Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[bobbyb4] 16/8/2018 19:24

Oh there you go again try and change the subject yesterday's posts were all about pyromex and all those questions have been answered !

[vatnabrekk] 16/8/2018 19:21

@lagosboy: "Comparisons with the Pyromex system are irrelevant and as far as I am aware have not been discussed in any detail."

Trouble is, you sceptics all have different ideas and different agendas. super has been referring to the Pyromex failure often on here and has been putting great stress on it and the way that the company reported the progress or lack of it. So he clearly doesn't feel that it's irrelevant.

Perhaps you sceptics ought to get together for a coffee morning to align your various priorities and strategies.

Anyway, I feel that KA has answered some questions and should have eased some doubts, but then wtfdik!

[lagosboy] 16/8/2018 19:08

You would think that they would have better things to do with their time.

Comparisons with the Pyromex system are irrelevant and as far as I am aware have not been discussed in any detail.

Perhaps you could ask them what W2E are bringing to the party for their 50% and £20,000 in shares every month.

[bobbyb4] 16/8/2018 16:08

Here's an interesting response from David Ryan and Keith Alain to a potential investors concerns about posts on bulletin boards allegedly from an ex pyromex employee I've deleted the individuals name. Quite enlightening should be of great interest to the very clever and all knowing mr Superg I still spect the naysayers will say it is all made up! Judge for yourselves Subject: Re: PowerHouseFrom: XxxxxxTo: Keith Allaun CC: Dear Keith and David,Thank you both so much for taking the time to respond and allaying a number of concerns.I frequently read the bulletin boards but I am all too aware that there are many contributors with agendas at work. The person who posted this particular article has spent many hours writing damaging articles on Powerhouse so I was naturally skeptical of his motive, but the quote from an alleged former Pyrotex executive had me both spooked and cynical at the same time.I look forward to the expected 3rd party validation of the design and further news on siting / building of our first commercial unit.Best regards,XxxxxFrom: Keith Allaun Sent: 15 August 2018 17:11To: xxxxxxCc: David Ryan; Cameron DaviesSubject: PowerHouse Dear Xxxxx Thank you for your inquiry and continued interest in PowerHouse. I w­ould not normally respond to the chatter arising from putative former Pyromex employees, or the bulletin boards in general, but I thought it prudent to address several erroneous statements. I have asked David Ryan for his thoughts directly, and he's been so kind as to respond through his notes below. STARTSI have followed the share chat on this company for some time. I was one of the original founders of Pyromex and was involved in the development of its technology which somehow ended up in this company. I know that the company has stated they have abandoned the Pyromex technology but the technology they are using is the same, they are just presenting it in a different way. DJR : The chemical engineering processes are the same, the application to initiate the chemical engineering reactions is radically different. The technology has its failings in that the process has to be oxygen free, but the waste being subjected to gasification has an oxygen content which could make the process very dangerous. DJR : The Pyromex technology certainly had its failings. Hence our abandonment of it. However, the DMG System physical/chemical reaction relies on the introduction of an oxidising agent. We are effecting this in a substantively different way to some of the other processes that also introduce neat oxygen but have proven to be unviable commercially. Also the company states they are working with ceramics with temperature of 1500c plus, the problem here is the stability of the ceramic at that temperature to the application required. In theory the process works, in practice it has tremendous problems. DJR: Ceramics are, indeed, a challenge, hence we are working with alternative, semi-exotic materials that have proven to be both reliable and effectively impervious to caustic erosion within the temperature envelopes in which we operate. I know many think this is the best thing since sliced bread, unfortunately it is not. DJR : I cannot comment on personal beliefs.Over the many years of developing the Pyromex technology it was tested at various temperatures upto 3000c, but 1500c is a good working tempreture as all waste will gasify at 1500c. It was run continuously for the maximum of 10 hours at various times. A large range of different materials were used including ceramics to try and solve the problem or rather to find an acceptable balance in which the theory of the technology could be developed in such a way to make the technology a commercial reality. The problem being that reactor core destroys itself throughout the operation. DJR : We concur regarding the Pyromex technology. Material science has moved on quite substantively since their unit was constructed. See above. Finding a material that can give a balance to make the technology commercially viable is the goal.DJR : Agreed, we have undertaken sophisticated modelling, bench testing, validation proving, and extensive in situ testing, in the G3 Research Demonstrator at Thornton Science Park to identify operating regimes and material selections for each feedstock presented to us by potential customers. We have now designed a commercially viable process. Having said that the major problem as I have said before is the oxygen in the waste being gasified, as an oxygen free atmosphere has to be maintained at all times otherwise at 1500c a dangerous situation could occur. DJR : For such a hazardous environment situation to arise, we would need to be feeding in neat oxygen into the chamber at a significant rate, rather than the oxidising agents we are feeding. This is not an operational case. Both our empirical experience in the Demonstrator, and the scientific data derived therefrom, support our premise of operation and its safety. I personally feel that the balance needed for this technology to progress is unattainable.I think jaknife puts it overall quite well. For PHE it is a dream to come true, but the directors must know it will never be achieved, as they must know the downside but only want to listen to the upside. It is like a drug, once you are hooked, for various reasons you cannot walk away. However in this case, innocent people get hurt." DJR : I cannot comment on personal beliefs. We are prudently addressing each challenge and I have stated my position that following the Front End Engineering Design (FEED) I consider that the process is commercial, and this view is corroborated by the interest we have from blue-chip, technically astute, customers.ENDSKA: Mr. Xxxxxx I obviously take umbrage with an unnamed, anonymous, former employee of a failed technology company whom I guarantee hasn't had experience with our DMG System. As you can see, I am quite accessible and if this person would like to contact me directly with his concerns, I'd be happy to bring him up to speed on the actual science and technology. That he makes claims, yet hides his name, should raise the suspicion of any reasonable person. Our safety record is unparalleled and for someone wholly unfamiliar with the advances PowerHouse has introduced - is both ignorant and irresponsible. I can assure you that the Directors regularly explore any and all potential challenges to our operation and HS&E is a prominent Board of Directors agenda item at each and every Board meeting. The well-being and safety of our personnel, our customers, our partners, and the environment in general is paramount- and treated with the gravity it deserves. I hope the responses above help allay any concerns you might have held. Please feel free to contact me at any time to discuss the Company.Most Sincerely,Keith Keith AllaunCEOPowerHouse Energy Group, PLC

