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Health Care Equipment & Services 0.19 1.69 2.43 32.1 65.8

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16/7/2018
09:20
Optibiotix H. Daily Update: Optibiotix H. is listed in the Health Care Equipment & Services sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker OPTI. The last closing price for Optibiotix H. was 76p.
Optibiotix H. has a 4 week average price of 62p and a 12 week average price of 57.50p.
The 1 year high share price is 79.50p while the 1 year low share price is currently 54p.
There are currently 84,366,475 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 435,919 shares. The market capitalisation of Optibiotix H. is £65,805,850.50.
20/6/2018
12:02
pj 1: FWIW I'm happy for them to hold off on the Skin distribution as I think there will huge appreciation there over the years, as long as there is also appreciation in the OPTI share price.
02/6/2018
19:25
elrico: SOH comment after my query regarding the placing and the timing of it. Discount was 1p at 62p on a 63p share price at Thursday May 24th the day the sales were agreed after meets on 23rd and 24th. Typically subscription letters would go out and back on Friday but as it was the day before a bank holiday the II’s didn’t come back till the Tuesday so announced on Wednesday. If it was a planned placing we would have gone out weeks before or after the annual report when the share price would be less volatile as anyone will tell you the difficulties of brokering II’s with a fluctuating share price. I would agree with you on the ideal timing but we have to give commitments to partners to invest in the manufacturing before the deal would progress. I couldn’t give that commitment without the funds being in place so the deal stalled. As the RNS makes clear rather than delay and possibility miss the opportunity we decided to take available money at around market price. Its a 7 figure deal excluding royalties so if delivered will be of substantive value. Sometimes there are things you don’t like doing but have to look at the bigger opportunity. I have a track record of using funds to create value (see SBTX mkt cap ~£18-19m on a £750k investment; Opti ~£55m on £5.8m funds) and if we get one or more pharma deals across the line it will be worth it. Thanks for your continued support. end IMHO it seems to me the partner wanted increased productivity, thus immediate investment, presumably to ensure OPTI/Production part had the capacity to meet their needs. Given SOH is talking of a 7 figure deal and TW talks of multi millions, it suggests to me (at least) this is yet another game changer, or will be once the revenues become evident. I make this at least 5 game changers coming on stream over the next 12 months.
01/6/2018
16:20
michaelmouse: "I guess your view will stand the same with SBTX as you watch it’s value increase. I think you said it was way overvalued at 9p didn’t you? Oops" Plenty of companies are overvalued, particularly now the unrelenting bull market has been running for several years, all the "burger flippers" have got involved in the market deluding themselves that they are all suddenly investing geniuses. SBTX is just more overvalued than it was at 9p. Highly speculative and illiquid stock and the share price moves sharply up or down. Remember when you were all making comparisons between Opti and DDDD? DDDD's share price was around 10 quid, and I said it's overvalued. DDDD's share price is now 1.31. That's a whopping 87% drop. Thousands of examples of companies where the share price had been driven up to ridiculous levels. Many Opti investors piled into IMM. Highly speculative again. Dropped 75% in a day and it's still falling. I guess that means it was overvalued :). Your mantra when investing should be where's my "MARGIN OF SAFETY"? Neither Opti nor SBTX have a margin of safety imo, there is absolutely no room for error or disappointment as IMM and DDDD perfectly illustrate.
23/5/2018
17:11
nimrod22: OPTI share price loves to cycle up and down like a yoyo, its a pity that it never actually takes off despite all the news that it generates. Now lower than what it was two years ago, gofigure.
