Harbour Energy Share Discussion Threads

[fictitious1] 19/3/2020 23:10

Turvart, yes, a real stick in the mud, but under the current circumstances, perhaps they feel vindicated. Hedging their own stake with a short....can't even call it a binary option!.

A while back I read this Questor piece:


In it, "A big step was taken when creditors approved the changes by the required majorities on Feb 12. This was despite the opposition of a hedge fund, Asia Research & Capital Management (ARCM), which owns a significant amount of Premier’s debt."

Let's see how they play it.

Thankfully Brent has recovered a shade and hope we see a reversal.....along with some good vibes on Covid-19.
GL.

[turvart] 19/3/2020 22:42

What the markets have not taken into consideration either about the oil market and current price is Saudi could be a strong target for attacks far worse than previous.

[love and gold] 19/3/2020 22:40

hxxps://www.forexlive.com/technical-analysis/!/wti-crude-oil-futures-jumped-to-2771-20200319

Crude oil surges on rumors, but backs off
There are some rumours that Putin has instructed Novak to engage in Saudi Arabia in talks. That is the basis of the sharp run up.

We are currently giving up the gains with the price currently trading at $25.66. I guess the rumours don't have much credence, but it hard to tell the market to ignore the price action (PS liquidity is also limited)

[fictitious1] 19/3/2020 21:54

Thanks for your input Turvart and andypop1. Reading on lse, peeps suggest the judge doesn't need to pass 'judgement' immediately at the end of the hearing. However, if 'she' did then it would've reached the media by now. We may get an RNS in the morning 10:30 ish to confirm 'await decision' within 'x' days. I doubt any compassion will play any role in this.

As for ACRM's short position. Well, they have us by the short and curlies barring a favourable decision in the court. They don't need to play the poo v PMO share price Need backing from other Insti's.

I only have a small speculative holding here. IMO, a great recovery potential, but players like ACRM make me nervous. hence a limited exposure. GL.

[andypop1] 19/3/2020 21:34

Fict,
The hearing took three days, the fact the Judge could not make a decision today suggests ARCM put a strong case forward.
Whatever the outcome shareholders will feel the pain over the coming weeks because neither option is very palatable.

I've not heard of any specific help for the oil industry and to be honest it would be political suicide given there are much more “popular“; sectors that will struggle to cope over the next three months or more, you do know we have to answer to the environmental snowflakes don't you?

[turvart] 19/3/2020 21:02

Fictitious1,

Yes you have a good point. If I was in ARCM position I would certainly drop most of the short now, IMO there is far more upside than downside from these levels.

ARCM say they put the short on to hedge their investment well now must be a good area to offload a few and bank some profits and maybe short again at a higher price, would make better sense IMO.

[fictitious1] 19/3/2020 20:52

Have to hope for a compromise of some sort. At the time of making a legal challenge the environment was entirely different and imo has only strengthened ARCM's case. The fact that the hearing only lasted 2 says suggests both sides conceding ground?.

I'd be more interested how PMO move forward and whether ARCM will maintain a hedged position. Not sure if any gov't support will be forthcoming for oilers.

[svenice7] 19/3/2020 18:48

Unless ARCM give her an envelope...

[crossing_the_rubicon] 19/3/2020 18:30

Survival....
:)

[fictitious1] 19/3/2020 18:09

teamwork119 Mar '20 - 16:34 - 48942 of 48947

I'm new on here, what verdict are we hoping for


Hope this helps:

[y1phr1] 19/3/2020 16:51

Good sign then

[amaretto1] 19/3/2020 16:41

Well shorts have been closing !

[y1phr1] 19/3/2020 16:39

Could be back to 10p then OR will rocket

[amaretto1] 19/3/2020 16:35

Judge has not come back in yet I'm not sure how it's going to react either way

[crystball] 19/3/2020 16:35

Let's hope there is a moral judgement in PMO's favour.

[teamwork1] 19/3/2020 16:34

I'm new on here, what verdict are we hoping for

[y1phr1] 19/3/2020 16:33

No leak then

[amaretto1] 19/3/2020 16:28

Probably in morning

[amaretto1] 19/3/2020 16:27

RNS Out Judgement day tomorrow !

[ekuuleus] 19/3/2020 16:24

Svenice7

Hedge - a plant

[teamwork1] 19/3/2020 16:20

It needs to break 17p