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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Personal Assets Trust Plc LSE:PNL London Ordinary Share GB0006827546 ORD �12.50
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  50.00 0.11% 45,100.00 45,000.00 45,100.00 45,150.00 45,000.00 45,150.00 1,990 12:54:20
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Equity Investment Instruments 23.3 18.2 603.0 74.8 1,364

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
16/12/2011
14:56
Hi guys, I am convinced of the argument to hold physical gold, and do so, but am also looking for other defensive options to park some cash, particularly as a hedge against a market crash and inflation and this looks attractive Can anyone advise me re the collapse in the share price in 2008.. or was that an anomaly.. TIA
phsycho
05/12/2011
18:50
It is recording the after-hours Auction Uncrossing Trade as the Final Price of the Day. I'm not sure this is the right thing to do.
analyst
05/12/2011
17:46
Anyone know what to make of these sudden rises and falls in the unit price? It has happened more than once recently. The NAV is well above the closing price this evening.
flips
17/11/2011
00:01
Ifthecp, from what I can see, this trust kind of IS the Trojan fund in IT form...... Take a look at the trust's holdings, then compare them to the Trojan fund. The similarities are certainly there. The one plus this trust has over the Trojan fund is, this trust holds physical Gold bullion (from what I recall from the last annual report I read). Under FSA regulations (I believe), the Trojan fund cannot hold the physical and therefore must seek Gold exposure via ETFs. I have a number of reasons for not fully trusting the latter, but then again; I am a Gold bug in the current climate, so adding a couple of conspiracy theories to my beliefs is kind of par for the course. ;)
jimbo55
16/11/2011
19:14
I like a number of the Troy funds. Shame they don't have the Trojan funds in IT form. I like RIT & RICA also.
ifthecapfits
16/11/2011
18:04
The chart looks superb. Ifthecp: wise decision in these troubled times IMO. Very well managed to protect wealth.
plasybryn
16/11/2011
16:06
Just bought some of these.
ifthecapfits
26/9/2011
12:14
When will the pullback approximately end? Hard to call as this current turbulence will bounce back and forth for a while imho. Still think there is more downside and expect PNL to refelct that. Really like the look of the holdings but not ready to jump in yet. May even miss it. "I don't think Gold is in bubble territory yet but do expect a pullback towards $1500. Yet to work out the effect on the NAV but at something like 30% in gold it will have an effect so I think an add when the gold price has pulled back would be in order so I am holding fire."
timtom2
22/8/2011
17:38
I like the look of the balance and that it's in physical gold as opoposed to ETF's.
timtom2
22/8/2011
15:59
I've been trying to add to my holdings, on dips... but PNL never goes down much!! I hold 33% of my portfolio in gold ETFs. I too will be adding to that when it pullbacks.
plasterkay
22/8/2011
10:14
Very much like the plain talking on the managemnet statements. I don't think Gold is in bubble territory yet but do expect a pullback towards $1500. Yet to work out the effect on the NAV but at something like 30% in gold it will have an effect so I think an add when the gold price has pulled back would be in order so I am holding fire. Also, whenever these things are mentioned in Moneyweek there is often a bit of a run-up followed by a settle. The world is not ending yet, stocks are due a bounce, gold is due a fall-back, a better entry point into PNL will happen soon imho. James Dines (another ine to read up on) is becoming pro stocks and says his indicators are showing buying opps - sentiment is so poor and so much bad news in the air they are due a bounce. In this instance Gold may indeed pullback. That said the PNL is well balanced so up with one and down with the other may = flat.
timtom2
19/8/2011
21:22
It's in mine too. Thinking about adding...
vixen58
19/8/2011
13:36
It's in mine..one of more core holdings! It will be interesting to see when they ditch gold and start buying the FTSE 100. No doubt they will get the timing better than me. I do think gold is in a speculative bubble, as is the Swiss Franc and other so called "safe options" (US Treasury Bonds and UK Gilts - not exactly safe!). For me the FTSE 100 is a massive buy (excluding mining stocks) anywhere in the 4.500 - 5,000 range...i.e. about now!
topvest
19/8/2011
12:49
I can't believe the lack of interest in this Investment Trust. Got to be a must for anyones porfolio.
plasterkay
13/8/2011
07:11
Posting this in case anyone still invested here: http://www.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=23121675&from=518#firstpost
clive205
21/12/2010
21:36
Quite a few places, but value is harder to find at the moment. Best to keep some funds for good opportunities in the new year in my opinion.
topvest
21/12/2010
19:44
Topvest if it is not gold, where are you actually putting your money?
cockneyponce
21/12/2010
09:13
topvest, agreed re. holding Gold being risky at today's prices. However, given the comparable levels of risk out there, it's one I'm comfortable with. I've not been buying more recently, but am still keen on some producing Gold miners, or explorers with a proven resource that are undervalued by the Market. I like the sound of that quarterly bulletin book. Hopefully, PAT will publish it sooner rather than later.
jimbo55
21/12/2010
07:37
Maybe, but gold has no intrinsic value - i.e. the sum of discounted cash flows is zero. It is just held on the basis that it won't go down in price, which I think is highly risky at today's prices. US treasuries, I agree, are not risk free but do offer a cash flow. I will still hold PAT though long term as generally they know what they are doing and have a good record. I'm still waiting for the quarterly bulletin book that PAT promised to publish as a tribute about a year ago. Not sure why they keep missing their deadlines, but hopefully it will be worth the wait as it should be a good summary of their quarterlies over the last couple of decades.
topvest
20/12/2010
22:34
Speculation (rather than investment) .. or protection/insurance in the form of an asset Governments cannot conjure more of from thin air.....? Weimar Germany has a lot of stories to tell that we can all learn from. Why are China in the process of increasing their Gold Reserves? Could it be anything to do with the $906.8 billion of US Treasuries they hold - assets that one could consider to be toxic in the current climate? Is this position likely to change soon? Still happy to hold Gold. ;)
jimbo55
20/12/2010
20:22
Jimbo - all fair points. I don't disagree with many of them. I just don't think investing in gold is a prudent strategy. Speculation (rather than investment) is what it is which is why I'm surprised that PAT have put so much into it.
topvest
20/12/2010
12:06
Hope they get out of gold before the bubble bursts. Sorry, but it has to be time to sell gold. It may not be at the top, but it's not far off. Those buying gold are too late in my view. Contrarian view it may be, but that's my view.
topvest
20/12/2010
06:14
Jimbo I hate trying to find miners who are going to be winners, I just leave that to CYN to do. However if you like to talk about them come and join us here ... http://queenbee-insidethehive.blogspot.com/ (check back in the archives a few weeks) I would not touch China with a bargepole as I know too much about Chinese culture to see that train wreck is about to happen very soon. However as Faber points out, look at the "quality" emerging markets like Thailand (or better still Indonesia or if you have sufficient testosterone Viet Nam) and how it has performed this year despite a violent attempt to overthrow the government I get my silver here http://www.sarniasilver.com/ which was great when you could get your silver eagles VAT and post free. Now because of rising prices you can only get 1/2 oz's
cockneyponce
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