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DVRG Deepverge Plc

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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Deepverge Plc LSE:DVRG London Ordinary Share GB00BMGWZY29 ORD 0.1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 0.15 0.00 00:00:00
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Misc Personal Services, Nec 9.3M -2.68M -0.0125 -0.12 322.74k
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
- O 0 0.15 GBX

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Posted at 01/12/2023 08:20 by Deepverge Daily Update
Deepverge Plc is listed in the Misc Personal Services, Nec sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker DVRG. The last closing price for Deepverge was 0.15p.
Deepverge currently has 215,156,378 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Deepverge is £322,735.
Deepverge has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of -0.12.
This morning DVRG shares opened at -
Posted at 22/8/2023 07:53 by cocker
Has anyone else seen the news that dvrg will delist this Thursday?
Posted at 20/4/2023 07:54 by owenski
Anyone remember that cretin derek8454, Mr blah blah blah

First posted on 24 Oct. 20, share price 30p
Last posted on 15 Nov. 22, share price 2p

His one and only share, ouch.

No more blah blah blah then
Posted at 19/4/2023 12:34 by onehanded
I see the latest RNS say DVRG have enough money at present, so we will see. Expect being lined up for a takeover at what could be a cheap price. NOT temped to buy here again but watching it play out. Those who took the offer at 2p must be hoping for a buyer..... As for MSYS it fails if DVRG does.
Posted at 02/3/2023 19:11 by thetrotsky
GFG1, You really are a muck raker. Try actually reading the RNS! The Broker Offer was NOT underwritten. The intention was to raise £1m (although, if there was sufficient demand, the offer could have been extended to £2.5m with the express agreement of the company). In the end, after scaling back to give preference to existing shareholders not involved in the £10m Placing and Subscription, an additional £800k was raised bu the Broker Offer i.e in addition to the £10m. TP were not left holding any unsold shares; they were never issued.

As for the £18m of sales in 2022, I have no reason to believe at this juncture, other than your unsubstantiated allegations, that they didn't arise. DVRG's problem wasn't, and never has been, making sales; DVRG's problem has always been that due to its rapid sales growth it had insufficient cash to fund its inventory and trade debtors (this is common problem with high growth companies and is not unique to DVRG).

Given your inability to read and understand quite basic RNS, forgive me for doubting you your financial acumen. As far as I can see, you are now simply driven by malice. I, for one, haven't forgotten your previous ramping posts when you used to be GB's number one fan. Get back in your hole.

PS. The c11.2m Lender Warrants are exercisable at 2p i.e. the warrants necessitate the lenders paying DVRG 2p per new share issued (rasing in the process up to c225k for DVRG). There does not appear to be any time limit placed on the Lender Warrants being exercised. So, exercising the warrants now, let alone selling the acquired shares, whilst the share price remains sub-2p would be non-sensical.

PPS. Likewise the c135.2m Placing Warrants are exercisable at 3p i.e. the warrants necessitate the Placing, Susbcriber and Broker Offer shareholders paying 3p per new share issued (raising in the process up to c£4.1m for DVRG). Furthermore, the Placing Warrants must be exercised on, or before, 15 November 2023 (otherwise the warrants lapse). Exercising the warrants at 3p, let alone then selling the acquired shares, whilst the share price remains sub-2p would be non-sensical.

PPPS. The c50m Broker Warrants and c12.5m Broker Further Warrants are exercisable at 2p and 3p respectively (raising in the process up to c£1m and c400k respectively for DVRG). Furthermore, the Broker Warrants and Broker Further Warrants must be exercised on, or before, 15 November 2025 and 15 May 2024 respectively (otherwise the warrants lapse). Again, exercising the warrants at 2p/3p, let alone then selling the acquired shares, whilst the share price remains sub-2p would be non-sensical.

PPPS. All warrants are a right to buy a given amount of shares at a given price at a future date (which may, or may not, be fixed). Unless the warrants are £nil paid (which the above warrants are not), they are not a licence to make "free" money as you imply. So stop spouting your financially uneducated gibberish.
Posted at 02/2/2023 09:26 by onehanded
Bought back very early in this early am from news re-skin club being up for sale. Still a complete farce from what GB was doing BUT parts are worth more than share price now. Expect those with shares at 2p plus 3p warrants will need share price rise to that price. ONLY here for a return from what was lost last time that I held, a while back. No ramping, just a punt on news.....
Posted at 26/1/2023 14:11 by onehanded
DO NOT own any shares and though lost some money when it fell from 10p to 3p very quickly, over the previous years from selling when in profit and buying back at lower share price it worked for a good long time, though finally got done by GB and his team at the end. Was bored and contacted a old school fiend who works on the Irish Times to see if he had any info on DVRG. 2 weeks later he has found out a few interesting points. Skin division including Labskin / skin trust club could be going up for sale, may be USA interest. He could get nothing on Modern water, but staff were busy involved with countries outside UK, but look like any contracts has run dry in the UK!