[robo175] 16/8/2018 15:41

Laughable, I'm retired and live in Spain.

[bobbyb4] 16/8/2018 15:31

Robo which MM are you linked with ?

[bobbyb4] 16/8/2018 15:31

Robo you couldn't be farther from the truth I know exactly how corrupt the MM areI am 100% convinced many of the past placings have been contrived by MM short building positions on spikes I have never hidden the fact my SIPP drawdown is 100% invested in PHE and I do indeed have to sell small amounts every now and then but as you will see from last Holdings RNS I sold 2.5 million over last 4 months hardly substantial I am not pumping to sell millions I am 100% convinces this is truly transformational technology that will greatly benefit mankind Forgive me for being an optimist I truly expect very good news soon

[mertymcs] 16/8/2018 15:24

Well he won't be able to keep pumping and selling if you keep sticking your nose in

[robo175] 16/8/2018 15:22

You two make a great double act, those comments are just laughable in fact hilarious, warwick you constantly blame the MM you really haven't got a clue and will say anything to try and pump the share price so you can keep offloading your one million trades.

[bobbyb4] 16/8/2018 15:21

You may be surprised the.

[mertymcs] 16/8/2018 15:16

Good news is months away at best and the MM know this so can carry on as they are.Even if good news comes the sentiment maybe that low that no one goes for it

[bobbyb4] 16/8/2018 15:11

8.8 mil of buys to about 1.3 mil sells MM getting shorter and shorter but really want to make it look weak when ever they can ? Any good news and this could explode imho

[bobbyb4] 16/8/2018 13:31

There are plenty with the same aims

[mertymcs] 16/8/2018 13:18

Would explain why he is never positive about a share, profits never come from peace but chaos and panic

[bobbyb4] 16/8/2018 13:14

Very true Mrty Lagos boyworks for the MM they need a few sellers to cover this mornings £22k of buys though

[mertymcs] 16/8/2018 13:08

There is not enough movement in the price for this to attract day/short term traders and it hasn't for a long time.Looking at the volumes there is very little interest in this stock beyond those picking it up for a risk to see if the technology will pay off.It is a one trick pony company and does not attract the interest of the rampers of the forums/Twitter etcSo the price will continue to drift slowly until a point the technology works or doesn't work

[lagosboy] 16/8/2018 12:49

Good buying bobby today - let me explain what is just a repeating pattern as the long so drift to zero continues. Recognising patterns are why algorithms are so superior to humans and emotion is taken out of the equation.

