Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[superg1] 27/9/2017 23:46

I have not looked at the run of news before and literally just read and posted as I went.

It looks like one fail after another and with each step huge confidence with very little hint of risk.

30 days to complete took 18 months.

The claim of simplicity turned into significant challenges ???

It can only mean looking at the news that the CEO has talked a load of BS for a long time. That's the way I see it, sorry it just seems that way, it's my opinion so you should do your own research.

I did email the CEO on some simple questions about run times on the Brisbane tests he would chat but not out it in email so I never got the answers.

However having seen the proactive investor interview as mentioned in the first post the CEO practically every part had been changed or enhanced since it arrived from Brisbane.

WHY if the plant tests out there were so good as released in news???

It also said it in the recent news.

"Through this period a number of improvements and modifications to the G3-UHt system have been made, ahead of the scaling up necessary for commercial deployment."

So to me there is a long way to go to prove the tech works commercially. There have been constant changes and it's just being fed in a controlled lab type way with tyre crumb for short length of time.

PHE went on about how great the Pyromex system was and huge interest before some time later not really commenting on problems that had been going on that it was to be entirely abandoned.

So it's restart UK with what looks like a system in its infancy not really out through its paces yet.

Keith can shout rant and rave about how great it is but history tells a story that he has done exactly this all before and is doing it all again.

The kit quite clearly Imo needs months of testing on a continuous basis in the real world by and independent player and reports of how it performed reported on by then. At that point it will give some idea if it works or not.

On top of which no patent and the CEO hasn't bought 1 share.

All just my opinion so DYOR.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 23:22

From then on it seems to be a case of shipping out of Aus for reasons that are unclear to me and now it has arrived in the UK had its first low levels tests and is the process of assessment of the parts.

There is no indicator of how long the tests have been and it doesn't look like it was tested for the length of time on multiple occasions with various feed stocks that the Pyromex kit. They raved about the rooms kit but then in reverse looking problems had been there for months but were not reported.

Germany and Switzerland abandoned, off to Aus which was abandoned and now in the UK. Lots of hype and confidence and a 30 to build time to commission took about 18 months

So to me it looks entirely unproven as yet to run for any length of time.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 23:02

6th September 2016

“This is a significant milestone for the Company, “ said Keith Allaun, Executive Chairman of PowerHouse. “We’ve been stress-testing all components of the G3, in a discrete and focused manner, over the past several months. Based upon our most recent operation of the complete system, we’ve reached the point that we can declare the successful conclusion of our formal testing program.”

The PowerHouse Energy Group ultra-high temperature gasification reactor testing program has utilized feedstock which has included both shredded plastic and tyre crumble, and has successfully cycled the system repeatedly. The nominal 1-3 tonne per day (TPD) G3 unit has continued to operate as designed; gasifying the feedstock at temperatures above 1100 degrees Centigrade, generating synthesis gas (syngas), and cleaning and cooling the syngas, which can then be used for electrical generation or other fuel creation.

So previously they said the pyromex system had been tested multiple times with various types of feedstocks and was a success with plenty of interest.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:58

30th June 2016

The technical challenges inherent in developing the PowerHouse G3-UHt system,
from scratch, were, at times, significant, however the engineering team
persevered and has now completed a fully functional, nominal 2-5 tonne per day
(tpd), system which is being demonstrated in Brisbane, Australia.

Significant challenges but all news before never gave that impression just some identified changes to improve efficiency fact the CEO went on about the simplicity of it all.

"The elegance and simplicity of this system belies
the complex engineering that has led, in less than a year,"

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:54

28th April 2016

Further to the Company announcement of 30 March 2016 relating to the
finalization of the testing program for the PHE G3 UHt system , the Company
announces that this process continues. However, the engineering team has
identified a significant opportunity to increase the efficiency of the
gasification reactor and is making modifications to the design before final
testing can be completed. The Company will update the market upon completion of
final testing.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:50

March 2016

The Company wishes to announce that there have been scheduling delays in
finalising the testing program for its newly designed PHE G3 UHt system.
Component testing was completed in a timely manner, however completion of full
system functionality has not yet been achieved.

Initiation of final testing of the system is expected during April.