11/4/2018
17:22
judijudi: Opti share price dropping blamed on Trump That’s the best yet :)
04/4/2018
19:26
michaelmouse: Let's start with this shall we:- "We know your true game going on your persistence to troll Opti via multiple usernames over the years." I am a "free" member of ADVFN and wouldn't dream of parting with any cash to join for so very many reasons. If you wish, you have permission to contact ADVFN and check that I have only ever used the michaelmouse username. I will presume that you, Eric and the others give me permission to do the same? Only the saddest of tw*ts needs more than one username. Does that make it clear? Secondly, are you really naïve enough to believe that all their partners are going to spend multi-millions on marketing Opti's "magic" ingredient? For instance, think about the online store. Unless they do substantial marketing then nobody will know it even exists. Don't rely on their partners to stump up for this. Besides it'll take years to try and educate people about how their "magic" formula differs from the thousands already out there. Thirdly, you no nothing about large holdings in micro-cap companies if you think that they can cash in their SBTX holding anytime after the lock-in period has ended. They couldn't sell 5% of SBTX at anything near the current share price never mind 42%. As I've said many times already, they're locked-in well beyond the official period. If the share price of SBTX had taken off, as I am sure they'd hoped, when it floated then they may have indeed found it easier to sell some and raise some cash. However, as I predicted, the share price fell back below the placing price, and the illiquidity of the shares will prevent them selling enough to raise any cash in the foreseeable future. Hence, (imo) they have no choice but to raise cash through the normal channels. At the sbtx flotation I said it was irresponsible of SOH to call SBTX "a rising asset", it can be "a falling asset" as well and highly illiquid which means the shares can't be sold in a hurry. Finally, you are naïve to think that the public at large will quickly see the benefits of Opti's technology. If I go into any supermarket then there are thousands of different products claiming all sorts of wonderful things albeit in a very clever way. It'll take at least a decade for a new comer to make an impression even if it does at all. In the meantime, the competition catches up or an enhanced or improved technology supercedes it. The market is saturated with similar types of product. If you're thinking that the partners are already established with their products then it's true to an extent, but the products which include Opti's ingredients will be new to the customer and if they don't sell well then they'll just drop Opti as a supplier and discontinue the product line. As for full year 2018 results, I'll await them with much interest because therein lies a huge problem, the company just won't give any guidance. It must have some idea now surely we're already 4/5months into their 2018 year? After all, whatever investors own views are, ultimately it's the figures that will drive the share price up or down. I personally can't envisage them getting to cash flow break even anytime soon, and hence I see a fund raising is inevitable at a discount to today's share price. As ever, these are just my opinions and thoughts. If others differ then that's their prerogative.
21/3/2018
18:55
diablo26261: fyi - no one has lost any free shares in Skinbiotix by selling now - if they ever issue any the Opti share price will drop as all priced in (theory of efficient markets though clearly not 100% accurate). You could well end up with so few shares they are uneconomic to sell anyway. The obsession with this still amazes me - forget it....... Be better if Opti demonstrated it had some actual revenue streams - we all know the theory on all these amazing products and contracts but has been wearing thin on the realisation front. As markets become more volatile and sell off this is a share that will suffer more than most due to this (complete lack of revenue visibility).
13/3/2018
19:25
elrico: Michaelmouse answered while he still avoids the elephant in the room. MM: Firstly, why does it take them 5 months to prepare relatively simple accounts for the year ending in November 2017? To fill the void, surely they could issue a brief trading statement with guidance on revenues and cash remaining? Most reputable companies don't have a problem with this. Me: 3 months, 5 months, it matters not as long as they fall within the 6 month reporting limit. And you shouldn't use the word "reputable" when invested in frauds (AVN, INTQ) and a company that has restated accounts (TRAKM8). OPTI usually report interims within 4 months and FY 5 months. This info is on the company website, as has been pointed out before. MM:Secondly, by now after announcing a number of agreements they must have some idea about revenues for 2018? Me: Another double standard...lets keep it simple shall we, 7DIG, AVN, TRAKM8, IND, STL; have any of these given revenue guidance for the year ahead? If they have, I missed them. In any event, OPTI is barely 6 months (accounting calendar) into transition from R&D to commercial yet, and many of the partnerships are wrapped up in NDA's, which has attributed to the stagemation thus far. Surely you should be applauding the BOD for not ramping up their book, as so many AIM companies do. In any event, how do you quantify sales in new markets, with new products, using new science? Please explain! MM: Thirdly, the figures are really all that matter presently. At a market cap. of £50m, the potential has already been "baked in" to the share price and has been for two years. The figures they publish still need to justify the current market cap. never mind justify substantial gains in the share price Me: To a degree, I guess I can allow a little leeway with this opinion. However, I would point to the industry valuation for SweetBiotix of £20+m, just 1 of several possible spinouts, and it has no commercial footprint yet, no commercial partner that we know of yet. I would also point out OptiBiotic platform has recently enhanced the LGG strain, the world's most popular probiotic...I'll spare your blushes by not mentioning the value of this strain. OPTI have several strains, which has real potential