Paysafe Share Discussion Threads

[melf] 15/11/2016 20:31

Part of the discount is because of the company's current reliance on one customer. If you look at the H1 figures you'll see that 20% of total revenue is from a single customer who I believe to be Bet365.

[1861andy] 15/11/2016 20:20

My comment about Worldpay was more about the whole sector maybe being out of favour that could explain some of the drop.

I agree with whats said here read your posts with interest Wolf! My only question is why is PAYS discounted to its peers?

A takeover approach would not surprise at all by one of the other players.

[ramas] 15/11/2016 19:15

Stay at this level of discount and the company will be acquired ... basic maths

[wolfhound1] 15/11/2016 19:04

Well said Marine - PAYS is heavily discounted to peers - PAYS must be on a PE of sub 10 relative to worldpays PE of 24.9.......

Bain clealy know where the value lies - guess that is why they bought 3% of PAYS whilst they continue to reduce their holding in Worldpay.

People seem to forget MM only make money when there is volatility and pi's sell up whilst they have a ready buyer lined up - cue yesterdays 3.6m share sale for a 5% premium - traded at 410.7p yet MM only offering PI's 393p ....... nuff said

[marine boy] 15/11/2016 16:49

Remind me what the forward PE of Worldpay is compared to PAYS.

[1861andy] 15/11/2016 15:37

I have been in and out of PAYS since 250 and has been a great stock to be in and still hoping for that 500p+. I am like many of you and looking to get back in as i still think it has further to go and most likley there will be some acquisitions.

I try not to fight the market and this drop feels more servere than others i have been invloved with in the past. I dont believe there is any issue behind it but the market has never taken to this company! Am not sure of the reason whether its due to nature of pays earings or the fear they it will slow very quickly or could take a hit from new regulations on gambling?

I view the whole PE slighly differently i dont view in terms of 'cheap' but that PE is the price the market is willing to pay for its future earnings & growth. Its clear from the low PE that the market is not convinced! The one thing i would say is that Worldpay is also trending down so the whole market does not look to be in favour!

[zcaprd7] 15/11/2016 14:54

Trump lost money on his physical casino, maybe he has a problem with online (quite how you lose money as the house, I don't understand lol)...

[jbarcroftr] 15/11/2016 14:31

Bought a few more
Must be near the bottom now
Unless there is something we don't know

[lomax99] 15/11/2016 13:57

Reviewing Indicator Levels for Paysafe Group Plc (PAYS.L)

November 15, 2016 Herald Staff

Equity traders may be partly leaning on technical stock analysis. Paysafe Group Plc (PAYS.L) presently has a 14-day Commodity Channel Index (CCI) of -156.47. The CCI was created to typically stay within the reading of -100 to +100. Traders may use the indicator to determine if a stock is trending or to spot overbought/oversold conditions. A CCI reading above the +100 level would suggest that the stock is overbought and possibly primed for a correction. On the other hand, a reading of -100 would indicate that the stock is oversold and possibly ready for a rally.

A commonly used tool among technical stock analysts is the moving average. Moving averages are considered to be lagging indicators that simply take the average price of a stock over a certain period of time. Moving averages can be very useful for identifying peaks and troughs. They may also be used to assist the trader figure out proper support and resistance levels for the stock. Currently, Paysafe Group Plc (PAYS.L) has a 200-day MA of 407.16, and a 50-day of 443.36.

Presently, the stock has a 14-day RSI of 26.86, the 7-day is sitting at 18.64, and the 3-day is resting at 13.19. The Relative Strength Index (RSI) is one of multiple popular technical indicators created by J. Welles Wilder. Wilder introduced RSI in his book “New Concepts in Technical Trading Systems” which was published in 1978. RSI measures the magnitude and velocity of directional price movements. The data is represented graphically by fluctuating between a value of 0 and 100. The indicator is computed by using the average losses and gains of a stock over a certain time period. RSI can be used to help spot overbought or oversold conditions. An RSI reading over 70 would be considered overbought, and a reading under 30 would indicate oversold conditions. A level of 50 would indicate neutral market momentum.

Dedicated investors may be looking to employ another tool for doing technical stock analysis. The Williams Percent Range or Williams %R is a technical indicator that was designed to measure overbought and oversold market conditions. The Williams %R indicator helps show the relative situation of the current price close to the period being observed. Paysafe Group Plc (PAYS.L)’s Williams Percent Range or 14 day Williams %R presently is at -93.54. In general, if the reading goes above -20, the stock may be considered to be overbought. Alternately, if the indicator goes under -80, this may show the stock as being oversold.

