Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[poikka] 29/11/2020 18:29

Min - "The sector, however, is not alone - you could carbon copy the same story onto many sectors."

Quite so, Minnie, but control over our waters (if you'll excuse the expression) is central to the concept of sovereignty, as I'm sure you'll agree. We have, IMHO, a government that is acutely aware of the need to revitalise our economy after decades of it being sucked dry.

The EU creates an inward-looking welfare culture that we need to escape from, and this is really the last opportunity. They are desperate for us not to succeed and it'll be a tough job for the negotiators to agree means by which our commerce can be supported and encouraged without disturbing the EU's totally un-level level playing field.

None of which I expect you to agree with, but there we are.

[warranty] 29/11/2020 18:29

UK takes back control of 100% of our waters. The French, Belgian and Dutch fishermen can still fish in our waters if they agree to register and land their catch in the UK. Problem solved. No different to other businesses opening outlets in other countries.

[jl5006] 29/11/2020 18:29

Why do so many accept the truth in folly?

Why have the inner 4 come out so resiliently in favour of the new rules of insanity - Raab being the latest.

My comment - u have demonstrated no competence whatsoever since March this year u have spread lies and untruths.

U can never be forgiven - and the more lies u tell the worse it will be.

Once u lie it becomes more difficult to deny the lie.

Now the inner 4 are trying to spread more fear.

End product - end of Tory party

[minerve 2] 29/11/2020 18:15

Boris has made a deal increasingly more difficult because any sense of trust with this charlatan AND this government have gone out of the window with their attempt to break international law.

[minerve 2] 29/11/2020 18:13

We are where we are and those in Europe have to sell the deal to their electorate just as much as our government have to sell it to 'us'. I would suggest that some ratchet scheme is agreed where overtime the UK gradually gains 'back' rights of all fishing in the waters that would be deemed 'ours' from previous times. Selling a step change is incredibly difficult because there is no time to adjust and promises of compensation are difficult to calculate and the promises behind them aren't trusted.

[jl5006] 29/11/2020 18:08

Max
There can be no sensible outcome.
They are Shylock
Y does Frost not put them on taost under the grill those little grenouilles - they will soon shrivel.

[maxk] 29/11/2020 17:59

But it's a start!


It would appear to be a big deal for the €uro's, and if so, why are they risking armageddon with their intransigent position?

[minerve 2] 29/11/2020 17:54

Poikka

I don't disagree with what you say. It is sad that this has happened to UK fishing. The sector, however, is not alone - you could carbon copy the same story onto many sectors. The EU is not entirely to blame and leaving the EU will not remove the problems you expect it to. It is certainly not worth damaging other sectors in the belief that this will return to the golden days. It won't.

[poikka] 29/11/2020 17:46

Good article, 856. Let's hope that this and future governments practice realistic sustainability of fish stocks.

In 1961, on my first trip to sea from Ipswich to the Hudson Bay, on lookout going up the North Sea, I was amazed at the mass of lights from fishing boats (British). By the time I retired, the only fishing boats (well nearly) you'd see would be Belgian and Dutch beam trawlers, and not many either.

[utrickytrees] 29/11/2020 17:02

Poikka, is it taking over from Eastenders?

[xxxxxy] 29/11/2020 14:07

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[diku] 29/11/2020 11:52

If and when the Brexit is done will xxxxx be out of a job from this thread?...

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[cheshire pete] 29/11/2020 11:44

Agree scruff1, a green tick from me. It will be good when Brexit is sorted, we can spend more time exchanging investment ideas and data lol.

[cheshire pete] 29/11/2020 11:42

Agree Minerve. Think the green revolution is likely to gather momentum going forward and the transition from petrol/diesel to electric vehicles an important part. So comfortable being invested in this area and can live with any share price volatility.

Also invested in gold as a hedge against inflation, which some commentators are saying is inevitable going forward although not clear when. High debt, inflation and high gold prices have happened before, so if history repeats itself...