Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[vatnabrekk] 18/10/2017 13:49

I think I'll leave it there!

[supernumerary] 18/10/2017 12:47

Indeed, but what matters is not what comes out but that the most efficient use of the input energy is attained. Whether that's as heat, or syngas, or hydrogen, or whatever, is of little practical consequence - what matters is that the process is cheap and effective.

Sadly the G3 is neither cheap nor effective - it simply doesn't do the same job, since 1) it apparently can't process waste and 2) it exists only as a prototype still under development.

As I look at it you're comparing the relative merits of unicorns and horses. Unsurprisingly the horses come off worse - as everyone knows a unicorn has only to strike a boulder with its hoof and it turns into a nugget of solid gold. How can the poor horse compete when it has only one tiny advantage - it's not mythical...

[vatnabrekk] 18/10/2017 12:00

Super: As far as I can make out, the broadcast is about recycling and incineration of the stuff that can't be recycled to produce heat and electricity. As you are aware, that is not the same as gasification at ultra-high temperature. Incineration still produces emissions, although not as much as in the good old days. Gasification does not emit toxins, and the amount of CO2 at the end of the process depends upon what is done with the syngas.

So it really isn't the same thing at all. PHE's G3 system will make all of the incinerators redundant in the fullness of time.

[warwick69] 18/10/2017 11:41

No one is gasifying with no emissions

[supernumerary] 18/10/2017 11:31

vatna - listen to the broadcast I posted yesterday. Use Google. They're easy enough to find.

[vatnabrekk] 18/10/2017 11:27

Super: What are the other companies that you are referring to, that can handle (mixed?) landfill waste? And how do they do it, is it by incineration or gasification at a lower temperature than PHE?

[warwick69] 18/10/2017 11:13

So still the richest per capita failing country in the world though! And perhaps they want to improve their emissions and environment Your scepticism knows no bounds pomander does it !! You will look so silly shortly going on and on against this great little business

[tsmith2] 18/10/2017 11:11

Who, if anyone, is going?

[warwick69] 18/10/2017 10:55

Everything new has to start from scratch and start somewhere you should not dismiss this company just because it has not yet shown it can deal with other waste ? It will in time move on to testing with other waste streams but all data has to be collaborated and a benchmark established so hence deal with one waste stream before moving on to the next or you will not have good data to work from? I am very confident the Demonstration days will raise the public, industries and investors awareness and we will be on the map soon enough!

[supernumerary] 18/10/2017 10:49

If that's what it says in the MoU, it merely shows that the entire document is based on a false premise.

The G3 unit has still not proven it can handle landfill waste, so I don't see that it's relevant to the UK. There are systems already in operation that can and do, from real companies with long records.

[warwick69] 18/10/2017 08:36

Just listened to an interview with David Lenigas on LSE very interesting hearing what he thought of AIM and why he quit as CEO of all his AIM companies Basically as I have stated over and over again it's mainly to do with the corruption of the MM who cheat for a living on a daily basis in particular the ability to naked short with out disclosure I have stated this issue repeatedly and the likes of Pomander the MM lacky have said I am delusional well no I am not We all need to complain and try to get MM shut down they are e not needed in the modern world of electronic trading they are just legalised crooks I will again email my MP to request their demise !!!!

[warwick69] 18/10/2017 07:47

Super as a nation we are still sending 10,000,000 tons to landfill every year that's over a 1000 25tpd plants and we can replace existing incinerators which burn many millions of tons of waste

So we have a massive market and will generate millions of pounds of profits !!!

[warwick69] 18/10/2017 07:26

Well super that's what it says in MOU

[robo175] 17/10/2017 20:43

Usual Warwick, he inflates everything lol

[supernumerary] 17/10/2017 20:38

Not a bad programme on waste recycling should anyone here be interested:

Costing the Earth


W - Qatar is about the size of Yorkshire, and has a population of around 2M. They will not be buying 20 waste disposal plants from PHE or anyone else.

[warwick69] 17/10/2017 13:00

The giant waste incinerator at tilbury on the Thames creates £60 million profit a year the output of 82 G3 plants yet if we can increase profits by 5 fold for Hydrogen we only need circa 20 G3 plants to create £60 mil profits so even 25% of that is £15 mil a year more than current mcap so ten bagger is a easily on the cards They are talking of 20 plants for Qatar alone !!!! Now think long term and plants world wide just imagine what future revenue can be it's mind boggling and why this can become a ftse 350 business of the future

[warwick69] 17/10/2017 12:54

Who says the profits are all being salted away what a stupid way to think you clearly have no idea how this business is going to be structured even if as some think we only get 25% of a plants profits what is wrong with that we will get paid for the plant that is being sold to the partnership or SPV and we will retain a servicing agreement and a share of profits win win win is it not no need to get huge amounts of capital so minimal dilution to PHE shareholders! And ever growing annual income from many many deals the income will be increasing all the time every time a new deal is structured! You are being to naive my friend !!

[warwick69] 17/10/2017 08:16

Deccer1 seen UKOG it's only up 50% from where I bought some yesterday when you were gloating? It's about vision you see and I have vision for PHE. Just need to wait for commercial deal which will arrive in time then they will grow and grow this is a fantastic long term investment IMHO Watch and learn doubters watch and learn Tomorrow you can see it for real it will get a lot of media coverage from now on !

[deccer1] 16/10/2017 09:00

Warwick is trying to pump ukog this morning.