Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[1bokke] 11/1/2017 18:25

Michaelmouse I thought you were bored of opti? For someone who has no vested interest here( other than a malicious one) you seem to be spending a lot of time on this? Care to tell us why?

[neftanikoff] 11/1/2017 18:22

I probably did not word my post well enough, but what i wanted to convey was that in your view the present valuations for both companies are wrong, not that the companies themselves are rubbish.
Let us be clear, you perceive both companies's current valuation to be rubbish.
Then by your criteria, DDDD is presumably valued at 12 to 14 times more rubbish than opti. Do you think there are other companies like these 2?i did refer in my last sentence of my earlier post? I guess you think all such companies (there must be similar) are overpriced.
I take it that you would not invest in a company which is not on a low p/e (relative to the particular sector) and making profits and paying dividends and a first class management.
You may be a cautious investor but it does not appear to have saved you from investing into dodgy companies, where fraud has taken place.

[elrico] 11/1/2017 18:00

So michaelmouse, who do you blame for the two frauds you invested in and the other that uses smoke and mirrors for growth? By the way, share price had them all as stonking sells and they have been bang on as they usually are when it comes to the bear calls. Pretty close to 100% correct call when it comes to their bear calls, but NOT so note with buy tips, but who is!

[michaelmouse] 11/1/2017 17:16

Organisations like Shareprophets play some of you clowns like a fiddle. They're taking the p*ss out of you. Harsh I know, but FFS wake up from your torpor!!!!!

[michaelmouse] 11/1/2017 17:00

Here's a bit more comedy gold for you all:-

Biggest loser today? I'll tell ya. Union Jack Oil. Guess what? Just googled it. Any ideas who might have tipped this one as a buy? LOL.



"The point is that sentiment is so grim that it could snap at any time. Our share tip of the month is thus Union Jack Oil (UJO) at a 0.19p offer and at up to 0.21p with a target to sell of closer to 0.3p."

Never reached anywhere near 0.3p and has dropped 25% after news released at 4pm today. It will tank even further tomorrow.

I swear you couldn't make this up. I only ever do a brief look at the days losers and you can almost guarantee that Sharelosses will have tipped it.

[michaelmouse] 11/1/2017 16:50

Neftanikoff - I'm not saying either business is a load of rubbish. That would be highly disrespectful to both. I wish both businesses good fortune. That doesn't make them good value at their current share prices though. They are both high risk. To pretend they are dead certs would be dishonest. They are speculations i.e. a gamble. If I'd multi-bagged from the listing, I'd say ta very much and now I'll find something far less speculative. Both companies might do very well eventually, but that's already more than baked in to the share prices.

[neftanikoff] 11/1/2017 16:43

indeed, i could even be bold and ask you if you are a holder of opti and if so did you acquire your shares by way of a legacy. I am quite suspicious of new people who come on here and this is their first post on advfn.

[neftanikoff] 11/1/2017 16:38

Perhaps you can answer the question

re, the nearest to opti (valued at £50M) that SOH had often cited is 4D Pharma (DDDD) on aim and valued at £479M with shall we estimate about £70M of cash and making losses and will continue to do so for a number of years. OK this company is going the pharma route, but this way entails lots more hurdles to get through so more complicated, opti, no matter what you say, will be generating revenues and profits, quite possibly sometime this year, although you will contest this.
But basically are you saying that if opti is rubbish because it's value does not reflect current revenue/profits, then DDDD is also a load of rubbish and should be valued at about cash levels of about £70M. And i am sure that DDDD and opti are not the only shares that are valued on perceived business probabilities.

[michaelmouse] 11/1/2017 16:15

Take your money and run.............

[1bokke] 11/1/2017 16:07

Adam check pglancy posts and all will become clear.

[adamb68] 11/1/2017 15:54

Just what neff said.

[bobdown2] 11/1/2017 15:54

And your point is ?

[elrico] 11/1/2017 15:45

Missing what? You unsure what warrants are? why they were at 8p or option to buy them now? It's all standard stuff, but like anything, you either know the answer or you don't....it's why I won't go on the chase ;-)

[adamb68] 11/1/2017 15:16

Thanks for the reply, that's a relief!Not sure if I'm missing something here though??

[elrico] 11/1/2017 14:47

Neft - because he will expose his lies and deceit. His sole purpose is to trash TW related longs and posters like me that shorted a couple of michaelmouse related frauds. Michalemouse clear has mental issues and holds a grudge against TW or anyone agreeing with TW.

[neftanikoff] 11/1/2017 14:38

yes Elrico, but why not answer the question

adamB68, a member since Dec 2016, warning sign, just saying lol

[elrico] 11/1/2017 14:23

Neft - I went one better, I asked michaelmouse how he came to invest and average down twice in AVN (a company that also admitted to committing fraud) and offer an example he used in his valuation prior to investing AVN and use it against OPTI. Guess what...he refused to reply. He used the filter excuse, so accrillium (RIP) posted my request, several times over several weeks, again, he refused.

I wouldn't concern yourself with his views, I only engaged because I found his errors or lies amusing and easy to pull apart. Nobody takes him seriously, since he set up his thread and his errors have been pointed out he has lost quite a few followers.

[john henry] 11/1/2017 14:03

Yes I do but I'm not at present Someuwin. The narrowing decending wedge and spread isn't worth it for me.I also only trade long on Opti as I am fully aware that block buster news could materialise at some point, I certainly wouldn't wish to be on the wrong side of that trade.

[someuwin] 11/1/2017 13:56

"john henry
28 Oct '16 - 13:28 - 16943 of 16943

JJ I hold hundred of thousands of shares. It's not possible to trade that holding.( investment) however I do trade 20-30k when the opportunity arises."

[john henry] 11/1/2017 13:54

Just an opinion and observation Someuwin.

[neftanikoff] 11/1/2017 13:52

Now that guy on the other opti thread goes banging on about opti valued at £50M and no revenues and profits years away and so it's actually worth less than £3m

Can anyone holder better than me explain to him why opti is valued at £50m. I mean, it can not be the only company on the London Stock Market to be valued on potential and expectations.

DDDD, for example is valued at £479M and is the nearest equivalent to opti, albeit going the Pharma route where actually PROFITS/REVENUES must be a lot further off than they are with opti.

[someuwin] 11/1/2017 13:52

The only 'trader' trying to 'swing this around' is you JH.

[john henry] 11/1/2017 13:39

Parob, until the company produce commercial / revenue news. No market interest. Just a matter of being patient until said news arrives, meanwhile traders are just swinging this around within the downtrend.The recent GoFigure news puts a 1 million pound market cap on THWLC. Which goes to show there is still a great deal of faith money in the share price