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NG. National Grid Plc

1,005.00
-122.50 (-10.86%)
23 May 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
National Grid Plc LSE:NG. London Ordinary Share GB00BDR05C01 ORD 12 204/473P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -122.50 -10.86% 1,005.00 1,000.50 1,001.50 1,060.00 989.20 1,060.00 59,079,381 16:35:02
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Combination Utilities, Nec 24.25B 7.8B 2.1140 4.74 36.94B
National Grid Plc is listed in the Combination Utilities sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker NG.. The last closing price for National Grid was 1,127.50p. Over the last year, National Grid shares have traded in a share price range of 918.60p to 1,145.50p.

National Grid currently has 3,688,191,645 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of National Grid is £36.94 billion. National Grid has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 4.74.

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
19/2/2024
13:12
Yes, the UK exports electricity in summer (surplus from solar and low heating demand) and imports in winter (minimal solar and high heating).
viscount1
19/2/2024
12:55
marktime

are you sure you are not a politician as your reply is just like one,covering good agriculture fields with solar panels is not good and the wind farms production of electricity is so infrequent as if you look at the numbers of electricity produced by these you will see we need to cover the whole of uk to supply enough even when the wind is blowing.

the answer is to store electricity but that requires massive units to do this and the cost enormous,who wants to be near a wind farm,the noise is irritating beyond belief.

no the true way to produce power is by nuclear and the idea of regional power stations is the answer where they will not have to transmit over huge areas needing massive pylons to take it from the sea to homes.ng has not got the money to do this any way as the cost is prohibitive,there is a better way than wind..

lippy4
19/2/2024
12:40
lippy really! Have you been looking the other way while all the massive cheap renewables programmes were announced, the planned expansion in offshore wind generation capacity and the ongoing addition of onshore solar and wind?

Additional future programmes will likely be at higher prices, but those now in the pipeline and on their way to being delivered in the next 5 years were secured very cheaply. Almost too cheap, some have been cancelled because they aren't viable.

Population growth is not the problem not even with the rise of EVs, total demand in the UK has been destroyed steadily through domestic efficiencies and the decline of industry. We have even flattened the peak demand problem through flexible demand and supply measures.

We do increasingly import at times of high demand, we also export. It makes me uncomfortable too, it is no substitute for our own resilient generation like nuclear, but apparently it keeps the cost spikes of wholesale down, and it reduces the amount of gas we need to burn.

The real problem of the future is we will often have so much surplus renewable generation capacity that we can't use or export it all. We don't have the industry to demand it, or the storage capacity to save it for later. Even now so much of the generation is in the wrong place the grid can't handle it, we waste loads of free wind power. NG have been woefully slow to upgrade links from Scotland especially and are partly to blame.

marktime1231
19/2/2024
10:35
i still cannot see where all the electricity generation is going to come from as the population increase is going through the roof,we import so much power now from europe and out own generation is falling behind as power stations are being shut and not replaced..

when ever will green power electricity be cheap,never....

lippy4
19/2/2024
10:17
Maybe H2O will slowly rise and Li, for ev's, wilt. Of course a new battery tech may make batteries a long term product, who knows. H2O interesting because its similar to diesel charging time, can be used on trucks with ICE and ev's and can use the current petrol/diesel real estate and overcome those cables across the pavement and fire risk and the discussed need for 65Kw or whatever goes away as discussed.
colsmith
16/2/2024
14:10
I manage quite well with a 2.2kW charger on just 4h per night. If that's not enough I charge in the day. If you have a 7kW charger, that's over 100 miles - and not many people travel that everyday. With 14 h charging, that's about 350 miles travel each day. There must be very few people who need more than that. Home charging isn't like on a motor way where you need 300kW so it fully charged while you have a coffee ( IF you find an empty slot and if it's working and if your ev can take 300, and if it actually charges at 300kW).As to grid balancing using your ev, well that is nice in theory but probably 20years away. Current v2g chargers are around 7k£ if you want to buy one (after a trial for example).I'd say there are some very basic things money should be spent on to improve EV ownership before thinking of spending zillions giving everyone a 3 phase supply ( very high cost, pretty much zero benefit afaics)
pierre oreilly
16/2/2024
13:43
I don't think a lot of numbers are required when even a single 11kW charger needs three-phase, and in the future you want at least that in order to recharge quickly at high renewable, low load times.
viscount1
16/2/2024
11:58
Are you asking us to choose between being gassed, blown up or electrocuted?

Gas heating and cooking is only a third the price of electric, and will remain so while it remains abundant and while the cost of renewables is so high. Self-sufficiency is a tiny fraction of all properties, and next gen cheaper renewables are still years away. I am delighted to have a gas hob and rare use of a gas fire, even with a solar + battery system installed. And don't get me started on the relative swizz between standing charges, the electric one seems to want to punish folks with a green appetite especially efficient low energy consumers.

The need to switch to three-phase is because we will be demanding faster recharge and discharge at home, for EVs and to help balance grid demand. You can't do it on single-phase at about 100 amps. Incidentally when you have a massive EV battery on the drive with an intelligent hook up you won't need a big domestic battery so much.

marktime1231
16/2/2024
11:50
Could you put some numbers to your thoughts viscount? Words are easy and really mean little - Let's see numbers like the power required, battery size, max power into and out of the battery, and windless periods of 3 weeks say, for example. Why 65kW instead of the current 23kW, quantitatively?
pierre oreilly
16/2/2024
10:52
Well, a future home with some form of powerwall and electric vehicle chargers will take some powering because they will charge during peak renewable generation and then buffer supply during lower generation (or peak demand) periods.

