Mony Share Discussion Threads

[isis] 06/11/2013 14:17

I said all along this was being manipulated down by HFT's/Hedgies.

The Alexa traffic has been good - nuff sed.

[costapacket] 06/11/2013 14:14

Wih you on this isis - just have a look at the damage done at QPP, that was painful

[costapacket] 06/11/2013 14:14

With you on this isis - just have a look at the damage done at QPP, that was painful

[isis] 06/11/2013 13:59

The same is said about shorting providing liquidity but I think they both do damage and manipulate the markets.

I remember a Hedge Fund Manager shorting Insurance stocks like L&G a few years ago and he said they were all basically worthless.

Many have risen 5-10 fold since then L&G is a 10 bagger since then and always paid a dividend.

You have to factor this in when you buy stocks these days and often you will see your stock dive for no apparent reason other than for this type of trading.

[costapacket] 06/11/2013 13:48

I remember you mentioning before a couple of weeks ago.

Some great momentum here today - certainly shifted entirely to be upward now

[isis] 06/11/2013 13:14

They say these Algorithm programmes are harmless but they take out stoplosses and confuse and mislead investors - including me!

[isis] 06/11/2013 13:03

People can see the effect that these HFT's have on your shares.

3000 trades today - ridiculous!

Nearly all silly amounts too.

[costapacket] 06/11/2013 12:56

Another very good point - all bodes well!

[isis] 06/11/2013 12:50

Dividend should be upped next figs too.

[costapacket] 06/11/2013 12:32

Agree still a good buy at this level on growth prospects.

Interesting on Teachers, the company would be a relatively inexpensive purchase for them. Good move by Nixon to realise value in the market over time.

[isis] 06/11/2013 12:29

These are still a good buy at this level.

[isis] 06/11/2013 12:20

A US or UK online business or Media Company.

There were approached several years ago by the Canadian Teachers Pension Fund but Nixon told them to sod off.

[costapacket] 06/11/2013 12:16

Thanks Alchemy - Nice first broker upgrade! 245p target price

Isis - I've wondered myself on takeover but by whom - my thoughts were one of US aggregators but that is not based on anything other than a desire by said business to get into the UK

[isis] 06/11/2013 12:04

I can't see these going for less than 300p on a takeover.

Market leader and all that. :-))

[isis] 06/11/2013 11:46

There was a small cautionary note in the last figures which led to the shorters getting on/off board, they said this was to do with Googles algorithms and they were dealing with it.

It looks like all is well - these would make a great takeover target.

[salpara111] 06/11/2013 11:42

I am drooling like Homer Simpson dreaming of Doughnuts!

[alchemy30] 06/11/2013 11:30

1129 GMT [Dow Jones] Moneysupermarket.com Group's (MONY.LN) 3Q IMS includes stronger than expected quarterly revenue growth and very strong guidance for early 4Q revenue growth driven by energy switching, says Credit Suisse. Says it thinks the stock has been unfairly punished since the second-quarter results in July, noting shares have underperformed the European media sector by 25% in the last three months. Says today's announcement is clear evidence that Moneysupermarket's superior long term organic growth has resumed. Says shares trade on a multiple of just 12.6x 2014e P/E, a discount of 30% to European Media, whereas Credit Suisse reckons it should be trading at a 15% premium given the group's superior growth characteristics. Raises its 2013 EBITDA forecast by 5% to GBP 83m and 2013 EPS by 5.4% to 11.3p. Ups target price to 245p from 213p and reiterates an "outperform" rating. The shares rally 18% to 184p.([e-mail]; Twitter: @NinaBains1)

[salpara111] 06/11/2013 11:13

Given the strength so far I suspect that 170 might be a bit optimistic! I fully accept that there may be a pullback but equally given the relative weakness in the share price in the last few months I wouldn't expect any pullback to be significant.

[isis] 06/11/2013 11:10

The HFT trading started soon after Nixon sold 20%.

Some hedgie has borrowed some stock and started trading it.

I hope they got caught out shorting it.

[enfranglais] 06/11/2013 11:01

Sold a bit early at 178.4 & put a 170 buy order in for any dip this pm or tomorrow morning - here's hoping!!
Could well close the gap up to 205, so that is a good bet for a limit sale price - imho!!!!!

[salpara111] 06/11/2013 10:38

I think that the market was beginning to suspect that the growth rate of previous years was going to be unsustainable but with the recent acquisitions they have been able to diversify their earnings stream which de risks the business.
For me the most impressive point was the huge increase in EBIT compared to turnover which means that margins are clearly very strong.
Anyway, I will be holding for at least 200p. I ended up being very overweight on MONY with £30K in total which is twice my usual holding so I might sell half when it gets there.

[funkmasterp12] 06/11/2013 10:17

Fantastic. Well done to those who got in on the dip.

[costapacket] 06/11/2013 10:15

Market loves this news!

[s4ilor] 06/11/2013 09:16

Nice rise £2 here we come

[costapacket] 06/11/2013 08:58

Same here salpara - just nursing a big paper fall on one of my poorer timed purchases elsewhere as its dropped a similar level to the rise here today....

Can't win em all though and as I always say its only a profit (or loss) when its crystalised

Broker notes will be interesting - I'm expecting improved outlook statements in the next few days on the back of these results