As successive lower lows emerge, the retails day traders following jump on their c keyboards and buy until such time that the suckers arrive and they sell into that. Eventually the suckers throw in the towel and hey presto back to the long term trend of many years and back to a lower low.

Seems Mr Ryan's buy and immediate follow up appearance on the Stock pickers Show had no impact whatsoever.

Bond was the first White Knight, now it's Ryan with his mates rates and beg, steal and burrow approach - you could be next. KA is a very shrewd guy and certainly knows how to look after No 1. Amazing really, how he has kept this afloat on the back of such past failures.

[bobbyb4] 16/8/2018 11:39

Good buying today

[bobbyb4] 15/8/2018 23:05

As I say let's wait a few months If i am wrong I am wrong and I will be a lot lot poorer if not I will accept all your messages of apology and congratulations and admiration for having the faith !!

[kalimarkalimar] 15/8/2018 21:56

Its like the fusion reactor at Culham....they know how it works, they just can't get it to work....laws of physics....or materials...

bobbyb4 - I love this statement

"Good luck all believers and long term holders the planet needs this technology !"

What is long term this century or next

[mertymcs] 15/8/2018 18:05

Interesting to see that with very little digging back on this forum you can see that KA has been spouting the same thing for the last 4 years.

If PHE are successful they could be the best performer on the UK AIM market in 2015/2016 imo.


How One Billion Rotting Tyres Could Lead You to 228% Gains
Red Hot Penny Shares
2011

You are standing in the scorching heat of the Mexican sun. You are just a few miles from the US border and right in front of you is one of the most lucrative untapped resources this side of the Texan oil fields.

It’s a rubbish dump. The Ciudad Juarez rubbish dump – home to one of the biggest piles of used car tyres in the world. For years, tyres have been collected from US highways and dumped here. And stretching out in front of you now is a steaming mountain of around 3.8 million rubber tyres that have been left to rot in the sun.

In fact there are thought to be more than 1 billion tyres dumped in towns dotted along the US-Mexico border. Some of these are burnt to generate power for cement plants nearby. Others are ground up and made into allweather playing fields. But many are simply dumped illegally – creating an ideal breeding ground for mosquitoes and rats. The tyres regularly catch fire, contaminating the air for miles around.

Why are these tyres such a potentially valuable resource? Because one company has recently discovered a clean and highly profitable way to turn them into electricity. And if everything goes to plan, this penny share could make you a 228% return from here.

The Munich Airport trial that could generate a billion dollars

In fact this penny share is not only targeting Mexican tyres. It’s been attracting interest from all across the planet with municipalities and big companies looking to offload big reserves of everything from coal waste to sewage – all of which could soon be used to generate vast amounts of electricity. Now this is not the first company to tackle the challenge of converting waste into energy. But it could be the only one to do it in a way that generates no harmful emissions and leaves nothing but a harmless sandy residue. Today, at a site just outside Munich Airport, its first waste-to-energy converter is in its fourth month of trials and over one hundred customers, ready to place 1bn dollars’ worth of business, are waiting on the results. I have never seen a waste-to-energy company that looks more convincing or offers such an immediate prospect of major sales.

The company that is poised to reap the commercial benefits is Powerhouse Energy. Let me explain why I think the shares could give you a 228% return from here...

A tremendous solution to the waste problem This country has a serious problem with waste. Every two hours we generate enough rubbish to fill the Albert Hall. The traditional disposal method of simply dumping it into a large hole in the ground is environmentally damaging and outdated. And government regulation is making it increasingly expensive to send waste to landfill, stimulating a widespread search for alternatives. The same is true all over the world.

Recycling has a part to play, while there are various methods for burning waste. These are incineration, pyrolysis, fluidised bed gasification and ultra-high temperature plasma arc burning. But none of these, though, are entirely satisfactory. They can either accept only a limited range of waste feedstock; or they generate toxic emissions; or they leave awkward residuals like tar and oils; or they only make commercial sense on a very large scale.