Will I buy - NO - bet any break up sale goes into the present management pockets, best any poor suffering holders is the whole business gets sold rather than broken up, BUT can't see anything above 3.2p (is reason for that figure). Would need to see a massive contract with actual proven revenue OR any proven bids for the company and that would involve RNS of investor buying a large % of the shares to even think of getting back in. If I was a betting man I would say a consortium led by the crook GB and TP to buy it all. We will see.....

The whole story just shows never as part of a stable portfolio put more than 15% into 1 company, and don't keep averaging down on big falls chasing the loss.
Posted at 10/11/2022 13:35 by sweet karolina2

There are 2 reasons why I say just look at the cash flow.

The first is as stated, ie it tells you when the company is likely to run out of money. The impact of DVRG running out of money can be seen very clearly now in the share price graph it was foreseeable much earlier before the share price crashed. DVRG will run out of money again and be looking to raise about this time next year - probably could make it to after Christmas, but it would be running on the smell and that is not a good position to be trying to raise money against.

The second is that unless they are lying about the money in the bank (some total frauds have done this) the figures can't lie to you. There are legitimate ways to fudge revenue and profit and many less than legitimate ways to do it too. Without some forensic accounting it is impossible to know whether the fudging is legitimate or not. It would only be if DVRG were to be revealed as a total fraud that forensic accountants might get called in - they are expensive and when the company is broke there is nobody to pay for them. Quite often the liquidators just want to get their job done as quickly and painlessly as possible, especially when there is not enough going to be realised from the sale of assets to cover their fees. The Official Receiver might do it, but only when it is in the wider public interest because the tax payer will be picking up the tab for the costs of the investigation and any subsequent prosecution.

All that only happens long after shareholders have lost all their money. Creditors might get some of their money back from liquidation, shareholders always get 0p.

The only answer for PIs is to DYOR properly and apply critical analysis and keep on applying it as things change. The first step in critical analysis is to ask how much confidence can I put on this information. Most BBs are completely useless for assisting with critical analysis as they are generally just echo chambers for people who are already predisposed to believe any good news about the company. BBs do have some benefit when there is a balance from people who are predisposed to believe bad things about the company. Whilst individual posts won't be balanced, the balance is achieved by the 2 sides posting. In order to overcome personal bias, the trick is to place more confidence in the things you don't really want to hear and put more effort into disproving them for yourself. Presenting that proof back, rather than just calling the poster who provided it names and ignoring them, should then allow for further useful discussion which may end up with all parties having a better understanding on which to base their own investing decisions. All very idealistic stuff, which makes most BBs just a source of entertainment rather than a useful tool that helps PIs.

DVRG does not smell like a total fraud (eg like WRN) to me (I could be wrong). It is just a relatively poor business proposition, run fairly badly by people who were prepared to do bad things. It is not all that different from most companies at the bottom end of AIM.
Posted at 02/11/2022 10:51 by tradingit
2018SKIN (now DVRG) was not generating any revenues. share price 0.4p pre consolation ( pc.)2022 three AI businesses under the new ticker DVRG delivering revenues of 18M (YoY doubling its revenues) with recurring revenues from around the world inc. top tier blue chip companies as customers. share price 0.2p (pc.)GO FIGURE Tick-tock POP
Posted at 31/10/2022 12:21 by onehanded
Great stuff copper.. just shows what a con man GB is. How he can still be involved in DVRG is undeliverable. Hope to see him go soon. The rumour is that GB he is going to leave DVRG all together and become permeant CEO of MSYS. He will have to boost that share price with more lies and get more for his wife shares he forgot to tell the market who sold DVRG and then bought MSYS.
Posted at 31/10/2022 11:36 by copperwindow93
04 March 2022 gjbrandon:
Just speaking to a couple of City traders and the core comments are that It’s indiscriminate. No stocks are escaping this. Margin calls everywhere not helping. Their final comment was that its a great time to buy.

02 March 2022 gjbrandon:
Likewise I never thought we would see these prices again. Strange world indeed but nothing changed in DeepVerge as we are still growing

02 March 2022 gjbrandon:
There is a strange matter when it comes to risk aversion in large companies. It has to do with risk. A large organisation would rather pay more for a company that is profitable and growing for a long while with sufficient traction to avoid making a mistake and the decision maker being fired for being wrong. It has to do with timing, not price. These companies, as you say, are cash rich, but nobody wants to make a recommendation and get fired later for a mistake.

