Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[rafboy] 26/4/2017 13:41

Seems to me elrico has always been up front and willing to share info for all our benefit. I for one am grateful.

[spike_1] 26/4/2017 13:27

Re elrico: last night 1 on 1 from SOH when asked by me to comment, I don't give him non public material BUT if he asks me to check a statement(before posting)I will tell him when he is actually wrong on something. I don't believe elrico goes on 'fishing expeditions' to elicit info' (but I don't know that as a fact).

Best wishes - Mike

[riskybusiness1] 26/4/2017 13:27

Money tree go and do some reading on the microbiome and then come back...you are clearly expressing an uneducated view

[branboyd1] 26/4/2017 13:22

No point arguing with you dear boy, you clearly know everything. I personally find you a very slippery character.

[elrico] 26/4/2017 13:08

Bran - Please don't presume to know my investment strategy or how I fair. You make assumptions and dress them as facts. I bought 3 tranches of OPTI shares, first and largest at 15p, second 25p and the 3rd also south of 60p. How is your mathes? If the gospels are not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, then all pretenders can be dismissed.

By the way...here is another FACTOID for you! The P&G "rumour" emanated from a company source, which apparently was supposed to be "off the record." So much for off the record, eh! The key difference between you and me, Bran, I don't deal with rumours, I check them and their source and at least try to add clarity for the benefit of all. I don't stroll along to a forum spout all manner of nonsense hoping I get attention....ring a blell dear boy!!

[luminoso] 26/4/2017 13:01

exactly, Spike, which is why I am sanguine.

[spike_1] 26/4/2017 12:56

Quickie - am busy:
With the above arguments about no sudden unexpected re-rating and sudden rise rather than incremental based on gradually growing sales, SOH said to 2 of us that that is not necessarily true, although logical, it doesn't take into account the possibility of - say - 'Kelloggs' announcing they were bringing out product/s using our non-fattening sweetener. Absolutely no idea if this is actually a possibility or SOH 'spin'. He also said later that if he got the right price £($?)40m to sell one strain he may well take it.

Best wishes - Mike

[deeppockets] 26/4/2017 12:55

SOH gave an example last night that the big MN can takes ages to assess the business, then get their lawyers to see if they can break the patent and do it themselves, then do their own studies, leading to 2-3 year timescale to get a product to market. Doing deals with slightly smaller players can happen quicker, bringing them to the attention of the big players. When he sold his business to 3M, he had to buy out a distributor who he had given a licence to. He said you could argue he lost a few million doing that, but if he hadn't given the licence in the first place 3M might never have heard about his business. One company took 12m to even send back the NDA! Last night was the first time he seemed reluctant to give out news that you could see he was dying to so I think there is news imminent, and Per was very confident.

[moneytree1] 26/4/2017 12:48

no its not.

the market is flooded with this type of science.

[branboyd1] 26/4/2017 12:47

Laughable really. You think share price stagnation will allow you a better top up opportunity? That is your speciality. But as I've said before, it is only a top up if the share price goes up. Your credibility is shot if you think this is how to make money. And as for the "just a blogger" who you previously held in such high esteem that you take his rumours as gospel. Proctor & Gamble ring a bell? Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it dear boy.

[elrico] 26/4/2017 12:43

Bran - like I said to you before...don't concern yourself with my investments. IF we stagnate it will be to MY BENEFIT...I'll let you work that out! The markets are littered with "better opportunities" that don't go according to plan. I know well seasoned investors thought just like you; one bought CTAG and the other AVN. There are no dead-certs here, just wishful thinking and a lot hindsight, your speciality.

[luminoso] 26/4/2017 12:43

I'll add my thanks to those feeding back from the presentation. I am also sanguine with my investment here. It sounds like SOH is very skilfully steering a course with patents, spin offs, deals etc to give us all the very best chance of a very big pay day, one day in the future. Looking forward to the news from the Swiss show soon.
Meanwhile, just one gripe - apparently SOH is needing to work out the best way to issue SBTX shares to us, with regard to the legal side of things, etc. Why did he not work this out before he stated that we would get something ? I think that confusion explains a lot of the selling ( as well as maybe YSF ).
However, the share price action over a few weeks is just noise in the long term and those, who carp on about it all the time, are either short termers or aspergic IMO.
I can forgive SOH for causing the confusion over the SBTX shares, as I am confident he is taking the company in the right direction over the long term.

[riskybusiness1] 26/4/2017 12:42

'Old science' now that is an embarrassingly stupid comment

[branboyd1] 26/4/2017 12:35

If you are correct Elrico then expect another 12 months of share price stagnation. And those who cannot afford to invest their money without much of a return will rightly sell in due course. That is not a reflection on Opti but basic common sense. Why remain invested here if there are better opportunities? Griffin seems to get it.

[lukead] 26/4/2017 12:35

too late , silver tongue, he has sold a good wadge, most likely in 10K batches,

[parob] 26/4/2017 12:31

We're currently at the start of the commercialisation stage, but in the not too distant future we should start to see revenues building (also from iii article). A number of commercial deals are expected to be completed in the coming three months or so to further build up revenues, we're told.

[diamond fibre] 26/4/2017 12:28

Well said Elreco, Griffin I would wait till mid May to sell if I was you. DIAMOND

[elrico] 26/4/2017 12:23

For me there are two glaring issues; 1. Some OPTI shareholders now realising they're not actually long term investors, but speculative traders. They dress it up however they want, but the fact remains they simply don't understand the mechanics of a small start-up company going through R&D to commercial stage and what this entails. 2. OPTI being held to ransom for the hype of a blogger and OPTI not delivering of this hype. Quite ironic, but there you have it. That is not just my opinion either.

Someuwin hit the nail on the head when he highlighted the following iii extract; "The next stage is the critical phase," he added. "Probably not the next 12 months, but the next 24-36 months is where we get our products on the market, get established and start building revenues from those products."

Let us assume P&G are the US partners and they have stateside rights. Doe's anyone seriously think sales are going to go from zero to blockbuster within a few weeks? Come on, be reasonable. There will not be massive orders but a progressive increase in sales which in the first year will be interspersed with peaks and troughs depending on the reporting periods for partners supply or royalty payments and partner performance. Typically about 10 partners 3-4 do really well, 3 middling and the remainder need changing. This mean that typically you won’t get a reasoned view of sales potential until you have at least 12-18 months sales. An example of this is the GoFigure sales and then Tata, both will contribute to revenues in different periods and cycles of start up phases. Common sense needs to be applied here.

[trotterstrading] 26/4/2017 12:11

Talking tripe at it again. Deluded.Example of incredible returns1. OPTI share price 10x since listing2. SKIN 250k investment +400k spend. Now worth £6m - 10x return in 12 months!!Plenty more to come for those with patience

[judijudi] 26/4/2017 11:55

Well I'm sanguine
I'm invested here and am not selling one share
A low share price is a discomfort and nobody likes to see it, a rising/high price is a comfort and everybody likes to see it
Our time will come

[lukead] 26/4/2017 11:34

This morning now, cooking and talking about probiotics, boosting what she is cooking with the contents of a capsule

[f3rdinand] 26/4/2017 11:33

I still hold a significant number of shares, but am reassessing whether I should be so overweight in OPTI. Call it fickle or a mistake making my purchase next week...doesn't bother me tbh.