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[inanaco] 13/4/2021 22:46

Blood clots ..

Chemo ? yes

Covid and Variants . Yes

the issue is, you have to train the immune system to detect covid


yet Covid causes Clots ?

what is the link between Covid and the immune system that causes clots ..

""" However, higher rates of strokes in patients with COVID-19 is somewhat unusual because it also seems to be happening in people under 50 years of age, with no other risk factors for stroke."""

so the vaccine might indeed trigger clots in a very tiny minority .......

however i would suggest the same people catching covid .... would suffer far worse clotting ....



we may never find the cause ......... other than statistics

[panama7] 13/4/2021 22:41

Wigwammer " We cannot know the long term condition of contracting Covid ". Do you know the long term effects of the Vaccines. How many people who get Covid have long Covid. How many people taking the vaccine could possibly have long term effects ? I assume you know the answer to that as why would you take something where you can't possibly know the long term effects. especially for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate and the average age of death at 83.

[wigwammer] 13/4/2021 22:09

Hi Geck... "And anyone young and fit does not need it." Young and fit people have died from covid. We cannot know the longer term impact of contracting covid. In the U.K., it is clear that lockdown is associated with dramatic reductions in hospitalisation. By anti vax, we are evidently all talking about anti covid vax. Hope that clears things up.

[geckotheglorious] 13/4/2021 21:50

"He states there is no need to temporarily restrain civil liberties. But entirely ignores the clear relationship between lockdown and reduction in hospital admissions"

There is no need to restrain civil liberties FOR ALL.

Lockdowns - do they work, do they not work.

I am torn.

Consider

California.
Florida.

One locked down completely the other vaccinated elderly/vulnerable,locked them down,let the rest carry on as normal..

One economy has weathered the storm - the other is imploding.

The mainstream media lambasts one, but gives the other a free pass.


1) Guess which locked down completely
2) Guess which state didnt.
3) Guess which the MSM lambasts daily.

The difference in cases, mortality and hospitilisations is so so marginal as to negate the complete lockdowns work theory.

Anyone ages 0-30 (Unless they have co-morbidities) does not need to be vaccinated. This is evidenced by the fact that 99.6-99.8% of people who catch it survive it.
Many do not even know they have had it in the 0-30 group!!!!!!!!

Everyone doesnt need to be vaccinated.
The elderly - yes.
The vulnerable, the unhealthy, those wuith various co-morbidities - yes.

The young, fit and healthy. Hell no.

This Covid-19 vaccine will be ANNUAL. Pfizer already saying that they will need a booster after the second dose - and that an annual top up will likely be necessary....

Erm, no thanks.

Never had the flu vaccine myself. One cold/flu every 5 years(albeit a bad one)
Rest of the time, fine.

[wigwammer] 13/4/2021 21:46

Yeadon made points, and the points have been answered. So once again, the subject changes and the narrative tries to find another way out. The anti vax story is unconvincing hence vaccination continues at record speed. I will resist responding further.

[emptyend] 13/4/2021 19:37

Excellent summary, wigwammer.He reminds me of David Icke.....

[wigwammer] 13/4/2021 19:28

I've also listened to Yeadon several times. His background makes him plausible and he's interesting to listen to. But amongst the accolades perhaps also consider he is an unemployed scientist educated at surrey university. He decries the lack of long term safety data on vaccines. But he cannot know the long term health damage from contracting covid 19. He states there is no need to temporarily restrain civil liberties. But entirely ignores the clear relationship between lockdown and reduction in hospital admissions. He states that variants are a red herring. So entirely distrusts the work of scientists such as Lindy Durrant who identify that variants ARE a problem, hence covidity and other programs around the world.... And the unhinged element of his persona is becoming more evident as time passes. He makes comparisons with pol pot and stalin? ... little wonder he tells himself to stop! He is evidently an untrusting and emotional person by nature. Nothing wrong with that necessarily - unless you are charged to get a country past a pandemic. Pleased to say the British population are putting their trust elsewhere - vaccine rollout continues at pace. ATB

[emptyend] 13/4/2021 18:59

Link to AJ discussion (just finished)https://www.aljazeera.com/program/inside-story/2021/4/13/should-governments-rethink-their-coronavirus-vaccine-rollouts

[emptyend] 13/4/2021 18:56

I've seen Yeadon's comments for months. I've also seen what his ex-colleagues have to say about him.I note (via Al Jazeera discussion, on right now) that the Sinovac vaccine tested only 50.4% effective in a clinical trial in Brazil.I think we'll have some news very soon.

[geckotheglorious] 13/4/2021 17:28

Yup, that is why I linked it.

An interesting listen.

[panama7] 13/4/2021 17:25

Gecko, I assume you have heard his Delingpole podcast. He has really called it out, a true warrior.

[geckotheglorious] 13/4/2021 17:17

EE

Dr Mike Yeadon, former CSO and VP, Allergy and Respiratory Research Head with Pfizer Global R&D and co-Founder of Ziarco Pharma Ltd, talks about his grave concerns about the Coronavirus jab

[panama7] 13/4/2021 16:25

EE, suggest you check out Dr Mike Yeadon ( ex Pfizer CSA & VP ) with regards to these variants, very interesting what he has to say. Doesn't look like these Vaccines are as safe as we are led to believe does it. Bill Gates won't be happy he needs to get them into everyone's arm as soon as possible.

[emptyend] 13/4/2021 14:53

Quite possibly a coincidence here, but there are suggestions of a link between cancer and Covid19...https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1422460/Coronavirus-Covid-patient-cancer-tumours-disappear-Hodgkin-lymphoma-blood

[emptyend] 13/4/2021 14:45

Interedting comment there re T Cells, gooosed, thanks!Meanwhile, the USA has suspended rollout of the one-shot J&J vaccine, due to clotting concerns....

[emptyend] 13/4/2021 14:29

Worth noting that there are significant fresh concerns over the South African variant, which now seems on the loose in two London boroughs (Lambeth and Wandsworth), hence wanting to test everyone and sequence all the positives. That is c.650,000 people they want to test.I know several people in those areas, all of whom got Covid19 in February....and yet they say the earliest sequenced South African case was early March. Possibly. But I suspect it was loose further and faster earlier - and that they don't have a good current picture because of the sampling approach to sequencing, coupled with the three week lag to run the sequencing. So.....when they have tested those two boroughs and sequenced the positives, my guess is that they will be starting to panic in mid-May and pressing the "new vaccine button" hard.

[octopus100] 13/4/2021 14:10

Plenty of time for scancell to get their vaccine act together. The reality is that immunity lasts circa 6 months then you need to get the Vax again. And again and Again.