Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[vatnabrekk] 13/5/2018 14:59

The planning permission is not being pumped as a major event/achievement & share price driver, as you put it, certainly not by me anyway. The reason I mention it, and the reason I regard it as being important, is because the completion of the lease for the site (ie. the signing of the lease) cannot take place until the planning and permissions are in place, and neither can the "breaking ground" on the site take place. These are two very important events, both hinging on the planning permission. And if PHE are to meet their target of having the first commercial G3 unit operational by the end of this year, then it is rather important that there is no major delay in getting the planning permission.

That's why I mention it, and that's why I regard it as important. Not as an event to pump the share price as you so eloquently put it lagosboy, although the rise in the share price will come in due course, I have no doubt, without the need for any "pumping".

[englishlongbow] 13/5/2018 14:49

Planning permissions usually take 3 to 8 weeks for minor applications and up to 13 weeks for larger applications. All planning applications are subject to a mandatory 3 week (21 day) public consultaton before a decision can be issued. Decisions on minor applications can usually be issued quite quickly after the end of the consultation by planning officers under delegated powers. Larger applications have to go before a planning committee of councillors for a decision, which would normally meet every 4 weeks and would probably want to make a site visit first, taking a decision into the 6 to 12 week timeframe depending on when the application was submitted.

I would expect our planning application to run smoothly through the process, as it is a use compatible with the overall 'Protos' site on which it is proposed to be located and is non-polluting. The key issues as I see them would be handling vehicular movements and safe storage or use of hydrogen, but these are minor technical matters of a fairly standard nature (highways and safety) which any competent planning or engineering consultancy preparing the application would have sorted out through discussions with the local authority planners at the pre-application stage. Of course once they get the first one approved, subsequent approvals become even easier as they can point to a previous approval or approvals as precident.

N.B.
The Protos Park was established specifically to showcase new technologies particularly in the waste to energy sector.

"Protos has full outline consent and part detailed consent for energy production, as well as general manufacturing and distribution uses (B1, B2 & B8). Ongoing infrastructure works mean units can be delivered for occupation at an impressive rate." - Peel Environmental

[lagosboy] 13/5/2018 14:48

No, but its being pumped as a major event/achievement & share price driver when it should be formality, so already in the price.

[vatnabrekk] 13/5/2018 14:34

Nobody's suggesting that they can't get a PP. Are they??

[lagosboy] 13/5/2018 13:23

If you can't get a PP on a bespoke designated Efw site what chance of getting a PP anywhere else. It should be a given, or this is truly dead.

[vatnabrekk] 13/5/2018 12:46

In an interview on Proactive on 20th April, KA said he was anticipating completion of the engineering and permissions and planning in the next 45 days, which would take us to about the end of May or early June.

[tenapen] 13/5/2018 11:26

Take the plans with a pinch of salt IMO. PHE have missed tartgets year after year.

If you just take the issue of planning permission ! how long does that take ? The first few sites may be ok !.

Let it happen how it happens

I hold.

[englishlongbow] 13/5/2018 10:42

PHE could be back over 20p very quickly looking at the roll out plans.

[nelson5100] 11/5/2018 16:02

Will the directors bring following you in purchasing shares in the company?

[rathean] 11/5/2018 15:02

I've taken a small position here. I like their ambition, great niche need let's see how they get on delivering towards the end of the year.

[new tech] 11/5/2018 10:17

Keith Allaun (CEO)
4/4/2018

13 min 30 sec:

"We expect to have our first commercial facility operating in north-west England by the end of 2018 and then we expect a rapid roll out. We expect a roll out of several units the following year (2019) several dozen the year following (2020) and hopefully several hundred thereafter throughout both the UK, the EU and the Far East"

15 min 00 sec:

"We anticipate up to 200 sites here in the UK in the next ten years and 500 sites in the EU over the next ten years."



(Each site can accommodate multiple 25 tpd units).

[englishlongbow] 11/5/2018 08:12

Looks interesting. First commercial unit this year, a handful more next year, a couple of dozen the year after, then hundreds the year after.

[lagosboy] 09/5/2018 11:16

Its corrupt because it dilutes exiting shareholders to rescue the MM's - simple.

Its all a load of hogwash anyway - KA didn't even know how much was raised. Its a complete shambles and no way to run a company.

[mertymcs] 09/5/2018 09:43

How is the BOD corrupt for taking money in a placing?They have nothing to do with the dealings of the MM

[lagosboy] 09/5/2018 08:53

If its all as corrupt as you say, then Phe are complicit in that corruption as you also correctly say they approved the Placing. Why would you back a company that is run by a corrupt BOD then ?

[mertymcs] 09/5/2018 08:30

The BOD did approve the placing offer from the MM but it was heavily advised not to as it would suppress the share price and let the market makers continue their games.A lot of illegal activity goes on within MM and the FCA know about it but because they are all in bed with each other and making far too much money from it nothing gets done. People at the FCA are mostly ex city workers so who better to look after the interests of those in the city.It is all corrupt, all insider dealings and they are the ones who control the market so who is going to do anything about it.

[deccer1] 08/5/2018 21:51

To be fair newsflow is starting to pick up so it could just be a matter of time before the share price recovers.

[lagosboy] 08/5/2018 14:26

That's all just speculation and is quite different scenario to individual investors being able to short a stock.

If a market maker is short the stock because it has filled buy orders and cannot deliver the stock, any placing to get them out of this fix would mean that Phe was complicit it in it, because any Placing has to be approved by the BOD.

Frankly I think it is highly unlikely, not least because it is illegal, but also for small a cap relatively illiquid AIM stock.

Far more likely that the MM would drop the price to force out sellers, which it is perfectly entitled to do.

On average there are circa just 20 AIM stocks with short positions each week.

[mertymcs] 08/5/2018 12:23

What about the fact that the company was approached by a well know broker house who offered them money in the guise of a placing to cover a short position that they had and couldn't cover.So they offered the company this money in exchange for shares to get themselves out of an almighty mess

[pazzuzu] 07/5/2018 18:53

I'd have more time for the people if they just said, I have a short. For this reason this reason and this reason. Rather than I don't hold anything I juts have a perverse fascination on sitting on bb in my underwear rubbishing companies. I had. Ama short on lions gold and happily admitted to anyone on the bb, and gave my reason for it.

[pazzuzu] 07/5/2018 18:48

It's amazing, every single share you get thesr people on the board posting relentless posts rubbishing the company, after a few years of this I am convinced in no uncertain terms they must have shorts otherwise why would anyone be that sad to waste their time bothering.

[vatnabrekk] 07/5/2018 17:54

You must like that post that you did earlier, since you've taken to copying and pasting it. Presumably just in case anyone missed the first rendering?

[deccer1] 07/5/2018 17:04

KA didn't correctly state how much money they raised in the Placing.