We can also take a look at the Average Directional Index or ADX of the stock. For traders looking to capitalize on trends, the ADX may be an essential technical tool. The ADX is used to measure trend strength. ADX calculations are made based on the moving average price range expansion over a specified amount of time. ADX is charted as a line with values ranging from 0 to 100. The indicator is non-directional meaning that it gauges trend strength whether the stock price is trending higher or lower. The 14-day ADX for Paysafe Group Plc (PAYS.L) presently sits at 28.96. In general, and ADX value from 0-25 would represent an absent or weak trend. A value of 25-50 would indicate a strong trend. A value of 50-75 would indicate a very strong trend, and a value of 75-100 would signify an extremely strong trend.

[wolfhound1] 15/11/2016 13:50

I think we have all seen this before

Good news is that it always ends with a closing of shorts and a sharp upward reversal in the share price to new highs - and this has all of the hallmarks of end of April 2015 where we had a 20%+ reversal

I think the 3.1mn buy reported yesterday :

a) signals initial closing of shorts
b) additional purchase by likes of Bain
c) possibly entrance of another party for 0.75% of share cap

either way all argue well for reversal

[geraldus] 15/11/2016 12:55

Still think the market has an idea there is a large acquisition on the cards which will require funding of some kind.

[2bluelynn] 15/11/2016 12:43

Any chartist guys out there?? where are the fibbinaci levels at ? There must be a support to buy I thought 3.96 It must be looking good to top up at this level . There must be a reason it's been marked down so much .. is it to get cheap stock . I have level two some great support shows then it just goes all of a sudden . Any thoughts from wiser people than me much appreciated and Thankyou in advance

[f1araway] 15/11/2016 12:34

Surely a PAYS statement on this fall must be due.

[malcolmmm] 15/11/2016 12:15

AEK last shorted on 7/10/2016 but E.P.M seem to be helping the price to fall by drip feeding shorts
PAYSAFE GROUP PLC 1.52% ↑ 0.10% 2016-11-09


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PAYSAFE GROUP PLC 1.52% 2016-11-09
PAYSAFE GROUP PLC 1.42% 2016-11-08
PAYSAFE GROUP PLC 1.35% 2016-11-04
PAYSAFE GROUP PLC 1.26% 2016-11-02
PAYSAFE GROUP PLC 1.16% 2016-11-01
PAYSAFE GROUP PLC 1.00% 2016-10-28
PAYSAFE GROUP PLC 0.85% 2016-10-27
PAYSAFE GROUP PLC 0.75% 2016-10-26
PAYSAFE GROUP PLC 0.63% 2016-10-25
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[qs99] 15/11/2016 12:05

Looks a very odd sell off IMO....now standing on future p/e 10ish....and net debt reducing at a rate....anyone think this is a credible target for a competitor or too many competition issues?

[lomax99] 15/11/2016 11:51

Getting closer to top up time.....

[nurdin] 15/11/2016 11:29

Cant fathom why the sentiment has changed so suddenly here.Have trawled the internet for some clues but no joy so far.Anyone got any ideas?

[malcolmmm] 14/11/2016 19:10

Well I did sell on a 10% drop from highs but bought back a bit too soon but I think also that these are being manipulated , they at some point will close their shorts and go long ,seems to be the norm here

[slaccs] 14/11/2016 17:00

wolfhound1

Just looked up that buy of 3.5m on ADVFN. Not sure it means very much, we'll just have to wait and see. Holder since 90p.

[jarega85] 14/11/2016 15:16

Let's hope it's more that 20% this time around and we're achieving new highs!Great to see some confident holders here, although I'm generally a quiet holder, no one is taking my shares!

[wolfhound1] 14/11/2016 14:46

Hallmark of last time big short on OPAY - during the Rights Issue - late April 2015 when the shorts hit 5% and then started to be closed just ahead of the close of the rights issue followed by a share price bounce of 20% +

- large volume trades executed above market levels but no change to share price immediatly - share price rise took a few days due to reporting lag on shorts for folks to realise that shorts were closing and share price rocketed back up by about 20%

[fourgirls] 14/11/2016 14:24

All this skullduggery is very tiresome..they haven't frightened me out..nor will they.When they have finished their little games the path will be clear for this share to reach its rightful place..a lot lot higher than it is currently.I will wait.Patience will pay here.BTW the RSI at present is at its lowest point since sept 2014,make of that what you will.

[wolfhound1] 14/11/2016 13:46

BIg share buy at 410p ??


13:10:23 14-Nov-2016 410.70 3,598,000 14,776,986.00 Negotiated Trade

now that can't have been a late trade reported - something big is brewing

[wolfhound1] 14/11/2016 13:43

3.61 mn shares just traded at 1:15 - live price on screen shot up to 420p for a split second - I think MM must have thought there was some big news about to break - watch this space- something is brewing.

[wolfhound1] 14/11/2016 09:10

From last weeks uk hot views ........"further acquisitions are probably on the cards."

hxxp://www.techmarketview.com/ukhotviews/archive/2016/11/08/paysafe-remains-on-course