Shortly after that the nomad resigns.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:48

9th November they seen ready to go but some team had noted some minor changes needed.

Keith Allaun, Executive Chairman of PowerHouse commented "This is a huge
milestone for the Company. The elegance and simplicity of this system belies
the complex engineering that has led, in less than a year, to the entire
re-imagining, redesign, reengineering, and construction of the wholly new
end-to-end G3-UHt System. For the first time commercial parties can see the
technical rigor which has been brought to bear in the creation of this unit.
We are now on the cusp of truly making a difference to the waste problem
facing our planet.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:45

15th Sept

Still not ready modifications identified as needed.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:43

30th July 2015

PowerHouse announces that the construction and commissioning of the newly developed PHE G3-UHt Waste-to-Energy system is nearing completion.

It is expected that final "burn in" of the reactor elements and integration of the electrical gen-set (for the generation of electricity from the synthesis gas produced) will be finalized within the next 14-21 days. Upon completion of this phase of the process, active testing and gasification of various feedstocks will commence at the Brisbane facility in earnest.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:41

30th June 2015

"We are within 30 days of completion of the commissioning of the newly designed PHE G3-UHt Gasification System in Australia."

It was supposed to be complete early April but now end of July.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:37

18th May still not built and expect to in next 30 days.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:36

March 2015

Company is pleased to report that progress continues on the assembly of its new PHE G3-Uht Gasification System in Brisbane, Australia. Due to several delays in component acquisition from specialist manufacturers, the commissioning of the unit is not expected to begin until early in April, rather than late in March as previously discussed.

Now the next line in same news is completely confusing

"Our complete redesign which has taken a new approach to the process has dramatically improved the efficiency, the yield, and the throughput of the end-to-end system, and incorporates patented technology from our design partners."

First part talks about the new unit haven't got the components so the commissioning isn't expected until April.

Next line talks about efficiency dramatically improved.

How on earth can you say that when you haven't got the parts to build it and clearly haven't commissioned and tested it?

Not built, not tested but

"I am confident this next step will position us as a leader in the Waste-to-Energy space."

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:28

Feb 15

Quite clearly all the bug claims fell flat on their face and it seems to me the problems were well hidden January 15 news says

"Several issues related to the Pyromex process have been a concern to potential customers for some time."

Yet news just months before as it all rosy and a of big interest to multiple countries and customers.

Germany abandoned and now off to Brisbane.

"The Board has made this decision to close all operations in Switzerland and Germany, as the expense of supporting the former Pyromex technology is felt to be unnecessary with the advent of the new PHE G-3 UHt system."

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:26

3-4 months prior

By early 2015, the Directors anticipate having a
commercially operational facility operating in Munich which is capable of
demonstrating the economic viability of the technology.

Jan 2015 highlights that there have been problems for some time?????

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:23

22nd October just a few months before that

Executive Chairman, Keith Allaun, stated, "This is a tremendous milestone for PowerHouse. We intend for Eiting to be a customer showcase, operating continuously, and generating significant economic returns for the Company. As the entire team is required for the successful commercialisation in Eiting, the delay in Thailand is an inevitable result. However, W2T (Thailand) is completely supportive of the focus of our resources on the Munich facility and remains a staunchly committed partner of Powerhouse in the ASEA region."

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:20

Jan 2015 the story of big interest and big gains changes. In Aus but previously in Germany

Over the past eight months, PowerHouse has been working aggressively with its engineering partner based in Australia to redesign the entire gasification process and inherent system infrastructure. Several issues related to the Pyromex process have been a concern to potential customers for some time. The new engineering and design eliminates these issues. The Company's engineering partner has incorporated significant improvements in reliability, operation, maintenance, thermal efficiency and dramatically increased gasification temperatures.

Picking on this bit

"Several issues related to the Pyromex process have been a concern to potential customers for some time."

I'll have to go back and see where they mentioned that in news at the time. I take some time to be many months.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:13

Sept 2014

"This facility has continued to generate significant commercial interest; the team has hosted several dozen interested parties in utilizing the technology for the creation
of syngas and the conversion of that syngas into electricity. We have
demonstrated the Ultra High Temperature Gasification process of converting
multiple waste streams into clean synthesis gas on multiple occasions."