to be significantly more valuable.....in time. In short, the IP has real value, especially those commercialised via SlimBiome and LP-LDL. MM: Anyway, it's aimho. On a more positive note, if you truly believe in the company and its potential then just hang on in there over the long term, but carefully monitor the figures because ultimately they will drive the share price. The rest is all speculation on what could or might be. Me: Ah, we are aligned. You have long advocated trusting your research and hold long term. And yes of course, one should always monitor what the company says, read between the lines and pay particular attention to companies accounts, especially those that are forced to restate profits as losses....cough, cough! MM: That's all from me for a while. Me: It's probably best, you made a hash of that and I suspect you are perhaps a little concerned the level of partnerships may well prove worthy of rewarding those of use that stand by our research, speak to the company and look at the humanbiome sector and see perhaps what others do not. Don't feel pressured to respond...It's best you don't - keep your head down. ;)
10/2/2018
22:08
parob: A repost of Risky's excellent post from 29th Jan:Had some time to kill on a flight so thought I'd give my thoughts over recent discussions on here. For those interested:Opti have been able to keep cash burn so low because they do not sell the products themselves. The fact is if they raised £10-£20m they could fund a marketing campaign and the products would be out there much faster though costs would be significant and risks far greater. As many will realise Opti rely on partners to sell the end product pulling in the cash through the license of its IP. It's a slow process as it involves not only discussions on deal structure and terms but actually getting these partners on track to create sell and advertise an entirely new product under their own branding and getting them to deliver within a certain timescale (though all at little to no cost to Opti when the ££ hits the bank). The model involves these partners going out and testing demand for the product, making sure stock levels will be sufficient to cope with continuous demand on launch, coming up with packaging, formulations, marketing campaigns and sometimes testing these new combinations together to see if there is any synergy between the ingredients. Obviously before all this there will be discussions from the interest leading to a contract and an RNS. It's not as quick and easy as negotiating the number of pencils your going to sell striking a deal and organising the transaction. The larger the partner and scale clearly the longer it will take to follow the process seeing as they will be making a significant investment. Galenicum for example (£100m+ revenues with double digit annual growth) they are a medium sized partner operating over multiple territories therefore a lot of planning and time will be required hence the H2 rollout. The first order will likely be significant for Opti imo due to their scale. Also take for example the recent surprise news via proactive interview of an American firm ordering LPLDL to trial before launch. This would suggest they are pretty sizeable and maybe have gone for a soft launch to test demand before putting in a larger order and signing a contract. An early order from the US whatever the case is a very very good sign.Some companies will be faster to market with Optis IP like HLH Biopharma who replaced an existing cholesterol reducing ingredient 'AB LIFE' made by AB-Biotics. AB-Biotics is an established Spanish pharmaceutical probiotic competitor that currently sells £6m+ annually of this inferior ingredient. Clearly represents what the industry thinks of the product and shows revenue potential for LPLDL.There is no revenue guidance yet because these companies have no clue how much they are going to sell before going out and actually doing it. SOH will also be trying to keep these companies within a particular timeframe from signing a contract to fully readying the product for launch, however they will not launch until they're completely ready seeing as they are taking all the risk so determine Y1 Y2 revenue accurately would be impossible. I'm glad Opti have not guessed and shows the experience and confidence of management. SOH must have investors nagging him for this daily. Getting something as important as revenue guidance wrong would be detrimental to the company going forward. Currently the share price is in limbo because of this so definitely take advantage if you have spare change. Low 60s is an absolute no brainer.Opti are changing an industry through their technology like the digital camera did to the Kodak - these pharmaceutical grade products are not available yet and won't be for maybe 4+ years as virtually all of Optis competitors have gone the costly, risky and time consuming Pharma route. Opti are years ahead of the microbiome curve due to their chosen route to market and the lower regulatory hurdles. When these Pharma groups start rolling out these products and more of these types of microbiome products become available the Optibiotic platform should become an extremely well sought after technology considering its enhancing abilities. Big pharma will be wanting their products to be as good as they possibly can be opening up an absolutely huge opportunity for Opti. LTH will hit the jackpot with this platform. Opti are becoming viewed due to their research as one of the leaders in an emerging market forecasted to be one of the fastest growth opportunities. Winning awards in yearly succession at global industry events such as Probiota tells its own story. Only an idiot would have you believe the corporates are not interested. For industry to value sweetbiotix at £20m already before having any type of commercial deal or product selling tells you a lot about the IP and the discussions that are taking place. That's almost half the current market cap and sweetbiotix though huge is still just 1 of 3 opportunities within the Optibiotic division alone.Opti will not necessarily be a guaranteed success however it's diversity in to so many major markets and the immense progress on all fronts means it's now highly likely. Opti have over £1m in cash, £95k cash burn per month, growing revenues from multiple partners and £4/5m