So the perfect solution is a small, but scalable, plant that produces no emissions, makes no noise, and is entirely safe. With these characteristics a plant can be situated at the point where the waste is generated and burnt to produce energy either for use on the spot or for feeding into the grid. Instead of having to pay to have its waste accepted, a supermarket, for example, could simply feed it into an onsite processor that converts it into power used back in the store.

Turning waste into high quality synthetic gas

This is what PowerHouse believes it will be able to offer, and it is all thanks to work done over the past 20 years in Switzerland by Peter Jeney and Dr Hans Weber. These two men founded Pyromex, of which PowerHouse already own a 30% stake and has the intention of buying out the other 70%.

The Pyromex process can take virtually any type of carbon-bearing waste and turn it into a synthetic gas, leaving an inert residual char that can be used as a building material. The synthetic gas can be burnt to generate electricity, or else it can be converted, via the Fischer-Tropsch process, into liquid fuel.

The key to the Pyromex process is the temperature to which the waste is subjected

Incineration operates at a temperature of around 760°C-1,000°C and releases noxious gases and airborne pollutants into the atmosphere, while creating undesirable residuals such as tar. Pyrolysis occurs at a slightly higher temperature of 870°C-1,100°C and while it is more efficient for energy recovery, it also releases unwanted emissions and generates the same residuals. Plasma arc gasification uses high temperature plasma torches to create a heat in excess of 5,000°C. This basically turns anything into gas, but it is a high maintenance technology that consumes a lot of energy in its operation. The Pyromex technology subjects waste to temperatures in the 1,250°C - 1,700°C range, in a controlled oxygen-free environment. The waste feedstock is first shredded, then oxygen is removed and it is fed into a cylindrical reactor through which passes a resistive heating rod that produces the very high temperature.

The waste revolves through the molybdenum alloy cylinder as it is burnt, with one key element of this technology being the boron-silicon coating on the cylinder wall that stops it from melting and reflects heat back into the centre. The process converts up to 95% of the energy content of any organic waste material into a high-energy synthetic gas, while producing zero emissions and no harmful residues. Fifteen per cent of this syngas is recycled to power the process, leaving 80% of the produced energy available for sale.

Why PowerHouse has the potential to return 228%

Already the technology has been successfully used on dried sewage sludge. With the lessons learnt from that, modifications have been made and now a trial is under way near Munich, where the Pyromex unit is situated alongside a mixed refuse sorting site and has permission to test 23 different waste streams. The 25 tonne per day unit was fired up at the end of July, and has been generating refuse-derived fuel. Three months of pre-commissioning trials are now under way. Following this phase the unit will be connected to an industry-proven internal combustion-based generation set of 1.3MW electrical capacity. Assuming that these trials are successfully completed, then PowerHouse already has a number of customers lined up. It is not planning to build and operate these plants, although this might come at a later date. It intends to contract this out to Simon, a division of Simon Engineering, and also arrange for servicing by a third party. However, it will sign the contract with the customer and intends to take 30% of the value up front to ensure positive cash flow. What could all of this be worth?

According to the financial models of Merchant Securities the valuation today should be 47p, rising to 62p in a year’s time. But another clue comes from the terms of the acquisition of Pyromex. For the outstanding 70% of Pyromex, PowerHouse is paying £2.5m immediately, with another £15.25m ‘when Powerhouse’s stock market value exceeds £92m or it achieves a profit after tax of £6.1m’; and another £15.25m ‘when the stock market value exceeds £168m and the profit after tax is £12.2m’. Today PowerHouse is valued at just £28m. These payment terms suggest that company insiders expect a big valuation uplift from here.

RHPS Verdict:

Australia’s leading coal and clean energy company Linc Energy holds a 9.99% stake in PowerHouse because it thinks that the Pyromex process could convert low grade or waste coal into energy in a way that produces no emissions. This is just one more intriguing aspect of a business that will be paid by both by its suppliers, of waste, and by its customers, for electricity.

Now there are of course a few risks that we need to consider. A lot depends on the success of the final trials in Munich. It is important thatn these go according to plan. And even if the trial is successful, we may still see a slower pace of orders from customers if the global economy sinks into the mire.

But PowerHouse has already named thirteen actual customers or ‘immediate prospects’ with projects valued at $130.5m, and has another 120 prospects accounting for a total sales pipeline worth over $1bn. Assuming that today’s trials at Munich are a success then PowerHouse could soon be selling this clean, green, energy solution all over the world.



And another........

