Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[alphorn] 29/11/2018 09:22

Hi Bw, yes. About emails again. Hope all well.

[diku] 29/11/2018 09:20

237961 post of the day...picture speaks volumes...

[w5amh] 29/11/2018 09:11

Bob,if all your wishes came true, an independant Scotland staying in the EU.Would you be happy with a hard border between Scotland and England.

[broadwood] 29/11/2018 09:03

gotno - best regards.

[gotnorolex] 29/11/2018 08:55

Morning broadwood! Been in purdah?

[maxk] 29/11/2018 08:52

Good one bob!

[broadwood] 29/11/2018 08:51

Alp - Have you sent me a personal message on ADVFN?

Just checking before opening as I've had numerous scams recently?

[diku] 29/11/2018 08:46

Corbyn comes across similar to Michael Foot...he talks the talk...but doesn't fit the bill as a PM...and during the Brexit saga no party would want to change their leader...as they have snookered themselves...time to gradually bring the other Milliband in...

[gotnorolex] 29/11/2018 08:42

The Barclay Twins are sharpening their pencils again!

[minerve] 29/11/2018 08:33

"because of Corbyn, not Brexit"

Stupid headline. Nobody can say the markets aren't spooked by Brexit because they are. The vote on 2016 plunged the £ well before the prospect of Corbyn came along. I would also say it has a lot to do with the uncertainty regardless of what the concern is coupled with general growth concerns caused by tariffs and volatile energy prices.

[gotnorolex] 29/11/2018 08:29

Money is already draining from Britain but because of Corbyn, not Brexit
Markets are spooked at the prospect of Corbyn as PM

[bargainbob] 29/11/2018 07:40

Friends you know this already, and if you don’t you’ve been reading too many articles in the Daily Hate Mail, you are living in a fabricated construction of false democracy. A false democracy where politicians, aided and abetted by the majority of a pliable media with vested interests, simply refuse to make themselves accountable to you, and get away with it, easily.

Every inter-action with the much referenced “British people” is stage managed, diluted and homogenised to allow politicians in power, who, for all intents and purposes appear to be getting questioned about something important to the evening TV viewers waiting for Strictly Anything Great British in a Jungle to come on the google box, to respond to the questioner with standard one or two sentence bland conceptual intangible answers that really mean nothing and are no use to man nor beast. Real people with views that conflict with what the politician is trying to hard sell you are simply not allowed to intercede or provide an opposing opinion that may inform your views or enrich your understanding of the issue under debate.

In Scotland it’s even worse than that. You just don’t exist.

Reading the BBC news website’s article this morning entitled “ Brexit: Theresa May insists deal with EU is good for Scotland” I noted and accepted the usual British nationalist propaganda, that isn’t nationalist apparently because it’s British, of the first four paragraphs or so, supportive of the most ineffectual PM since Heath’s plan to separate the nations of the UK from their European neighbours in an isolationist orgy of little empire pomp and circumstance, commentary reinforcing and promoting the half a dozen bland phrases that the robotic leader spouts on an hourly basis about the separation.

Then I chuckled at the game effort at a confidence trick flung in to the text, of the not so subtle project fear variety, suggesting that the UK government had done a bit of analytical work which showed that under Theresa’s separatist plans the economy of the ‘ family of nations’ could be 3.9% wee’er after 15 years but under a no deal it would be the reverse of 3.9% wee’er, a no deal Brexit would deliver a 9.3% hit to the economy! After 15 years? How would they know? These Tory think-tank boffin types must be geniuses, and if they are, why are we in such a mess in the first place? So effectively they are telling you Brexit is gonnae be disastrous, a deliberate act by a British government is going to harm the economies of the countries which make up the UK, but you’ve no’ tae worry because under this plan you’ll get the least worst outcome. Think about it. How mental is that?

The bit that really got me though about this article, that really stuck in my throat, returning to my earlier comment that the people of Scotland don’t exist in the eyes of those that govern them, was the missing sentence from a paragraph referring to the First Minister of Scotland’s views about Theresa May’s Brexit plan which reads “ Ms Sturgeon, who wants the UK to remain permanently in the single market and customs union and has backed calls for another referendum on the Brexit terms, has said the SNP’s 35 MPs at Westminster will vote against the deal on 11 December.”

The missing sentence, the factual context which would have informed any reader of the article as to why the First Minister of Scotland has an opposing view to that of the British government, should have been, of course ‘ The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly in favour of remaining in the European Union by a margin of 62% to 38%.’ Was it there? No. Not a sniff of a mention, you are not important.

The reasons why Scotland should return to its rightful, and normal, state of being a self-governing independent country are many, but being considered invisible must be high up the list I would think.

[bargainbob] 29/11/2018 07:39

It came you missed it on Monday.

[buywell3] 29/11/2018 06:26

Nope it don't look like 58.5p cometh

55p retest when the market wakes up to the FED smoke

[patientcapital] 28/11/2018 23:13

Some interesting noises coming out of Germany and Denmark. Too little, too late one suspects. If they force Barnier to amend the proposal one imagines Macron will cause a fuss. Again. Then Spain. Again.The Irish PMs words recently about a hard exit so called lasting only a few weeks might be tempting. His view was that urgent agreement on trade would have to occur in order for all parties to meet their WTO obligations. I wonder if he was giving us a hint.

[alphorn] 28/11/2018 23:08

Just ignore it then diku. Action is not mandatory!

[diku] 28/11/2018 22:59

This BOE project fear mark2 is actually now directed at MPs as they are voting for the deal and not the joe public voter...project fear mark1 was directed at the joe public voter...sway MPs into voting the deal?...

[alphorn] 28/11/2018 22:49

It will be interesting to see whether the government is forced to publish the full legal opinion. What are the key points that they want to keep in a drawer? Some of the cabinet are the same that were pushing Blair to publish the Iraq legal opinion - now they are doing the same!

[alphorn] 28/11/2018 22:44

Those who took forex positions prior to the referendum did very well. Call it what you like; it was a huge opportunity. Same coming up again with forex and/or foreign earners and opposite positions in domestics. Whatever your views.
Volatility is almost guaranteed.

[diku] 28/11/2018 22:44

If the deal goes through EU knows £39bln is coming...but if the UK leaves with no deal and no to £39bln...anybody think EU will come back after the £39bln via the back door...probably dig up some past legal clauses...

[xxxxxy] 28/11/2018 22:39

People. Gloves off. Time to BOYCOTT the EU. The Elite have crushed and twisted and swindled our Democracy. But the People have teeth too and it is time to bare them,

This is a Non – Agreement cobbled together by May and a two-faced Conservative Party. It is trying to fob off the The Referendum Result and sell this 'agreement'. But in effect it is REMAIN all dressed up in new clothing and method. This will never be harmonious, and now may be the time to consider various campaigns such as whether to buy German cars for example. 17 million voted against staying in the EU. That is a lot of buying power. Think before buy now.
Campaign. The politicians have not listened. The Economic War. THE PEOPLE RULE OK!

German cars and apes


German cars unfinished business


And there is the consideration of Continental European wine. Many fine and exciting wines found outside Europe.

The EUSSR has stated publically it wants to HURT the UK. We can HURT the EUSSR too, particulay Germany and Vichy France. Spanish holiday. Think.

The People can vote and not be listened to. BUT THE PEOPLE CAN ACT . Think before buying from the EUSSR


Pass it on. BOYCOTT the EUSSR. Pass it on.