Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[diamond fibre] 06/10/2017 14:01

Thank you jj13 I only try to help people make a few quid before the institutions Goble up the shares, we are doing so well it may be we get an offer to be taken over, what's 65million to the likes of the big pharma companies? May I suggest, small change! DIAMOND.

[jestercat2] 06/10/2017 13:26

Have trades really dried up or has my feed failed?

[fathenry] 06/10/2017 13:03

zzzzzzzzzzzzz, nufin doin borin, back to me chips

[shrewdmole] 06/10/2017 12:45

Elrico

I feel understandably chastised!

S

[elrico] 06/10/2017 12:31

From SOH

Their is more to come on this area of sweeteners/sugars and the microbiome in general. As we now have products on the market and build an online consumer presence we are engaging with PR groups to promote the microbiome and our products. We have been very successful in the last few years with a number of article sin the Times, Mail,Telegraph, Nature etc but hope to expand this coverage as we build market understanding and awareness of the benefits of our products. We see the microbiome as the future of healthcare and ourselves as very much leading the use of microbiome based products in healthcare.

We have just got our OptiBiotic principle onto Wkilpedia. Currently its part of a listing on synbiotics see

we anticipate this becoming a listing in its own right in a few months. This is just a small piece in building up the understanding and market awareness of our science and the benefits it brings to healthcare.

Feel free to share.

[jestercat2] 06/10/2017 12:05

Nice to see your 44K buy go through Shrewdmole.

[elrico] 06/10/2017 11:35

Shrewdmole - Pay attention, I have covered this valuation topic before. :)


There are multiple applications, each have multiple products, multiple partners and multiple territories, thus multiple revenue streams ranging from licensing, profit share, distribution, sales and manufacturing. If I reiterate what SOH has said; "Our strategy is to build multiple partnerships and the £3-6m is based on approx 10 national partnerships per application areas each delivering £300-£500K per year of existing products which comes from our discussions at Vitafoods, It DOES NOT INCLUDE RETAIL PARTNERSHIPS which in themselves can be worth £5-6m, OR OTHER APPLICATION AREAS such as dairy, snack bars etc or partnerships with global corporates as these are more difficult to forecast both in terms of deal structure and timescale." This should give us confidence of the potential size of revenues per application and indication of the size of company.

Revenues in of £20-30m UNDER current industry standards would value Optiscreen division in the region of £200-300m. Perhaps this seems wishful. However, ProBi’s valuation of £500m at today's value on £25m sales in 2015 accounts. Valuation on Probiotic market on 10-20x industry. OPTI as group is far more divers than Probi. The only advantage Probi has over OPTI is its established market presence, but under SACCO and Nutrillnea, that is already making headway.

[dorset64] 06/10/2017 11:25

Devonlad6 Oct '17 - 08:05 - 27788 of 27799 0 0
Do you like it Dorset, buy and hold for a good few years might make you a lot, not that you need it mind!
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Lol DL, like you I'm married, so I need every penny I can get :)

The story looks good here especially as the term story is replaced by fact, as in they are being used today to good effect. Therefore this will, imo, only increase over the coming years both in size & profits of the company complete with hand-in-hand wiht the share price.

I bought in to both you mentioned DL so thanks for that but only a small intro in the 'other' one, though a slightly bigger one here. Did you buy into ARS?

[1bokke] 06/10/2017 11:12

Thanks Moormoney, on the plus side however whilst in hospital I turned bright yellow and my young daughter now thinks I'm a secret minion and has told all her classmates that!! It's not quite a superhero but I'll take what I can get!

[shrewdmole] 06/10/2017 10:57

Guys what multiplier would one apply for a high growth stock?

I'm thinking 20 to 25 if it's high growth?

I'm just trying (albeit it's pure guesswork) to get a handle on a potential valuation of Opti in 12,24,36 months time.

The problem I'm finding is the revenues come from so many different products, agreements and commissions it's nigh on impossible to cover all the potential revenue streams.

As soon as we get thoughts on one deal there's another Jv or agreement announced.

The bened deal for example - could be huge taking a proven strain with extg sales to launch in Europe and the US. But what figure do you put on it?

The dairy market and cereal ingredients could be selling the ingredient to go in pretty much any and all products on shelves in supermarkets.

It's mind boggling.

I'm actually going to give up trying to put a guesstimate on revenue and valuation.

Will leave that to the researchers and brokers.

S

[moormoney] 06/10/2017 10:56

1bokke not a nice way to lose weight! I hope you’re better soon and Opti rise cheers you up.

[joyjoy13] 06/10/2017 10:50

Someuwin
Interesting article,fully understand the implications, we're getting this sort of article popping up a lot of late, uplifting to think there's going to be help, proper help in the future, for folk suffering from depression...
thanks for posting.

[shrewdmole] 06/10/2017 10:40

They are soaking up a lot of sells and looking very strong.
Got to be a buy order being filled.

[1bokke] 06/10/2017 10:38

Any companies using fructose as a sweetener may want to talk to Opti if the story is correct...On another note I have found a much better way to achieve quick weight loss than Go Figure, just got out of hospital having contracted sepsis and lost 2 stone in 12 days. It's not as pleasent as Go Figure but damn it works!! It's great to see the positive things that have been happening with Opti whilst I've been otherwise engaged. :-)

[someuwin] 06/10/2017 10:08

LPLDL®‏ @LPLDL1 · 3 minutes ago

Results suggest that the right bacteria in your gut could combat mental disorders including anxiety & depression...

[shrewdmole] 06/10/2017 09:47

MM not playing fair today.
Showing larger sells but not the buys.

A 40k+ buy should show at some point at 73.3p.

S

[judijudi] 06/10/2017 09:45

I don’t play the tick game myself
Think it’s rather silly
If I like a post I will say so
Likewise the reverse

[diamond fibre] 06/10/2017 09:15

I find it strange that I got a thumbs down (jj?) that I had returned from a family holiday and with out upsetting other posters said I had maxed out my shares (a buy hint) looks like the information I gained has come good, as they say the proof of the pudding is in the eating, I am already retired so all my shares are for the grandchildren. DIAMOND.

[devonlad] 06/10/2017 08:05

Do you like it Dorset, buy and hold for a good few years might make you a lot, not that you need it mind!

[2350220] 06/10/2017 07:57

Thanks for the translation Elrico,
John

[lufc5] 06/10/2017 00:49

Looks like a turning point. From an R&D, into a very nice com' business. I believe, that within circa 12-18 months, this will be around the £2 mark. I'm not always wrong.
Good luck long term holders. x

[dorset64] 05/10/2017 22:53

Would agree some great posts over the past couple of days.

[joyjoy13] 05/10/2017 22:28

This forum attracting night owls!
Chuckle....

What we like!

[joyjoy13] 05/10/2017 22:26

Oh my Goodness!
Mind blowing...

Thank you to the posters for the time consuming research you do and share on this board!
You truly deserve to be millionaires!

Never in all my years witnessed the level of communication shared here, this is truly a remarkable forum!