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[k38] 19/12/2018 12:24

Useless JC as always has nothing to say..

[stonedyou] 19/12/2018 12:21

This is very bad news.....did Theresa May know this?????

I haven`t heard anybody state this position!!!.....WTF!!





"The Withdrawal Agreement is a very bad deal for the UK. It was drafted by

European Commission lawyers and it appears that the only role of UK “negotiators

was to raise objections to the proposed text in the different drafts."

[stonedyou] 19/12/2018 12:07

Ladeside - That`s because the "No Deal" is the bestest best option....

[stonedyou] 19/12/2018 12:04

You no whot Boys and girls.....I`ve been saying it for ages now, I don`t

think Theresa May has read or as indepth knowledge about the DEAL with

the "HATED EU"




A Dangerously Naïve Prime Minister


These are just a small number of examples which show very clearly that the Prime

Minister either does not understand the Withdrawal Agreement she signed in

Brussels or has become completely delusional. Every claim made by Theresa May and

restated by the Brexit Rebuttal Unit is false.

The PM has been trapped in the Downing Street bunker for over two years. She

hasn’t trusted any of her ministers since she took sole command of the divorce

bill negotiations, bypassing those notionally in charge. One-by-one they are

deserting her. She is now completely isolated with only the devoted Brexit

Rebuttal Unit remaining to serve up delusional propaganda. Yet, she continues to

believe that she is the only person who can save Britain.

Theresa May is the most dangerously naïve Prime Minister ever to govern this

country.

This is a revised version of an article that originally appeared on CommentCentral.

Professor David Blake is at Cass Business School

[stonedyou] 19/12/2018 11:57

I don`t think that Theresa May is an honest person.....



Threat to Security

Sir Richard Dearlove and Major General Julian Thompson argue that “The ‘deal’

surrenders British national security by subordinating UK defence forces to

Military EU control”.

The Brexit Rebuttal Unit’s response is that “The deal provides a flexible

framework for us to work with the EU on foreign policy and defence, including in

times of crisis. It gives us an option to co-operate in these areas. It does not

create an obligation to do so”.

But this not correct either. Based on evidence collected by Veterans for Britain,

Steven Edginton, Director of the Politics UK YouTube channel, has discovered

that: “Theresa May has signed up the UK to EU defence institutions meaning

continued vast annual payments to Brussels, giving away control over major aspects

of defence and foreign policy and all this has the power to undermine NATO”.

[ladeside] 19/12/2018 11:53

Strange that the markets are doing so well today when the latest news is that business leaders believe the threat of a "no deal" has now increased dramatically, which of course they perceive to be terribly detrimental going forward.

[stonedyou] 19/12/2018 11:50

Interesting information ear!!!



The Law and the Backstop

One relates to the backstop: “Once the Protocol [relating to the Irish backstop]

is in force, the UK cannot leave it except by ‘joint’ decision of the UK and the

EU. This gives the EU a right of veto over the UK’s exit. In agreeing to this

clause, the government has caved in over seeking a right to leave”.

This is undoubtedly true and the Prime Minister knows this because her own

Attorney General, Geoffrey Cox, has told her that: “The Protocol would endure

indefinitely” (EU Exit: Legal position on the Withdrawal Agreement and the Legal

Effect of the Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland). The House of Commons EU

Legislation Team also confirms this (The Withdrawal Agreement: Legal and

Governance Aspects).

Yet the Brexit Rebuttal Unit insists that “The Protocol is explicit in the legal

text that it is intended to be a temporary arrangement. The Withdrawal Agreement

establishes a binding obligation on both the UK and the EU to use their best

endeavours to agree a future relationship which would supersede the backstop by

December 2020”.

But as Mr. Howe points out: “an obligation ‘to use best endeavours to agree’ could

[not] be enforced by arbitration. An obligation on two parties to agree with each

other is not justiciable because it is not possible for a judge or arbitrator to

pin the blame on one party or the other if they cannot reach an agreement. The EU

could carry on proposing terms which are unacceptable to the UK and/or spin out

these complicated negotiations for years without it being possible to demonstrate

that the EU is in breach of any obligation of best endeavours”.

To back this up, the Irish Ambassador has made absolutely clear in a letter to The

Spectator on 1 December 2018 that Ireland will always exercise the veto on the

EU’s behalf since it will never accept that “existing technology and

administrative facilitation can remove the need for any border infrastructure or

controls”. Further, at the European Council meeting on 13-14 December 2018, the

EU has also made it clear that it would not change the legally binding Withdrawal

Agreement and would only add non-binding “clarifications”.

[janekane] 19/12/2018 11:48

They seem to have forgot the people who voted then in could be brexit voters
Good luck to them in their next job

[montyhedge] 19/12/2018 11:46

Dollar earners the place to be, GSK my favourite. Not domestic sterling earners.

[stonedyou] 19/12/2018 11:38

BREXIT WIN-WIN: If there's a No Deal we'll RESIGN! Remainers' warning delights Brexiteers






BITTER Tory Remainers Anna Soubry and Nick Boles




BITTER Tory Remainers Anna Soubry and Nick Boles have threatened to bring down their own Government if Prime Minister Theresa May does not get a Brexit deal with the EU.

[freddie01] 19/12/2018 11:33

Santander failed to pass on inheritances


Santander UK has been fined £32.8m by the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) for failing to properly process the accounts of deceased customers.

[k38] 19/12/2018 11:30

Media in France found 'evidence' Russian involvement in the yellow vest protest .....lol

[gotnorolex] 19/12/2018 11:06

After all is said and done, you just can't avoid the Biblical 7 years of feast followed by 7 years of famine!

[grahamite2] 19/12/2018 10:49

thomstar, you've got to be kidding! Project Fear has been in operation without let up from Day 1.

[ladeside] 19/12/2018 10:46

This is starting to get rather ridiculous, do we just have a petition for everything now and do away with politicians and Government in general ??

Maybe not a bad idea in some respects, however letting uneducated illiterate fools decide on the laws of the land and the future of your country is perhaps not the most sensible way to be be going.

Oops, I forgot, it's a bit too late for that..............

[cheshire pete] 19/12/2018 10:31

No deal petition signatures could reach 1/4 million today.

[cheshire pete] 19/12/2018 10:29

Spot on stonedyou….soil is good for spuds in our part of Cheshire, grow them most years. Starting to hoard tins of baked beans too in the shed in case things get really desperate.

[stonedyou] 19/12/2018 09:41

Grow your own, leave the shops alone....

[renewed1] 19/12/2018 09:09

Trumps probably had this explained to him and is why his bottoms getting twitchy about the increase in rates!!

[poikka] 19/12/2018 09:04

"Loyalty came at a cost for Nick Munday - a cost that can be calculated at £1,250 a year.

The 61-year-old had been a home and contents insurance customer with the same provider for 20 years, and was eventually paying £2,000 a year.

One phone call querying the cost reduced the annual premium to £750.

Now the UK's competition watchdog has said millions of unsuspecting customers were being exploited by bad practices by firms."

Well he's a lazy mug. If spuds cost twice as much at one shop than another next door, what do you do?

[gotnorolex] 19/12/2018 08:23

Hans Olaf Henkel MEP (German Liberal) "What Cameron wanted other EU countries want as well, so its time for the 27 to yield"!

[buywell3] 19/12/2018 08:20

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