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[xxxxxy] 01/12/2020 07:40

Who do you trust on defence? NATO or the EU?The EU's inexorable replacing of NATO for European defence is out in the Brexit open?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020Facts4EU.Org reviews the EU's appalling defence record and its new and scary global ambitionsMost British people have never heard of the EU Commission's Vice-President and High Representative, Señor Josep Borrell Fontelles, arguably the most powerful man in Brussels.Unelected Señor Burrell Fontelles – Facts4EU.Org does not count 'elections' where there is only one candidate to vote for - is in charge of the EU's Common Defence Policy and its foreign policy. He controls billions of Euros of expenditure, a great deal of it supplied by the British taxpayer.Recently he has once again been making statements revealing how the EU's inevitable goal is to replace NATO as the guarantor of peace in Europe, a role NATO has held successfully for over 70 years. This is despite the fact that EU countries have failed to finance their own defence in all this time.Brexit or not, the UK must stand up for NATO's defence of EuropeBREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYThe EU's latest moves towards its 'European Army'?EU Vice-President Josep Borrell Fontelles standing with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg last year"This year we made some important steps forward towards enhancing the EU's strategic autonomy and becoming a stronger global actor.""In 2017, 25 EU Member States decided to make use of a possibility foreseen in the EU Treaty to step up their engagement on defence cooperation. By establishing the Permanent Structured Cooperation (PESCO), they signed up to a set of defence commitments and launched collaborative projects – currently 46 in total – to develop capabilities together and be ready to deploy them together.""...delivering concrete results on as many projects as possible, with focus on operational projects facilitating joint deployment of forces on the ground.""...identifies six very concrete focus areas for joint investment and cooperation – from Main Battle Tank and Patrol Ships to Countering drones, Defence in Space and Military Mobility. It further identifies over 100 concrete collaborative opportunities""2020 brought compelling evidence that we are making steady progress on European defence, step by step, with strategic perseverance."... Full article on site

[freddie ferret] 01/12/2020 00:54

The main thing about fish is the British should eat them!

[ball deap] 01/12/2020 00:11

Apparently Timmy Mallett, Paul Gadd, Paul Gambaccini, Robert Kilroy-Silk and Michael Barrymore have gone short. They used the Momentum trading strategy and it turned brown.

[maxk] 01/12/2020 00:03

Tell that to the €uro's!

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:54

They can all retrain and move on like we all have to!

[maxk] 30/11/2020 23:46

Try reading this article Min, even through the haze you will see the complexity that can thrown up if you try.






eg, quotas on different types of fish, all 140 odd of them... and they are all ours!

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:46

Go for your sovereignty on WTO tariffs!

LOL!

[maxk] 30/11/2020 23:41

You really ought to leave it alone Min, you are not thinking straight.

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:30

Shall we get C4 news involved?

No wonder they are trying to shut them down.

They will eventually find something you numpties will not want to hear!

[grahamite2] 30/11/2020 23:26

I wonder why Banks had Russian connections?

Carole Cadwalladr has just been ordered to pay £62,000 costs in a libel action arising from such claims so you should probably be a bit cautious.

For the rest of us it just confirms that prejudice and fantasy are all the remoaners have got.

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:24

Here’s simple, two point plan for this Government if they want to start to rebuild credibility and trust.

1. Stop pandering to Tory backbenchers.
2. See point 1.

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:23

Boris needs a bus with "Lockdowns work" painted on the side. 52% of the population will believe it!

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:22

And this is what we’re reduced to. Arguing about scotch eggs. 🤦‍a94;️


UK ..World leading?


HA HA HA HA HA HA!

What a circus!

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:20

Ref COVID tiers:

It's a LOL moment.

Tories frothing at the mouth about the lack of 'evidence'.

The same ones that voted through the hardest possible Brexit. Despite lots of evidence that it will make the British people poorer.

Translation: 'evidence' is something you can ignore when you don't like it. Truly Trumpian.

- FT comment.

[maxk] 30/11/2020 23:20

"Sanity is not statistical"



Min = living proof of the position!

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:18

I want a cost benefit analysis as to why my movement in the European Union is now being restricted. Why so many new unnecessary restrictions!

[grahamite2] 30/11/2020 23:17

-> "because there's no reason whatever that it should. "

And there is no reason why it shouldn't either.

Exactly. You make my point for me. The two things are wholly unconnected. You might tell careful when you have a minute.

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:15

The morons still don't see they got duped to help the plutocrats continue their laundering game...

Probably never will.

I wonder why Banks had Russian connections?

Does the question ever occur to them?

Thickos.

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:11

"Many older people travelled extensively to European Countries and knew many friends but it did not make them remainers, because there's no reason whatever that it should. If young people believe that leaving the EU will prevent them travelling extensively to European Countries and knowing many friends there, then they have been fed a complete lie."


-> "because there's no reason whatever that it should. "

And there is no reason why it shouldn't either.

You keep banding on about your land and your fish, neanderthal.

You lot are just a backward blip in history.

Sanity is not statistical. ;)

[minerve 2] 30/11/2020 23:04

"Your average European is very thick careful, they just mince about in tight trousers chew gum a make pornos."

Which you watch.....

Guffaw guffaw.

[grahamite2] 30/11/2020 23:03

Many young people were remainers because they travelled extensively to European Countries and knew many friends.

Many older people travelled extensively to European Countries and knew many friends but it did not make them remainers, because there's no reason whatever that it should. If young people believe that leaving the EU will prevent them travelling extensively to European Countries and knowing many friends there, then they have been fed a complete lie.