Double value at PowerHouse as it recycles everything in one go and processes it into power or fuel
Daily Mail
By Ian Lyall
20th October 2014

On the fridge door, clamped firmly with a magnet, is what looks like a pull out wall chart you use to plot the progress of England during their latest World Cup campaign.

If only it were that interesting, for the bi-fold A4 laminate plots when we should and when we shouldn’t place one of four separate bins out for collection over a monthly cycle.

In the brown wheelie bin goes garden waste and paper; the green container takes the traditional non-recyclable rubbish; the grey receptacle plastics, and the silver bucket-sized ‘pod’ the leftovers from the week’s meals.

The bins are not there for my convenience. Instead the myriad different plastic boxes ensure the household debris from 250,000 homes in the area is sorted for efficient recycling.

But even then paper gets mixed with plastics, which in turn end up in the composting bin, to the point where the local facilities struggle to cope with the mix. Moreover, they spend valuable time and money picking through the mess.

To say this is inefficient is an understatement, but it also undermines the green ambitions of the process. With this in mind, wouldn’t it be good to have a plant capable of recycling everything in one go? Well, this is exactly what PowerHouse Energy’s technology promises.

Not just that, its EU-certified Pyromex system is capable of producing a synthetic gas that can be fed straight into the mains gas system, or used to create electricity. So, for every one unit of power used in the process five are created.

It can processes recyclable and non-recyclable rubbish and organics using the same basic technology. And it is able to do so at a fraction of the cost of traditional waste disposal.

So, a firm might spend €60 a tonne using PowerHouse’s system, compared with €160-200 to process rubbish using traditional incinerators.

PowerHouse, which is taking the technology from extensive bench-test phase to commercial scale operation, not only gets paid to receive the deliveries, it also makes money from processing it into power or fuel.

The regulations are such that in Germany, the base for its first commercial-scale operation, so long as output from the plant is less than three megawatts there is an automatic right to feed into the local grid.

At the heart of the system is an ultra-high temperature gasification (UHTG) reactor, which works by injecting nitrogen into the chamber to purge all oxygen.

It is a clean process that meets the stringent requirements of the Bavarian clean-air regulations, while the by-product is a black, inert, sand-like substance.

‘We don't burn anything, we release the energy locked-up in organic waste. We don't combust - we gasify. So there is no fire, there is no smokestack,’ said chairman Keith Allaun.

’We create clean syngas, which allows us to generate green energy.’

The footprint is incredibly small and the plants themselves require only two people to operate them.

The feed system and hoppers are off-the-shelf assemblies as are the scrubbers used to treat the gas at the other end. This makes the modular system cheap to create and easy to maintain.

Currently, the group has letters of intent for its five-tonne-per day units, the prototype for which has been thoroughly tested at the company’s facility in Switzerland.

However, the breakthrough for the company, both in terms of the commercial appeal of the disruptive technology and the financial viability of PowerHouse, will become apparent in the next 120 days.

At Etting, in Munich, it is currently operating a 25 tonne per day plant and has done so since 2010. The plan is to double capacity there, giving an operation that will generate underlying earnings (EBITDA) of around €2million.

Not only will this make PowerHouse self-sufficient, it will, after a period of operation, persuade potential buyers and financiers of the technology that it is fit for purpose.

‘Once we have the commercial plant going everything changes. It changes the entire equation,’ said Allaun.

The corporate strategy is three-pronged. There is the opportunity to build and sell the units and become a capital goods firm.

However, it will also build, own and operate – and, according to Allaun, there are 100 opportunities to do just this in the state of Bavaria alone.

And finally, PowerHouse wants to team up with waste management companies to provide them with a vertically integrated solution that would help me and millions of others with their weekly bin dilemma.

‘The waste management companies are interested in this. They have been to our facility and said ‘when this is working commercially call us again’,’ said Allaun.

The company’s £4million market capitalisation suggests PowerHouse is being punished for the mis-steps of the previous regime. Yet Allaun and his team have created a business that’s on the cusp of profitability – so the opportunity is there for the brave investor.

PowerHouse has a supportive cornerstone investor in Peter Bond. His companies Linc Energy and Hillgrove own 8.1 per cent and 5.7 per cent respectively and the entrepreneur is funding the company directly until break-even.

‘He recognises the value of the technology – and so will the rest of the market when we are generating profits,’ said Allaun.