Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Octagonal LSE:OCT London Ordinary Share GB00BWWCHQ23 ORD 0.05P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 1.95p 1.80p 2.10p 1.95p 1.95p 1.95p 950,000 08:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Electronic & Electrical Equipment 6.5 1.5 0.2 8.5 11.09

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
18/11/2018
09:55
Well this BB is a disgrace. Filtered.
topvest
16/11/2018
14:00
650k at 1.72p Wish we would guy buy at that price like the mm has mm wants 1.944p...some difference
dave4545
15/11/2018
21:37
Wow 1887 post Tetchy, Tetchy Who stood on your big bunion toe.
29palms
15/11/2018
12:31
Well rexi - seems Mr market is disagreeing with you and has been for quite some time. Now help me out. Do I file this one under: 1, This time next year 2, You been sold a pup son IOTS
swiss paul
14/11/2018
18:51
29Palms,This company is extremely undervalued in anyone's language but is it necessary to double post all of your thoughts on the LSE and advfn? The share price will come good when the market is ready and posts on here won't make the blindest bit of difference. Aim shares have a tendency of getting overly battered then going up rapidly out of nowhere for very little reason both sides.
reximill
14/11/2018
12:26
market is dire If you stock is not getting spiked by the mm's it's hitting new 6 months lows brutal atm
dave4545
14/11/2018
12:26
90k sale and share price drops 2.5%!! Crazy
29palms
14/11/2018
12:21
Plus no interim dividend despite the big cash pile. There are reasons why the share price is virtually at its year lows. Question is do the management care about shareholder value and want to do something about it?
ochs
14/11/2018
08:31
Not so crazy when directors have a secret agreement to pocket all interest income and spend the cash balance on wine, women and beer instead of being more generous with the shareholders!
a1samu
13/11/2018
19:05
OCT website updated to now include latest (GIS) Operating Income graph. http://octagonalplc.com/revenue-earnings-data/ Easier on the eye. Mcap of £11.4m at COB with net assets of £9.2m & cash balance of £5.72m along with todays mark down of 7% on 500k shares traded, IMHO is just totally crazy. As always DYOR
29palms
11/11/2018
13:03
I would expect £5k or so and rising. Poor disclosures, and inconsistent between GIS and the Group accounts, but there is a chance it is included in revenue albeit the amount is not disclosed. Revenue recognition note in Octagonal implies that interest is included, but its not itemised in the revenue analysis note: "REVENUE RECOGNITION The Group’s Revenue includes commission income, corporate advisory fees and other ancillary fees. Revenue is measured at the fair value of the consideration received or receivable. Fees for advisory engagements for which the work is substantially complete or which are at a stage where work for which separate payment is due is substantially complete, and which will become due but are not yet invoiced are recorded on a right to consideration basis. Where such fees are contingent on the outcome of a transaction they are only accounted for after the transaction has completed. Management fees and interest are credited to income in the period in which they relate." Just to be clear interest on customer deposits (if there is any) should go through the revenue line. Interest receivable on your own cash balance (the point of debate) should go through interest receivable in the P&L below operating profit (this is disclosed as £nil).
topvest
11/11/2018
13:01
Also in fairness to Oct there is a difference btwn savings rates available on the high street to consumers and those offered as commercial rates to companies. I had this issue when previously working for a financial services companies, banks just weren't interested in our cash and if they were prepared to take it, they offered very low rates of interest - although even those were a little above zero ;) Better to have £15k to £20k a year coming in than not!
ochs
11/11/2018
10:23
Found a couple of companies with £5 million'ish in the bank and they are earning £15,000 - £20,000 a year in interest. I guess if the funds are spread across a number of accounts it is not unrealistic to expect them to earn 0....
elsa7878
10/11/2018
17:46
topvest You used to do the same scare tactics in Ashley House ASH and I'm pretty sure you bought in afterwards from memory.
dave4545
10/11/2018
17:41
I gave you 15 bearish points a few posts back! Of course, everything may be 'fine and dandy', but I would be careful if I were invested here.
topvest
10/11/2018
17:35
29palms... so you don't have an opinion about the cash? For example would you not have liked a small interim divi? I've been a holder for about 4 years now (so very loyal) and made some money buying below 1p, but at this stage as a highly profitable company they could have a progressive divi and would still have plenty of cash to splash on SynerGIS and HK office.
ochs
10/11/2018
17:00
Personally I think it's desperate that the only bear point some people can find is they apparently are not earning interest on their cash. Cash seems to be rising rapidly and you are worried they cannot make £100k interest on it. Soon cash will be over £6 mil, profits perhaps £2 mil and market cap is under £13 mil
dave4545
10/11/2018
16:27
When you both seem so unhappy with OCT what are you doing here!!! 2 pessimists now. Feel free to pose your questions straight to the company on +44 (0)20 7048 9400
29palms
10/11/2018
16:05
I suppose there are two points: 1. Shouldn't they be earning interest on £5m of cash? The answer is, probably, yes. 2. Without any interest receivable, it kind of begs the question of whether they actually have the cash in the first place. I bet PatVal shareholders (Luke Johnson in particular) wished they had asked the same question. Of course, the audited accounts say they have the cash, so more a point of 1, than 2 but does trigger a question someone should be asking of the Board as it doesn't really stack up for a company that fancies its luck as a bond investor using retail investors cash!
topvest
10/11/2018
15:32
29palms you are getting dull now... do you have an opinion on topvest's valid point? Are you happy that the company is getting nil interest on your substantial cash pile? As an OCT shareholder I personally feel they should be doing better with my money.
ochs
10/11/2018
11:05
Meaning of the word "Pessimist" A person who habitually sees or anticipates the worst or is disposed to be gloomy.
29palms
10/11/2018
07:15
29palms. I'm an optimist actually with over 300 shareholdings. I'm just a pessimist when it comes to poor stewards of shareholders money...i.e. you can't do a good deal with a bad person etc. Anyway, I don't think anyone has successfully argued why they can't record >£1 of interest receivable.
topvest
10/11/2018
00:09
That is a matter of opinion Ver I think ZOO is massively overvalued and you think it's not That's the stock market for you. I just got a 5% dividend payout from this company that makes millions and has half it's valuation in cash. You stick with Zoo then
dave4545
10/11/2018
00:00
With reference to post 1865 Meaning of the word "Pessimist" A person who habitually sees or anticipates the worst or is disposed to be gloomy.
29palms
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