How SEYE gets away with its PR utter nonsense investor interviews lies is just incredible. After saying they needed no cash to breakeven just a few weeks ago, they now raise £10m!!! I'm personally not surprised, as the recent news flow is highly suspect IMHO. How can investors believe anything they say. They have a broken business model. Too much Non reoccurring revenue on the hope it will pick up the business. |
This is alas looking like a very slow motion car crash |
I see SEYE has won a fleet deal which it has been making a lot of noise about today. I find this a little suspect as it coincide with its share price collapsing over the last couple of days. Red flag? Who knows. Meanwhile SEE remains suspended status.
There are a lot more clever people here than me, but if VW is the German OEM with SEE's software/Magna mirror, from my research its in the Polo, ID4, ID 7, Taigo, ID5, T Cross, T-Roc Tiguan, Passat and Scala (Skoda) |
PG also underplayed just how big Magna & indeed Collins might turn out to be.
The forecasts provided by SEE suggest that they guided quite conservatively for the next 2 years on Fleet.
Meanwhile SEYE has failed to record any sales for their Fleet product AIS launched 3 years ago.
I believe in SEE's G3 because if you look at the impact on world GDP of vehicle accidents i.e. an unbelievable 2%, basically this is a very very expensive problem. A device to prevent lorry accidents? Got to be worth a lot of money including saved insurance premiums. So I like SEE's top end solution. Been early to the game. So they are ready for the build up to 26. |
 Following submitted questions Paul has finally had to admit that yet again he over hyped the business. This time it was the Gen 3 opportunity and the GSR deadline of July 7th 2024. For the first time he has conceded publicly that camera-based DMS is not a regulated requirement until 2026 and that alternative non camera-based systems using the steering wheel can be used and almost certainly are the preferred option for truck makers until 2026. I say this because with just 3 months to go until the deadline we haven't gone into production with Gen 3, we've only announced 1 contract, the others have announced contracts, but they aren't being installed until 2025 / 26 and the sales targets they forecast didn't align with the annual market size for Europe of 330K vehicles.
People can call this what they like, but there has been a deliberately attempt since the London Town hall meeting to deceive and over egg the potential for Gen 3 post the 2024 GSR date while never talking about alternative solutions. Now the drop dead date is almost here and the contracts haven't arrived questions are being asked. Only this time there's nowhere hide or deceive. He has been rumbled again.
I therefore do not expect significant sales of Gen 3 and by the time we get to 2026 there will be significant competition. |
VW Advanced driver attention and drowsiness monitor systems (Magna) is in virtually all its 2024 models, also in Skoda. If the rear view mirror solution gets max Euroncap rating, I can see many volume OEM's moving to Magna. |
Glad they clarified the cash burn which looking at the numbers looked alarming. So glad they are going to slash it to about one million per month. They should therefore be cash flow positive in early 2025. |
Earnings call: Seeing Machines reports H1 2024 growth and outlook 18 March 2024
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This seems to sum up the presentation.
The outlook suggests Cars on the road to increase which in turn will increase royalty revenue. Both go hand in hand.
Outlook. Hold |
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Too many punters in SEE, many of whom do not understand how the DMS market is developing . As stated today virtually all its auto revenue comes from semi- autonomous in the US. Regulation DMS revenue hasn't even started and won't really get going until 2025. Long term play and still think Magna will take them out. As for Smart Eye breaking even by the end of 2024 - dream on. Why its mkt cap is £265m is a total mystery |
They seem to be claiming virtually zero cash burn in H2 but I don't understand how they get there. Comparing concensus and current position. Cash up by 4 million in H2 |
A reminder :- SEEING MACHINES LIMITED will be holding the meeting H1 FY2024 Results today at 8:00am. |
Oops sorry.
Though a lot of the article posted is still relevant it is old.
This the one I meant to post.
It mentions flying taxis and so on.
By combining sensor technologies with AI, machines are gaining a better understanding of the world around them, enabling mobility and manipulation of objects. Sensing technologies are a core component of the Internet of Things and the vast amounts of data collected. Utilising intelligence enables the ability to gain many types of insights that can be applied to many scenarios.
For example, over the next decade AR cloud will create a 3D map of the world, enabling new interaction models and in turn new business models that will monetise physical space.
Enterprises that are seeking leverage sensing and mobility capabilities should consider the following technologies: 3D-sensing cameras, AR cloud, light-cargo delivery drones, flying autonomous vehicles and autonomous driving Levels 4 and 5. |
Interest in SEE resulting from IIHS. GM using SEE and were rated adequate. |
Some interest today |
Lonesight I agree some people do not research even with 25,000 posts very poor. As I always say research the company first, Magna/ Collins partnership with funding, etc. Following charts is like following the crowd can lead to nowhere. |
bones698 - if you read SEE's Accounts you might not sprout so much tripe.
I guess facts are no longer considered - just jive |
Mkt cap is scary at 210m given the cash position and cash burn. Most likely will. Be another fund raise later this year which might see this down to around 3p before any recovery will start. Having such high expectations built into the share price and mkt cap means any slight negative will see the share price crash and whilst they are trying to be bullish in updates there are cracks in the numbers starting to appear.. If I was thinking of investing here i would wait to buy as it looks to be heading lower. Charts doesn't look great and that cash position is beginning to look rather low |
Just looked at the BB on LSE re Seeing M. Many seem to obsessed with Smart Eye new design wins. Design wins are very early stage product engagements with Tier 1/ OEM's and most lead to nothing, delayed or superseded. The only time a new design win has value is when a contract is signed and a value given to it. I may be wrong but I can't find a single RFQ win for Smart Eye since BMW. All its revenue appears to be coming from non-reoccurring design projects, which don't appear to materialise into contracts. It all seems to be puff and big talk and that's maybe why its got through 3 CFO's in 18 mths. Personally I think Magna's rear view mirror has many delaying contract awards, but want confirmation it works. Seeing M won't get it all their own way , as OEM's always dual source - too much risk put all your eggs in one basket. |
Crosswires You should stick with IQE which you know about. This is not going to fall by 75% |
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