Much better than shipping explosive gases around.

viscount1
16/2/2024
10:13
How much electricity do they think people wll use in the future? Single phase gives about 23kW - that (just) enough for me with a big bunch of storage heaters - and there aren't many with my high usage these days. 3 phase would enable 65ish kW (i assume) - who the hell needs that? I thought the idea of hps is that they use less energy than other forms of heating. To get the same heat as a 28kW gas boiler, you need a 10kW heatpump (according to the latest green theories), and I know of no domestic hp that size (hence why they have to be kept on all the time).

I think the author knows fa about 3 phase - he seems to imply to get it you just put in a bigger fuse (do others think that's what he's implying?).

And again, if homes are projected to need a 65kW supply, where's the electricity coming from when the wind's not blowing on a winter's evening? It teeters atm, fun to see what happens if homes use 3x as much in the future.

pierre oreilly
15/2/2024
19:40
Octopus and National Grid join forces to upgrade homes to three-phase electric as part of heat pump and EV charger rollout
philanderer
15/2/2024
10:10
mark - to ensure some sort of fiscal prudence a rate between 4 and 6% is reasonable. Virtual zero rates over 10 years or so have put the money printing and borrowing on steroids. How to get rid of debt, one way with obvious risk is inflation! It used to be millions, then billions now trillions. But its a push pull - those who get rich on low rates and those who see the need for fiscal prudence perhaps to stop the real fiscal meltdown - who knows.
colsmith
14/2/2024
16:46
It is easy to describe inflation as being "stubborn" at 4.2%, but we know there are further falls to come. Keeping interest rates at 5.25% is perhaps embedding the problem rather than solving it. The base rate is the number folks will look at when pay bargaining and is why wages are still rising at 6%.

The former chief economist Haldane recently observed that the job of the setters is not to wait until high rates push the economy down a hole, it is to understand the way things are going and to adjust before doing unnecessary damage.

Unfortunately Fatboy Bailey is not showing much understanding. A pity there aren't more real world guys like Haldane on the MPC to counter the Ivory Tower academics. Does the Treasury have any opportunity to make substitutes, or expand the group and parachute in half a dozen right minded types?

Edit ... oops just spotted I am wittering away on the NG board sorry to off- topic.

marktime1231
14/2/2024
16:45
i would love that..
lippy4
14/2/2024
16:28
anhar;

Not anti-American by far , hold many US based stock and spend a lot of time in US, but the Hedge Shysters are definitely shorting UK stock more than their own stock. NG is very successful with great potential but that is not reflected in its share price.

Maybe a Qrt divi policy would curb the level of shorting that Yanks carry out on Brit Stocks

utyinv
14/2/2024
11:58
As always Dow up, FTSE down. Dow down, FTSE crashes.

Soooo corrupt!

Corrupt how? Maybe it has more to do with the US having a lot more companies that enjoy greater success than the UK.

In any case the comparison is rather invalid because the Dow has just 30 shares whilst the FTSE has 100. The US market has far more stocks than the UK so a much better comparison with the FTSE is the S&P500.

You'll find that the S&P has way outperformed the FTSE but obviously, unless you are some kind of conspiracy theorist, it is not due to corruption but to the much greater number of highly successful companies in the US.

I really don't get your persistent and baseless anti Americanism and will continue to hold NG. for income whilst more or less ignoring price movements, which I don't believe for a moment have anything to do with some kind of conspiracy. Short term prices nearly all move randomly. Long term they are related to company performance though it's not a precise relationship.

anhar
14/2/2024
09:23
CPIH for Jan 4.2%

So as before, to date we have:
Apr ‘23 : 7.8%
May ‘23 :7.9%
Jun ‘23 : 7.3%
Jul ‘23 : 6.4%
Aug ‘23 : 6.3%
Sep ‘23 : 6.3%
Oct ‘23 : 4.7%
Nov ‘23 : 4.2%
Dec ‘23 : 4.2%
Jan ‘24 : 4.2%

utyinv
13/2/2024
17:06
As always Dow up, FTSE down. Dow down, FTSE crashes.

Soooo corrupt!

utyinv
13/2/2024
11:16
Drops because it's dead money investment between Final Ex dividend dates.
gbh2
12/2/2024
19:02
Concensus from TIPRANKS ( take overall averages from wide range of analysts) Average value £12.0813 (strong buy) and high value £13.30.

Low Value is £11.50 hense consensus vastly oversold🤷

utyinv
12/2/2024
18:57
Dow at record highs and disparity vs FTSE highest ever. DOW powering ahead whilst FTSE is the poor index of the world

Last publication regarding NGG ADR shorts ( US) is 31st Jan where the shorts increased by 38.6% and compared to the last three years has increased by 250%

utyinv
10/2/2024
13:43
Who thinks "Base rates are being discussed as going up at the next move"? That is the opposite of the swap rate predictions.
viscount1
10/2/2024
12:33
Shares fluctuate randomly over the short term in most cases so there are no reasons. Blaming "yanks" is entirely misplaced. In any case, short or long, pros never act from emotional reasons like "hate" as you claim, it's about making money. The only hate I see is yours against the US, dunno why, they are the greatest innovators on Earth and the only reason we can even communicate like this is due to their tech.

Shorting is practised by pros both in the US and UK and involves substantial risk, it's not exclusively American. So you should equally dislike Brit shorters. In my view if they wish to do it, so what? It's part of an open market. If you can't live with that, the obvious answer is to refrain from investing. But if you want to invest in NG. or any share you have to accept market action.

anhar
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