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[tradejunkie2] 15/1/2019 10:29

#Brexit GERMAN FOREIGN MINISTER MAAS SAYS IF THE BREXIT DEAL IS REJECTED BY BRITISH PARLIAMENT TODAY THERE COULD BE NEW TALKS WITH EU ...more amendments?

[montyhedge] 15/1/2019 10:26

General election looking odds on.

[bargainbob] 15/1/2019 10:01

PFG getting hammered today.

[ladeside] 15/1/2019 09:25

diku, that's a good point, however from the private sector perspective I can see why people don't take pride in their work or even give a toss about their employer.

Let's face it, many of our recent generations have grown up with the asset stripping mentality where quick profit is the only driver to the employer, as such many have gone through multiple redundancies and have been treated like sh*t, so have come to see that it's a two way street where that's concerned.

[patientcapital] 15/1/2019 09:22

Not all MPs are aligned with their constituents in their views which is a natural flaw with parliamentary democracy. The alternatives are no less imperfect.

[bargainbob] 15/1/2019 09:21

And Sam Fox diku could rival your favourite Kat.

[diku] 15/1/2019 09:14

Yes I remember those days of just couple of TV news channels and the daily newpapers...those were the good old days when people took pride in their work...

[diku] 15/1/2019 09:11

Brexit dealing is bring out MPs true colours...

[ladeside] 15/1/2019 09:10

I suppose most of us here were brought up with a couple of TV news channels and the daily newspapers for our news, we just expected and assumed that what we were being told was the truth, as how could it be anything else if it was on the "News" ??

At the same time we laughed and shook our heads in disbelief at the Russians and their propaganda channel "Pravda", however it's only now that you start to realise that maybe we shouldn't have been so smug about it all............

[mikemichael2] 15/1/2019 09:01

They are your mp's, you voted for them, so whatever happens we voted for it. Is that Democracy ? But what about the lies and deceit along with the fake news to fool us, how do you ever deal with that ?

[bargainbob] 15/1/2019 08:51

Diku , what's your view on events ?

[diku] 15/1/2019 08:40

Watched the live debate until 12.30am this morning...Chancellor was also in the HOC...not sure if it was a PR stunt or if he was due to speak... just waiting for his turn...

[bargainbob] 15/1/2019 08:35

Dreams of being a reborn Thatcher have got us to this stage . The focus I suspect will be to blame May 100 per cent to save the Tories skin.

In a way the same thing happen to Thatcher. Be careful what you wish for.

[xxxxxy] 15/1/2019 08:33

Does Parliament want to deny the people their voice, vote and freedom?

By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JANUARY 15, 2019

Today UK democracy is on trial in Parliament.

The people voted, yet a large number of MPs want to deny them the results of their vote.

Some Remain MPs are too clever by half and too clever for the good of Parliament. They argue that Parliament will take back control, as people wanted, but their idea of Parliament taking back control is to return massive powers to the EU or to prevent us leaving EU control in the first place. What an unpleasant irony! They wish to go to war with the people, and deny them the result of the People’s Vote, cynically misrepresenting that as taking back control.

The large Remain side in Parliament never wanted to debate EU matters before the referendum. They told us they were technical, that the EU had little control over us, and that those of us who wanted to talk about the growing power of the EU were wrong and out of touch with the real issues of the day. Now we have voted to leave they want to talk about nothing other than EU membership. They endlessly repeat the arguments that lost them the referendum and carry on hectoring Eurosceptics and trying to terrify us into changing our minds. It is high time we put this debate behind us and left the EU. If we cannot negotiate a good deal in 2 years 9 months before giving the EU what they want, there would be no chance of negotiating a good deal for the future in 21 months more if we have given away the main bargaining advantages we have through the Withdrawal Agreement.

The people made a decision. They were promised by government and Parliament it would be implemented. Today Parliament should vote down the Withdrawal Agreement, which is the stay under EU control agreement. Parliament should also make clear we must now leave on 29 March. The PM should return to the EU to ensure smooth passage out, as it is in their interest as well as the UK’s. She should also offer free trade agreement talks for as soon as we are out. The UK can trade just fine with the rest of the EU under WTO rules. The government should immediately publish our schedule of tariffs for March 30th, which should be lower than the EU schedule and should include zero tariffs on components needed by UK industry and zero tariffs on food we cannot grow or rear for ourselves.

[bargainbob] 15/1/2019 08:24

Not sure how the markets are taking this so calmly . There no known outcome. Suspect spikes will occur in different directions all day and last a least a week.

[keyno] 15/1/2019 08:12

Rollercoaster? I would have thought downhill all the way would be more a more apt descripton of what is to come for TM. I've never seen a cheese rolling competition but ................ here's hoping.

[bargainbob] 15/1/2019 08:01

Benn amenendment is now withdrawn , it going to be a rollercoaster for May . She is now fully exposed . Benn amendment would have limited the damage to her.

[polar fox] 15/1/2019 07:44

I heard Norman Smith saying this morning, that amendments are being withdrawn so that MPs can have a "clear run" at voting down her deal. Once accomplished, no doubt they will take the bull by the horns, so to speak. This SKY tweet confirms one such withdrawal:

Labour MP Hilary Benn confirms to Sky News he is withdrawing his Commons amendment to reject Prime Minister Theresa May's withdrawal agreement with the EU and a 'no-deal' Brexit

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[bargainbob] 15/1/2019 07:23

Keyno , yeah a very moving true story.

[polar fox] 15/1/2019 07:06

ConHome update, tweaked to include yesterday's changes. All the detail on their website and via Twitter.

Headline:

The number of Tory MPs who oppose the deal stands at 72. Hayes will vote against.

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Hayes is the fossilised Tory, who was knighted last month, just before the original MV. Delicious irony then that he told the HoC yesterday, that he is going to vote against.