Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[elrico] 21/12/2016 18:43

Right, I'm really signing off for Christmas before I end up reaching for the Valium.Have a good one people.

[riskybusiness1] 21/12/2016 18:37

On website he has 14% with extra 6% held in options. Gives a 20% holding which is significant to say the least.

[john henry] 21/12/2016 18:36

Risky explain to me why you think market sentiment towards Optibiotixs is woefully low ?They have an IPO to get away, if market sentiment is right ?

[elrico] 21/12/2016 18:34

I wouldn't mind a small c14% interest.

[elrico] 21/12/2016 18:34

I don't agree John. You can't blame either for II locking in profits or the length of time blue chips take to perform DD and perform market sample research, etc. In truth or hindsight, the share price became disconnected from fundamentals & future prospects by this time last year; the latter is where we gauge timing our entry to maximize investment value. I chose 15p with a couple of later buys. I am not concerned, my time for concern and lashing out would be an RNs stating SOH had significantly reduced his holding.

[john henry] 21/12/2016 18:33

Risky it's not his company, he owns a small percentage.

[riskybusiness1] 21/12/2016 18:22

Currently 800% up from ipo..... let's not forget management and family added at 75p. Soh probably speaks with confidence as he knows exactly what's going on behind the scenes and the interest from corporates. I'm sure if he named all 6 deals tomorrow we'd be £1 plus. If I was soh I would be very annoyed at market sentiment even more so not being able to name the corporates. Then again he's probably not bothered as he's building a proper company to sell off for multiples of today's share price rather than being in it for a quick buck

[john henry] 21/12/2016 18:18

Elrico IMHO he along with TW was responsible for the pump from 40p to over a pound last year. Fair value then was probably around 40p today around 60p.Without the hype I think the share price may be sitting higher than it is at present and certainly not in a downward spiral.Unfortunately IMHO many potential investors have turned their backs on the company.The company has under delivered massively in 2016, hence the lack of interest in a company that is supposed to be in a hot sector.

[john henry] 21/12/2016 18:08

Whl2 I'm not knocking his credentials as a scientist, however as a CEO ??? It's also very disappointing that no directors have ever purchased in the open market. Hardly a sign of confidence.

[elrico] 21/12/2016 18:06

Very harsh, John. I don't see how SOH can be held to ransom for two institutional sellers, whom are just looking out for their investors by locking in substantial profits. You could argue he has sounded more positive than he should, give how long it has taken to progress JV deals, however, would he not be accused of not being positive?

IMHO we only feel depressed due to reversal of the trend and many of us had the wisdom to see the future for the human biome and the potential markets for OPTI IP, thus bought in early. I remain focussed on the future and don't allow the short term movement (OK 12 month in the case) concern me because I know if I sell I'll more than likely regret it and move on. Its a risk I'm not willing to take.

Have a good Christmas one and all. See you next year.

[john henry] 21/12/2016 18:01

Elrico are you actually looking at the shares traded on ISDX and LSE.I Should start to add them up and you will see this isnt light selling.

[john henry] 21/12/2016 17:54

F3 I'm guessing they are taking the view, not to take what OHara says as gospel. He hyped up the stock so badly, that the stock has experienced a 14 month decline (and still declining) and a 40% destruction in its share price IMHO OHara is wholly responsible for the management of investors expectations. Market Sentiment towards the company is woefully low, brought about by the OHaras BS.It's funny in earlier interviews he would constantly bang on about the rise in the companies share price, never mentions now and the 40% fall during 2016, from hero to zero.

[elrico] 21/12/2016 17:52

The why's and wherefores why anyone is willing to sell at any price is as futile as future guesstimates where the share price will be at X point in time, You either trust the longer term investment case or you don't.

Volume is not going to pickup until mid Jan, so small sells with no buyers ahead of the holidays is hardly worth stressing about. A few here have took the opportunity to accumulate. For what its worth, I think they have made a wise move.

I had a nice little tickle from an old dog with fleas, SLE, took 50% of my original SB out and added to my OPTI SB, bringing my average price down to 72p. Many traders would have said I was foolish to take out a long SB while I had a long position, as the strategic option is to go short as a hedge. I didn't have the heart.

[john henry] 21/12/2016 17:42

Mouse20 the name you mentioned had occurred to me.Large retail holder selling. If I remember rightly they held a lot of shares 1/2 M plus if what they said was true.

[riskybusiness1] 21/12/2016 17:27

There were two buys yesterday at 64p that amounted to more than today's total volume. A spread of 57-63 at one point today does not add up to me

[mouse20] 21/12/2016 17:23

Clearly investors still not convinced about the prospects despite the six possible deals. I must say that I remain a little puzzled why it would still take 12-18 months to become profitable if we only have a cost base of circa £1.6m and we expect upfront payments and royalties to start in spring with cholesterol and 2nd half of 2017 for slimbiome to kick in. And of course a number of other deals to be announced.

Wonder also if one of the selles is Shrewdmole as he had several hundred thousand shares and has not posted for a long time.

[f3rdinand] 21/12/2016 17:12

I'm trying to separate the company's progress and future from the short term share price at the moment! Makes it less depressing!Who the hell would sell 30k at 60p though after the promise of SIX multinational deals coming through! Hard to comprehend tbh

[john henry] 21/12/2016 17:08

Just saying as it is. Not looking very Rosy.

[whl2] 21/12/2016 17:06

John, do you work for the Samaritans by any chance?

[john henry] 21/12/2016 17:01

Stock being sold today at a 13 month low.

[elrico] 21/12/2016 16:55

Diamond - That's like asking a lady her age...JJ has c60-70% more than me, if that helps. :-)

[judijudi] 21/12/2016 16:51

That's normally why the price goes down!

[john henry] 21/12/2016 16:49

A lot more shares dumped today than purchased.

[whl2] 21/12/2016 16:17

Not as many as raf!