of Skin holding which could be realised anytime after the April lock in. Very comfortable position to be in financially meaning Opti can play hardball or even walk away from the large players if any exclusivity deal does not maximise the potential value of the IP yet- the Opti bod know exactly what they're doing and the potential value of this IP if fully exploited. Skin, whilst offering a significant opportunity for Opti has mitigated any need to dilute via placement. SOH does not seem to be the kind of chap to lie to the market or lose track on the financials considering how tightly the ship has been run to date. Quite honestly I've never come across a company with such a strict control over finances.Even though they do not excite the market I can not stress how important these deals with HLH, Galenicum, Pharmabiota etc are to Opti as it will lead Opti to gain a far better exclusivity deal from a corporate then if it had no other revenues and relied heavily on a deal from a corporate. Corporate will want some type of exclusivity usually over a territory so clearly the amount needs to be significant to Opti. Likely this is where the waiting for the 'right deal' quote from SOH takes its meaning. By proving commercial viability through other outlets it presents little risk to the corporates hence increasing Optis stance in negotiations. The bigger the risk for them clearly the less they will offer Opti to take it on. Let's not forget they are making a huge commitment to rollout Optis IP. Opti just sits back and waits for the money from the license. It's as profitable a model you will come across but takes time to build. These smaller early deals will ultimately allow Opti to demand a larger MOQ or a Royalty payment for exclusivity over a particular territory/continent than if it was going solely for a deal with the corporates from the start. It's how to quickly increase the value of the IP within the industry very early on.On balance there is only one thing that concerns me about Opti at the moment and that is the time it takes to start building the revenues following signing these deals before the cash gets low and the market starts to get nervous. Though as discussed Skinbio shares of £5m mitigates this risk and Optis main outgoings are R&D based therefore they can cut these down if absolute necessary. Revenues should be building with the boss forecasting profit by YE 2018 so clearly revenues are on their way in size from somewhere. Of course I would like more deals to be signed but with such an unusual low cost model it's not surprising the time it takes even though the technology is brilliant. Holding out for the right deal will ultimately create a solid sustainable business for LTH.I've increased my holding by 10% the past month. The model is what is causing the slow appearance of commercialisation though anyone paying attention will realise IP is the most valuable thing Opti have and is what the business is built upon. Selling it cheaply early on would be the most stupid thing they could do. Therefore holding out building the smaller deals first is actually how you maximise and 'wait for the right deal'. When these exclusivity deals come through they'll be higher due to the methods used to get that better deal. When all this good news comes together in terms of potential ££ the market will be scrambling for the stock I have no doubt that will happen hence why I'm still here following my most successful investment decision to date. Unless you need to sell you should be rubbing your hands at these prices. Once all the deals really start flowing and the money is shown revenues should grow in excess of 100% per year, more when these exclusivity deals get signed off. Risky - from sunny Australia
29/1/2018
02:50
riskybusiness1: Had some time to kill on a flight so thought I'd give my thoughts over recent discussions on here. For those interested:Opti have been able to keep cash burn so low because they do not sell the products themselves. The fact is if they raised £10-£20m they could fund a marketing campaign and the products would be out there much faster though costs would be significant and risks far greater. As many will realise Opti rely on partners to sell the end product pulling in the cash through the license of its IP. It's a slow process as it involves not only discussions on deal structure and terms but actually getting these partners on track to create sell and advertise an entirely new product under their own branding and getting them to deliver within a certain timescale (though all at little to no cost to Opti when the ££ hits the bank). The model involves these partners going out and testing demand for the product, making sure stock levels will be sufficient to cope with continuous demand on launch, coming up with packaging, formulations, marketing campaigns and sometimes testing these new combinations together to see if there is any synergy between the ingredients. Obviously before all this there will be discussions from the interest leading to a contract and an RNS. It's not as quick and easy as negotiating the number of pencils your going to sell striking a deal and organising the transaction. The larger the partner and scale clearly the longer it will take to follow the process seeing as they will be making a significant investment. Galenicum for example (£100m+ revenues with double digit annual growth) they are a medium sized partner operating over multiple territories therefore a lot of planning and time will be required hence the H2 rollout. The first order will likely be significant for Opti imo due to their scale. Also take for example the recent surprise news via proactive interview of an American firm ordering LPLDL to trial before launch. This would suggest they are pretty sizeable and maybe have gone for a soft launch to test demand before putting in a larger order and signing a contract. An early order from the US whatever the case is a very very good sign.Some companies will be faster to market with Optis IP like HLH Biopharma who replaced an existing cholesterol reducing ingredient 'AB LIFE' made by AB-Biotics. AB-Biotics is an established Spanish pharmaceutical probiotic competitor that currently sells £6m+ annually of this inferior ingredient. Clearly represents what the industry thinks of the product and shows revenue potential for