Followed by plenty of confident statements and lots of interest etc

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:09

Some more

"we believe that we have created the most environmentally
friendly, economically efficient, modular system available on the market today.
We are enjoying inquiries from Asia, India, the United States, South America
and, of course, from across Europe. We are confident that this next year will
allow us to gain the traction necessary to begin driving the company forward."

[superg1] 27/9/2017 22:08

I'm not setting up a fail here I am simply picking through things of the past and posting. Just a process of looking at what has been achieved.

In the proactive interview the CEO talked of the big progress over the last 3 years so I have gone back to just over 3 years ago to start looking.

It looks like the system they ran back then was done dozens of times with very good results. 5 tpd unit 50 companies interested, very big stream of hydrogen gas

"We are confident that the two technologies, working in concert, will deliver
energy from waste with an efficiency not yet seen in the market."

EG

By December, 2013, the successful testing and commissioning of the company's
first nominal 5 tonne per day unit had been completed in Switzerland and
Pyromex was awarded the EU Certification verifying its compliance with all
regulatory, safety, and environmental standards necessary for sales and
operation throughout the European Union. As part of the commissioning process
the machine was run through the entire thermal cycle dozens of times- more
often than would be required in an entire year's operation- with very good
results.

A number of projects are being developed around the use of the nominal 5 tonne
per day machine and we are confident that these projects will result in sales
for the company. We have hosted over 50 individuals and companies who have
expressed interest in our system, and we continue to support these potential
customers in their permitting and pre-project development efforts.

One of the very attractive features of our Pyromex process is our ability to
"tune" the gas composition and create a very high volume stream of hydrogen
gas. Due to this ability we made the decision to acquire a beta version of the
AFC Fuel Cell- a technology that appears to be ideally suited to operate in
conjunction with our gasification reaction. We are planning a robust testing
program with the AFC Fuel Cell when the unit is delivered in Q1 of next year.
We are confident that the two technologies, working in concert, will deliver
energy from waste with an efficiency not yet seen in the market.

A major benefit of the successful commissioning of the 5 tonne per day unit has
been that we have developed a number of new modifications and innovations that
we will be integrating into our 25 tonne per day plant in Eitting, Germany.
These innovations have dramatically improved the operational efficiency and
maintenance ability of the plant. We look forward to implementing these
enhancements in our Eitting facility this next year.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 21:52

I'll go into thought spilling mode. Under a minute into the proactive investor interview.

If it worked fine in Brisbane why have they changed or enhanced every part of the unit since it arrived here. That's what the CEO says.

Then in the news on the trials

The results of that review led to minor
modifications of the operational parameters by which the most recent trial was
conducted.

So completely changed and post trial some more changes albeit minor modifications.

[superg1] 27/9/2017 21:43

This isn't a negative these are questions.

Does Nadine have still of the ofllinwg.

How many hours has a unit been tested for and over what period?

What was the production rate of hydrogen over a given period?

What is the costs of a 25 tab unit as those seem to be the modular sized units that will be used?

Have there been any 25 bpd units and have they been tested for any length of time?

Why did they leave Australia?

Why is there no patent?

Has there been any independent testing at all. Not that PHE say it works but someone entirely independent putting it through rigorous testing to give it the thumbs up?


I will look through the history of the share but if anyone has answers it would be appreciated.

[monty panesar] 27/9/2017 19:53

Warrick is giving PHE a bad name by trolling on every other board.

[norbus] 27/9/2017 17:51

PHE & AFC are two of a kind. Neither has earned a bean, full of promises, nothing delivered. Beginning to load up overheads, as they get hubris If IEH ACTA, and loads more did not make it it, what are the odds

Some weirdo, Warwick? comes onto ITM, trashing its technolgy; ITM has sold delivered, in tens of millions achieved leadership with international reference sites, and multinationals and utilities for clients.

Warwick, mind your phe business. It could get degasified in a whiff

[shavian] 27/9/2017 09:09

SG1: "The Professor" is Dr Cameron Davies, joining as Non-exec Chairman on 3 Oct. RNS dated 24 Aug refers. Hopefully he will inject some skill and gravitas into this shower.