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[cheshire pete] 29/11/2018 10:11

Expect daily onslaught of this rubbish right through to the vote. Carefully orchestrated and choreographed by the Gov'ts spin machine no doubt. It's too late though, May is finished.

[ladeside] 29/11/2018 10:09

Alphorn,The price of new cars in this country is just ridiculous, I reckon we are paying almost double what many EU countries are paying and when they're asking for £18k for a basic 1.0 Volkswagen Golf or Seat Ibiza, you know there's something seriously wrong.

[alphorn] 29/11/2018 10:09

4. Inability to see the blinding obvious.

[mr.elbee] 29/11/2018 10:07

.1 desperation of our masters?
2.the British are stupid.
3 BOTH OF THEM

[alphorn] 29/11/2018 10:02

The annual rate of growth in new consumer borrowing fell to its lowest level for three years during October, according to Bank of England statistics published today. Consumers borrowed 7.5 per cent more than a year earlier, the slowest rate of annual growth since May 2015.

Slow down in car purchases? A guess.

[alphorn] 29/11/2018 09:53

willoicc - you have emphasised the point that I was trying to make very well. They are the new owners and they have used their brains to make a go of it. The same opportunity had been available to the UK fishermen.

(Was not aware it was your post - I would have just said that I disagree. Apologies)

[xxxxxy] 29/11/2018 09:52

Mark B
Posted November 29, 2018 at 5:58 am | Permalink
Good morning

As I said in yesterday’s post. Peter Shaw made these kinds of predictions back in 1975 at the Oxford Union Debate. See YouTube.

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The problem here is, we are allowing those that wish us tied to the EU to set the debate. That is usually around the economy, business and jobs. To me it has always been about governance. Who makes our laws. Who signs our treaties. Who represents us. Who is answerable to us. None of this can be said to be the UK government and parliament because they have given most of the powers away.

I voted Leave because I do not want the EU to do anything for me, I want my parliament to do it. That is what all 650 MP’s are paid to do !

I don’t care about the money. None of our former colonies cared about the money when they were given independence. They were never asked to sign an Withdrawal Agreement before being granted independence. Why should we ?

[ladeside] 29/11/2018 09:50

I see "project fear" has stepped up another major notch today.



Do they still not get it that people are just laughing at this sort of mince and if anything it just hardens their resolve.

Honestly, what a bunch of useless cretins we have in this Government...........

[grahamite2] 29/11/2018 09:48

Just for a change from Brexit



A nice change, for management actually to be held to account for idiocy.

[willoicc] 29/11/2018 09:46

Alphorn.

The fishermen sold their uneconomic quotas to the Spanish, or whoever, who had or bought other quotas. By adding the quotas together they were able to use larger trawlers and make fishing economic.

I do not believe that I was a fool to say that albeit more briefly in my original post.

Even if I am a fool, I will still attempt to be civil.


Alphorn
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Ace - Stoned can not deal with facts, so don't expect to get any coherent response from him.


On another subject some fool above said that the fishing quotas were sold by the UK fishermen because they are uneconomic - don't whine now then. Become a communist and nationalise them all.
(I would like my previous houses back - because they have rocketed in value).

[xxxxxy] 29/11/2018 09:33

Futile Project Fear figures
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: NOVEMBER 29, 2018
Yesterday in the Urgent Question on the latest round of Project Fear Treasury forecasts I asked them to tell us what the growth rate was in the last 25 years before we joined the European Community, and what the growth rate has been in the last 25 years from 1992 when they established the full single market and customs union. It was obvious we grew faster outside the EU than in it, so the Treasury declined to share these actual historical figures.

As UK GDP data begins in 1948 I have now confirmed that between 1948 and 1972 when we joined the EC, growth amounted to 118%.
In the years from 1993 to 2017, following completion of the single market, growth was just 69%.

In other words, growth inside the EU was 41% lower than before we joined. So using the Treasury way of explaining these things, at today’s values the UK economy would be far better off in income and output terms than we are following time in the EU. They should adopt their own negative language and tell us just what a colossal loss of income and output this amounts to.

Those who support the EU will immediately say that the reason for the much slower growth in the EU is not to do with our membership. As soon as they accept this they must therefore acknowledge that the Treasury forecasts for the next fifteen years are wrong, as clearly a wide range of factors can affect economic out turns. Their protestations are, however, wild like their gloomy forecasts. It is the case that membership of the EEC led to a sharpened decline in much of our manufacturing in the early years when we took the hit of tariff free competition. It is also the case the European Exchange Rate Mechanism did great damage to jobs, output and incomes, at just the time when the EU completed its single market.

The Treasury forecasts of lower growth are likely to be well out, and their assumptions are not realistic for the WTO exit where they leave out most of the upside we would expect.

The Bank of England forecasts are just absurd. They assume a fall in output almost as large as all our exports to the EU! Even the Bank can’t think we would lose that much and can’t ignore all the import substitution we would do in such extreme and impossible circumstances. How else do they get to such a wildly high fall in output?

[alphorn] 29/11/2018 09:22

Hi Bw, yes. About emails again. Hope all well.

[diku] 29/11/2018 09:20

237961 post of the day...picture speaks volumes...

[w5amh] 29/11/2018 09:11

Bob,if all your wishes came true, an independant Scotland staying in the EU.Would you be happy with a hard border between Scotland and England.

[broadwood] 29/11/2018 09:03

gotno - best regards.

[gotnorolex] 29/11/2018 08:55

Morning broadwood! Been in purdah?

[maxk] 29/11/2018 08:52

Good one bob!

[broadwood] 29/11/2018 08:51

Alp - Have you sent me a personal message on ADVFN?

Just checking before opening as I've had numerous scams recently?

[diku] 29/11/2018 08:46

Corbyn comes across similar to Michael Foot...he talks the talk...but doesn't fit the bill as a PM...and during the Brexit saga no party would want to change their leader...as they have snookered themselves...time to gradually bring the other Milliband in...