Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[lagosboy] 19/11/2018 14:39

It has no money to invest - what will the capital providers require ?

Revenue, profits, hot air , gas - its all the same nonsense

[vatnabrekk] 19/11/2018 14:09

Now I'm not overly happy with the W2T arrangement, but to be fair, lagosboy, I don't think that what you say is quite right. My understanding of the agreement is that W2T only gets 50% of the profit from the SPV, not the revenue, and only if it invests 50% of the capital cost into the SPV.

[steverabet] 19/11/2018 12:38

argument over funding is, at this stage irrelevant. without patents, PHE has nothing to licence. without a major industrial to basically do all the heavy lifting, PHE is irrelevant. of course, if PHE does procure a viable EPC, the potential is huge. in the interim, it looks like more dilutive placings. if you can stomach those losses and endure the (additional) wait, good luck to you

[namruts25] 17/11/2018 06:07

lagosboy.

The funding is coming from Waste2tricity, and new orders in the future as well. Just be patient .

namruts25

[lagosboy] 16/11/2018 20:54

Indeed, but in the meantime watch your back if you are a flowerpot - the Mousetrap is out to gasify you. Don't say you have not been warned.

[vatnabrekk] 16/11/2018 20:08

Patience, lagos boy, patience!

[lagosboy] 16/11/2018 19:45

As usual interview contained nothing of substance regarding the future commercialisation and funding of the Mousetrap, outside on a flabby reference to government grants.

Timeframes now going out to 2019/20 and beyond - where's the funding coming from?

[linesal2] 16/11/2018 19:39

I think we are overdue an update- I Like the content of the video but cant help feeling we need somebody a bit more Dynamic for the marketing side... He is an Engineer after-all-Horses for courses. IMHO

[namruts25] 16/11/2018 06:13

Just to make sure that you have seen the video.

namruts25

[steverabet] 13/11/2018 15:11

boom boom! (as basil brush was wont to say)

[lagosboy] 13/11/2018 14:24

Hope its not hydrogen !

[linesal2] 13/11/2018 13:13

nicer volume certainly smells like something has been leaked....

[linesal2] 13/11/2018 08:31

Creeping up nicely, Should be having a progress report soon..

[vatnabrekk] 12/11/2018 22:59

Interesting report out 3 days ago on PHE's verification by DNV GL:


I thought these two statements were rather interesting:

- PHE has identified seven sites, including one at Ellesmere Port in Cheshire, where application-specific engineering activities are taking place, with each site comprising different specific waste streams that will be processed by a DMG® technology ‘research demonstrator’.

- "We should achieve full certification against the DNV GL Technology Qualification process at our first site”.

[lagosboy] 12/11/2018 20:40

If its a crowdfund, odds are its a dud based on the stats - funding of last resort to gullible punters.

[shrout] 12/11/2018 20:01

Here's a potential rival technology to PHE.. or possibly a complementary one depending on your viewpoint.

They're about to do a crowdfund as it goes into the commercial phase, with small investors able to take part.

Essentially the RT7000.. a modular system.. turns non-recyclable plastics back into oil, or Plaxx as they call it, which is then sold back to the petrochemicals industry, presumably to make more plastic. Circular economy.

CEO Adrian Griffiths talking plastics here with Evan Davis and two others.. .. a general discussion about the plastics industry and its problems, more specifically about RT starting at 21mins 30.

[vatnabrekk] 10/11/2018 14:45

Government-subsidised plug-in cars may never have been charged:


Interesting!

[beeezzz] 09/11/2018 22:42

It was your thread so you should know....I can't be bothered to look now..I've come to the conclusion all AIM r&d companies are a scam con, with majority never making any money.

[steverabet] 07/11/2018 21:55

well vatna, i would of course politely disagree. sony got betamaxed - that is, defeated by (in many respects) inferior technology. see also BSB - sky gained first mover advantage. there are any number of reasons why a business fails. if someone else gets there first, who would gamble on an untested (in the real world on real production parameters)system
plus, on the near horizon, we may well have 1. better recycling and recyclables 2. biodegradable plastics 3. solar processing
and those are just the flies in the ointment that are as yet knowable.
PHE have a narrow time frame to get going, otherwise their technology will be one of many solutions, and thus the commercial viability and USP of PHE will be significantly diminished

[vatnabrekk] 07/11/2018 09:59

It's not quite the same thing, steve. With the betamax story there was always going to be a winner and a loser. That's not the case here. There will be plenty of scope in the market for lots of different systems operating at the same time, each perhaps offering something slightly different. There are lots of companies producing cars, furniture, soft drinks, you name it, and they are all making profit, presumably. This is not a case of winner takes all. The important question is, will PHE be able to gasify waste to generate electricity and/or hydrogen at a price that will give them a profit. From the estimates I have seen so far, I believe that they will.

[steverabet] 07/11/2018 09:32

it all does rather point to PHE getting 'betamaxed'

[nelson5100] 06/11/2018 12:53

The Hooton Bio Power facility will be the fifth energy from waste (EfW) project delivered by renewable energy developer CoGen and will be the first non-subsidised merchant gasification facility. It is designed to burn 240,000 tonnes of waste a year, generating more than 200 GWh of electricity– enough to power about 50,000 homes. The facility is expected to be operational in the second half of 2021.

It will be built and operated by specialist contractor Burmeister & Wain Scandinavian Contractor (BWSC) to a Japanese design, on fluidised bed technology supplied by Kobelco Eco Solution. CoGen is overseeing the construction and operation of the facility as project manager on behalf of the project company.

The facility will be developed on the Peel Environmental site, Hooton Park, the second Peel site on which CoGen will build a gasification plant. The first was the recently commissioned 21.5MW Ince Bio Power plant at Protos in Cheshire.

[spawny100] 06/11/2018 11:16

Good news for the future hydrogen economy at ITM today