02 March 2022 gjbrandon:

I do not intend to take that long at all. In fact a small fraction by my calculations

02 March 2022 copperwindow93:
I am absolutely certain when news comes it will rise very sharply! Just a question of when that comes!
I was just joking about the children - it is in their kids ISA so you have about 10 years as far as they are concerned! Hopefully you won’t need that long though

02 March 2022 gjbrandon:
I suspect with news this will turn very quickly and reach its true value, perhaps in the medium (less than 12 months) ensure you have time to spend their inheritance

21 February 2022 gjbrandon:
I understand, seriously I do, how frustrating it is from your side. We are frustrated in what we can say, even knowing what we know.
I have been doing business in China since 2003 and if my use of the phrase "overtime, not overnight" relates to impatient shareholders, when it comes to China, it is about not losing face. This is progressing well. While we have not signed the definitive deal, we are working together with them and getting access to their more inner government decision makers in areas such as defence, utilities, and Ecology departments across all provinces. Some we had already, but we are delivering for them in quality and solutions to their network, as well as they are delivering to us, that actual network.
Because we are unable to have all parties engaged on a regular face to face basis, which would be back and forth we are relying on lower levels of engagement building trust.

21 February 2022 gjbrandon:
I did not exit at 8p.i was owed shares worth 22p (at the time) but instead, rather than diluting the shareholders by 1.2% and cost the Company £256k in tax and national insurance costs in last year's accounts, myself and Camillus agreed to to take cash at the share price it was at 2.5 years ago. By doing so, we gave up nearly £220k between us.

21 February 2022 gjbrandon:
82% of club members who received their test results since the marketplace opened in mid-January.

16 February 2022 gjbrandon:
It's a few weeks to end of national trials, skin Trust Club is flying and launch of Modern Water Mobile Services are being readied to roll out. Its all there, just patience and a lousy market

28 January 2022 gjbrandon:
I have been hauled over the coals by Nomad and referred by AIM to address social media comments with absolute caution. Hence my somewhat lesser commentary in social media recently. In the absence of guidance from the Company, AIM consider market expectations from broker notes as an indication of what the company expects to achieve. If those estimates are far out of bounds of what the company considers reasonable, the company is obliged to issue a statement with guidance. The share price in the broker notes are based on discount cash flows from that growth. Currently the broker note suggests 94p. That is not something we have any control over, but based on their model and expectations from the numbers in the broker note.

copperwindow93 to gjbrandon 28 Jan 2022 15:05:08
You are probably not allowed to say, but given only the data that is in the public domain, what would you think the right price should be for DVRG? (Obviously not for public sharing as always).

28 January 2022 gjbrandon:
We already are working with them at team level. My input is to be involved in more meetings at management level as the day to day part is working fine.

28 January 2022 copperwindow93:
Do you have enough time though to take over the reigns at MSYS as well as give full attention to DVRG? I hope so as I am horrifically in the red here

28 January 2022 gjbrandon:
The major investors are fine. Nobody is pleased with the share price. Nothing can be done if the market is also in the toilet, but it has no effect whatsoever on the day to day running of the company

28 January 2022 copperwindow93:

I can only assume as we hit the teens that those involved in the placing are asking some fairly awkward questions currently? Or are they getting more info than the standard shareholders? It is all very demoralising!

27 January 2022 gjbrandon:
Neither did I and many others.

27 January 2022 copperwindow93:

I kept on buying on the way down but ran out of money! Never thought we would see these levels again I have to say but hey ho

27 January 2022 gjbrandon:
Amazing to me is that you have some private investors complain when a placing gets done 11% below the market price at 30p, saying it went to "the chosen few". Yet when the share price goes below, they don't buy. Stock market is the only place where nobody buys in a sale :-)

27 January 2022 copperwindow93:
I think the problem is that nobody realises that anything is happening in China. I assume that everyone thinks all operations there are on hold until the deal is signed. Any significant deals would have to be RNS’ed (10%) and as none have be 2 and 2 are put together.

25 January 2022 gjbrandon:
I have stopped thinking about comments of bulletin board commentators as they either have a trading agenda, do little or no research or my favourite trolls. I have stated on video and in social media that no single government, partner, collaborator, distributor or manufacturer will cause any delay in our growth this year. We are on track and would say so in an RNS otherwise. There is no correlation between what is happening in DVRG and the share price.

25 January 2022 gjbrandon:
We are in China and the issue of getting there for us is not a barrier. In fact all the deals we are doing now in China is with CR collaboration. The issue is one where getting everyone from Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Beijing and Shanghai in one place that we can be involved in is where the barrier lies.
We have had multiple zoom meetings with all parties but face to face is key to finalising. It is not having any effect on our production for our EU mass production lines being buot right now, nor is it having any effect on distribution in China through our Shanghai offices.

03 January 2022 gjbrandon:
Looking forward to 2022 as so much of the effort and investment has gone into preparation to achieve another triple digit percentage growth year ahead. Based on Broker note expectations, the P/E now is running at less than 9 for 2022. Bonkers
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