p in last two days.Still such a thin market but this could go 4p-5p spread soon.

[stilolosses] 01/6/2018 12:04

Great, fantastic tick up again in the share price after David and family add more shares....Normal service has resumed, after all, they have been buying Stilo shares for the last 15 or 20 years or so. No doubt they will continue buying for the next 15 or 20 years going forward.

The share price falls, David and family buys and everything is rosy again. Fantastic! So things should motor on from here.

Mind you, they did use that one important single word about future growth "Should!".

The wait will definitely continue for some years yet and it is nice that the official announcement of David purchasing shares for the first time includes the words " persons associated with David"...They could have just said Davids sons!

As 2018 has been written off 2019 "should" be somewhat better even if it is by just a few quid.

The wait continues into the 19th year so another few should not matter as long as they use persuasive language in their updates.

[stilolosses] 23/5/2018 18:58

When I realised in 2017 that things were looking very bleak for Stilo in 2017 I tried to hammer home my disappointment Clock.

I did take the liberty to offload a substantial amount of my holdings when I knew that the news was going to be bad for the next 2 to 3 years at least before they can even make up for the huge gap of £350k in loss revenues.

That's just for starters.

[clocktower] 23/5/2018 12:47

got that one spot on SL. Well done, you have a long wait now or are you going to dump your holding on any spike?

[stilolosses] 23/5/2018 10:24

Morning Mudbath!

Ooops! Sorry. I may have read the wrong AGM report.

Mind you, some will argue that this AGM and the current outlook is all positive.


Never mind about having a good morning. Its more of a case have a good write off year,....or 2.....maybe 3!

[mudbath] 23/5/2018 09:49

Classic StiloLosses post,

"All in all exactly the update I was expecting but a lot, lot, lot worse because this is not even a 5 steps forward and 2 steps forward AGM report but a totally and utterly a 5 steps backwardS AGM report."

Enjoy your day !

[stilolosses] 23/5/2018 08:01

There we have confirmation yet once again after decades of trading how Silo, like always, will write the current year off and do what I said a long time ago: move 5 steps backwards.

I was expecting a 5 steps backwards and 2 steps forward AGM statement but with absolutely even no mention at all of even any developments on anything whatsoever it shows the dire situation Stilo now expects for the whole of 2018.

First time ever I think they have put out a AGM statement and mentioned absolutely zilch about any product, any product development or any customers whatsoever on a positive side.

Only thing worthy mentioning is loss, loss, loss on all fronts.

So it will after all be 2020 before we know how they will do in 2019. Remember those professional market experts telling us that this was rubbish. Well it wasn't. It has now been confirmed yet once more as a "categorical fact".

Course 2019 should be a year of growth. It should be a year of growth because 2018 is going to be a total write off on all fronts: on developments, profits, revenues, cash balances, but as always, these are all " in line with great management expectations".

20 plus years of growing the business at a ridiculously slow and crawling pace to £1.8 million and the company cannot even grow this already minute, small, miniscule revenue base. They want to just go backwards.

All we now need is the icing on the cake that they will not even be able to grow on what will be a write off 2018 year when they report their full 2019 numbers in 2020.

They cannot even tell us anything at all about Authorbridge developments to get version 3 ready. They cannot even give us "a one word update on Author bridge" and this is because nothing is going to as planned on version 3. Not even a one single word update on Authorbridge because it is not even happening for some serious time yet.

All in all exactly the update I was expecting but a lot, lot, lot worse because this is not even a 5 steps forward and 2 steps forward AGM report but a totally and utterly a 5 steps backwardS AGM report.

Of course professional market experts will tell us that this is " a fantastic and a wonderful AGM report" and the company can and should progress like this as this is "totally" what was expected and written into the script.

More years of pain and let's not even talk of progress yet unless you think growing in 2019 is going to be considered as growth on what will be a pathetic 2018.

Cash pile down, sales down, profits down, costs but no doubt some professional market experts will argue that this is the way it suppose to be and it all going as planned.

[stilolosses] 20/5/2018 20:39

Another year came and went in which Stilo launched Version 2 of AuthorBridge in March 2017 with each user only being charged an incredibly minute amount of $100 per user per month.

Unfortunately, with version 2 being launched over 14 months ago even this bargain price of $100 per user per month resulted in no real take up of the service.

Stilo may issue their long awaited AGM this week. Lets see!

No doubt things are advancing at the levels that management expect and everything is in line to get version 3 of AuthorBridge launched, promoted and then converted into some small level sales in order to make up for the loss revenues of around £350k that will not be repeated any longer.

No doubt that things are "just rosy as ever and precisely in line with managements expectations. Just like they have been since 1999 or something like that".

[mudbath] 14/5/2018 10:17

To be informed and enthused should constitute a sufficient reason to attend an AGM.

[stilolosses] 13/5/2018 15:55

Whats the point Mud.

Some people will have been attending the AGM since the year the company was listed all those years back in 2000 with management making the same old promises.

Even if I did what will I be able to add to what has not already been said on these boards, other boards and by management themselves.

All they will be able to confirm is what I have been saying for a while now: That we are once again taking 5 steps back and 2 steps forward; AuthorBridge will hopefully be ready soon which will help contribute slowly as it is a multi year endeavour (slowly but surely, bit by bit filling the huge £350k gap in revenues that are not going to be repeated in 2018); that business is "ABSOLUTELY" in line with managements expectations (just like it always has been during the last 18 years plus) and that nothing out of the ordinary is going to happen here any year soon.

I certainly am not holding my breath for any silly announcements such as special dividends; takeovers or any contract wins that are going to be worthy of writing home about. Some of these too have been doing the rounds for many, many years.

We know that nothing out of the ordinary is going to happen at Stilo any year soon and the same old 18 year plus pattern will continue.

Lets see what they will say in their AGM in 2019 and 2020.

In terms of TERN; well, this is a totally different story to that of Stilo International.

Feel free to revisit Stilo's share price in the next 5 years and see where it is compared to the current 3 to 4 pence mark.

Feel free indeed!