LPLDL.There is no revenue guidance yet because these companies have no clue how much they are going to sell before going out and actually doing it. SOH will also be trying to keep these companies within a particular timeframe from signing a contract to fully readying the product for launch, however they will not launch until they're completely ready seeing as they are taking all the risk so determine Y1 Y2 revenue accurately would be impossible. I'm glad Opti have not guessed and shows the experience and confidence of management. SOH must have investors nagging him for this daily. Getting something as important as revenue guidance wrong would be detrimental to the company going forward. Currently the share price is in limbo because of this so definitely take advantage if you have spare change. Low 60s is an absolute no brainer.Opti are changing an industry through their technology like the digital camera did to the Kodak - these pharmaceutical grade products are not available yet and won't be for maybe 4+ years as virtually all of Optis competitors have gone the costly, risky and time consuming Pharma route. Opti are years ahead of the microbiome curve due to their chosen route to market and the lower regulatory hurdles. When these Pharma groups start rolling out these products and more of these types of microbiome products become available the Optibiotic platform should become an extremely well sought after technology considering its enhancing abilities. Big pharma will be wanting their products to be as good as they possibly can be opening up an absolutely huge opportunity for Opti. LTH will hit the jackpot with this platform. Opti are becoming viewed due to their research as one of the leaders in an emerging market forecasted to be one of the fastest growth opportunities. Winning awards in yearly succession at global industry events such as Probiota tells its own story. Only an idiot would have you believe the corporates are not interested. For industry to value sweetbiotix at £20m already before having any type of commercial deal or product selling tells you a lot about the IP and the discussions that are taking place. That's almost half the current market cap and sweetbiotix though huge is still just 1 of 3 opportunities within the Optibiotic division alone.Opti will not necessarily be a guaranteed success however it's diversity in to so many major markets and the immense progress on all fronts means it's now highly likely. Opti have over £1m in cash, £95k cash burn per month, growing revenues from multiple partners and £4/5m of Skin holding which could be realised anytime after the April lock in. Very comfortable position to be in financially meaning Opti can play hardball or even walk away from the large players if any exclusivity deal does not maximise the potential value of the IP yet- the Opti bod know exactly what they're doing and the potential value of this IP if fully exploited. Skin, whilst offering a significant opportunity for Opti has mitigated any need to dilute via placement. SOH does not seem to be the kind of chap to lie to the market or lose track on the financials considering how tightly the ship has been run to date. Quite honestly I've never come across a company with such a strict control over finances.Even though they do not excite the market I can not stress how important these deals with HLH, Galenicum, Pharmabiota etc are to Opti as it will lead Opti to gain a far better exclusivity deal from a corporate then if it had no other revenues and relied heavily on a deal from a corporate. Corporate will want some type of exclusivity usually over a territory so clearly the amount needs to be significant to Opti. Likely this is where the waiting for the 'right deal' quote from SOH takes its meaning. By proving commercial viability through other outlets it presents little risk to the corporates hence increasing Optis stance in negotiations. The bigger the risk for them clearly the less they will offer Opti to take it on. Let's not forget they are making a huge commitment to rollout Optis IP. Opti just sits back and waits for the money from the license. It's as profitable a model you will come across but takes time to build. These smaller early deals will ultimately allow Opti to demand a larger MOQ or a Royalty payment for exclusivity over a particular territory/continent than if it was going solely for a deal with the corporates from the start. It's how to quickly increase the value of the IP within the industry very early on.On balance there is only one thing that concerns me about Opti at the moment and that is the time it takes to start building the revenues following signing these deals before the cash gets low and the market starts to get nervous. Though as discussed Skinbio shares of £5m mitigates this risk and Optis main outgoings are R&D based therefore they can cut these down if absolute necessary. Revenues should be building with the boss forecasting profit by YE 2018 so clearly revenues are on their way in size from somewhere. Of course I would like more deals to be signed but with such an unusual low cost model it's not surprising the time it takes even though the technology is brilliant. Holding out for the right deal will ultimately create a solid sustainable business for LTH.I've increased my holding by 10% the past month. The model is what is causing the slow appearance of commercialisation though anyone paying attention will realise IP is the most valuable thing Opti have and is what the business is built upon. Selling it cheaply early on would be the most stupid thing they could do. Therefore holding out building the smaller deals first is actually how you maximise and 'wait for the right deal'. When these exclusivity deals come through they'll be higher due to the methods used to get that better deal. When all this good news comes together in terms of potential ££ the market will be scrambling for the stock I have no doubt that will happen hence why I'm still here following my most successful investment decision to date. Unless you need to sell you should be rubbing your hands at these prices. Once all the deals really start flowing and the money is shown revenues should grow in excess of 100% per year, more when these exclusivity deals get signed off. Risky - from sunny Australia
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