Raven Prop P Discussion Threads

[zangdook] 29/6/2022 11:29

That's not good. We need a public-spirited certificated holder to set up a mirror site. Thanks for the email address, I shall make use of it.

[my retirement fund] 29/6/2022 11:22

SteMiS28 Jun '22 - 21:50 - 2061 of 2064
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Why would anyone just 'write off their investment' when there is a possibility that it will have some value?


answer = shame, Shell and McDonalds wrote their investments off due to the "shame" of beng involved with Russia and who could blame them?

[stemis] 29/6/2022 11:20

I've had an very disappointing email response from their company secretary

"At this time we are only able to provide access to our website for those holders directly on our register. If you wish to access company information at this current time, you will need to speak to your broker/nominee who will be able to access our site on your behalf."

[e-mail]

[bench2] 29/6/2022 09:32

We need an ornate certificate possibly with a double headed raven vignette , so it can go alongside my historic collection of Russian and Chinese Bonds

[dandigirl] 28/6/2022 21:09

SteMiS: Take no notice. He's like a stuck record. Been posting similar one-liners, adding nothing worthwhile, for weeks now. He is now filtered.

[stemis] 28/6/2022 20:50

Why would anyone just 'write off their investment' when there is a possibility that it will have some value?

[the monkster] 28/6/2022 19:23

just write off your entire investment and that'll negate the need to speak to anyone.

[stemis] 28/6/2022 17:58

He's out of the office until tomorrow

[dandigirl] 28/6/2022 15:49

At the Company - the receptionist only who said she would ask someone, Company Secretary, to phone me. Still waiting, of course.

[zangdook] 28/6/2022 15:12

did you manage to speak to anyone at the company? The only email I've been able to find is [e-mail] which may be out of date. I've tried it anyway, I'll see if there's a response.

[dandigirl] 28/6/2022 14:53

Trying to have one of our holdings converted into paper form. Will proceed with this if not too expensive. At least this would allow registration although I doubt there is much to learn.

Anybody have an email address please?

[zangdook] 28/6/2022 13:32

thanks. I spoke to my brokers and they don't care. To be fair there's probably not much they can do, it needs the company to change its policy.

[dandigirl] 28/6/2022 13:20

Spoke with Novella. Came as a bit of a surprise.

Trying to speak with someone in RR.

[rahosi] 28/6/2022 11:37

Could the timing be linked to last week's FTSE Quartely reshuffle?

[zangdook] 28/6/2022 08:30

They ought to have warned us they would do this. It's underhand and unprofessional when they've just asked us to vote for delisting to turn around and spit in our eye like this.

[zangdook] 28/6/2022 08:23

ring them up and complain

Raven Property Group Limited Tel: + 44 (0) 1481 712955
Anton Bilton
Glyn Hirsch
Novella Communications (public Tel: [phone]
relations adviser)
Tim Robertson
Safia Colebrook
Singer Capital Markets (UK broker) Tel: [phone]
Investment Banking - James Maxwell
/ Alex Bond
Markets - Alan Geeves / James Waterlow
Java Capital (South African Sponsor) Tel: [phone]
Jean Tyndale-Biscoe / Andrew Brooking
Ravenscroft Consultancy & Listing Tel: + 44 (0) 1481 732746
Services Limited (TISE sponsor)
Semelia Hamon

[dandigirl] 28/6/2022 08:09

Access to RR’s site now for registered investors only and to register an investor code is needed. Seems the code is to be found only on shares certificates.

[dandigirl] 28/6/2022 07:24

Listing cancelled this a.m.:

Is that it?

[dandigirl] 27/6/2022 07:47

Isn’t it frustrating to know that there are oodles of Euros in Russia but no mechanism by which payment can be made.

[bisiboy] 26/6/2022 21:28

Who the heck is Claris should I know her

[keith95] 26/6/2022 15:27

I asked II and received this as a reply:

“ In the Corporate actions it states that a share certificate will be sent out should there be one issued by the company, however as you hold these stocks in a SIPP Account you will not able to withdraw stocks as a share certificate due to HMRC regulations, therefore if you wish you can continue hold the de-listed stock in your SIPP Account with us or you can transfer that stock to another platform. Sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused.‘

I did ask II to clarify the above to other investors …. But hey ho.

[zangdook] 15/6/2022 03:13

I think there was discussion of this on the Gengulphus CGT thread. If you look back you may find it. I believe the answer was (partly) your ISA provider is obliged to give you a valuation to work with, though you may have to nag them to get a serious one.

[gfrae] 14/6/2022 15:57

If you are forced by ii to take them out of the ISA to an ordinary trading account or to certificate form, how do you value them for tax purposes ?
Eg If the value you used was £1.2 (10% yield) and the sold them outside your ISA for 10p....would you be abe to use this as a tax loss ?
and vice versa if they were valued at 1p and you eventually sold at £1.2 you would be liable to CGT on any gain.
Anyone got a clue ?