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[scruff1] 28/11/2020 13:37

Tricky
Thats funny :-)

[scruff1] 28/11/2020 13:31

But I will say one thing for the Conservatives it is only their MP's that are objecting to this economic vandalism. Has anyone heard a squeak from Labour MP's? It seems to be their policy to keep stum and let Chaos and his smirking side kick destroy themselves and their party for a generation. Why get involved? It must be great to be them and just watch and laugh as the lunatics beat themselves to death.

[scruff1] 28/11/2020 13:18

In the absence of any figures produced(or more likely 'revealed')by the government an economic forecaster has calculated that the Tear system devised by captain chaos (or more likely someone close to him with more ability) will cost £900m PER DAY.
This is a Conservative government the party of fiscal responsibility. What hope is there for the future.

[alphorn] 28/11/2020 13:12

stoned - you are laughable. The scary bit is that you have started to believe the rubbish that you write.

Even some of the lead politicians post referendum did not understand the difference of the Single Market and the Customs Union. Even today the Irish issue is swept under the carpet. Idiots who want to run your life.

[utrickytrees] 28/11/2020 12:49

Maxk I thought it unusual when I noticed a whaling vessel with 'save minerve' on side navagating the Leeds liverpool canal last week..I'd bet hes had the jab already.

[cheshire pete] 28/11/2020 12:42

Why didn't May initiate building trawlers after the Referendum result. Boris could have too. Cost about 30 mill, every time lift net out earns £150k according to our fishmonger, nice business if you can get it lol.

[mr.elbee] 28/11/2020 12:37

so relevant to exactly what ?
Redwood is chicken he could sort Boris and co out tomorrow.

[xxxxxy] 28/11/2020 12:35

John Redwood@johnredwood·1hThe UK should be setting out great plans to expand our fishing fleet and increase our food processing industries as we take back control of our seas. Read how on

[cleverinvester] 28/11/2020 12:02

Net curtains I couldn't agree more

[maxk] 28/11/2020 11:28

Min wins again...




Severely obese people with BMIs over 40 should get a Covid vaccine BEFORE millions of healthy Brits aged 50 to 65, official guidance confirms

Official advice says morbidly obese people should be included in 'at-risk' group

One in eight adults in UK are classed as morbidly obese – the fattest category
Morbidly people are almost twice as likely to die from Covid, hospital data shows




By CONNOR BOYD ASSISTANT HEALTH EDITOR FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 18:47, 27 November 2020 | UPDATED: 08:22, 28 November 2020

[mikemichael2] 28/11/2020 11:16

Hands off our fish.

The EU 27,has a total population of hungry fish-eaters that is around six times that of the UK, Norway, the Faroe Islands and Iceland combined. Trade is driven by supply and demand. Free trade agreements merely grease the wheels.

The potential changes to fishing opportunities from 2021 onwards do not simply offer UK fishermen the chance to land more fish and earn more money, they also materially shift the control of a resource and the balance of power in supply and demand in the UK’s favour, which is perhaps why the EU is being so vocal in its attempts to dissuade the UK from seizing this opportunity with both hands.

[cheshire pete] 28/11/2020 11:09

So Barnier has taken this long to concede our sovereignty over waters and fishing. Would you trust this man. Watched most of the good the bad and the ugly last night and it seemed relevant...guess which one Barnier would be lol.

EU knows trying to agree a protracted deal on extended fishing with reducing catch for EU is tantamount to no change because a different UK administration would likely not enforce it or possibly overturn it.

UK right to reject it. Still time to walk away. No deal.

EU in decline, UK needs to seize global opportunities Singapore style. That is EU's real concern, fishing very much a sideshow / diversionary tactic.....give a bit of ground on fishing but make sure they can't undercut us.

[alphorn] 28/11/2020 10:39

"If an agreement is reached it will be a sell out".

Often the answer is in full view.

For the n'th time 'No Deal' has never been a serious option by any of the Brexiteer groups. That is why there has never been any serious attempt to trigger it. It could come only by accident.

In the same way the run up to the referendum with its uncertainty had a guaranteed outcome.

Don't get distracted by the emotional noise.

[maxk] 28/11/2020 10:21

And then surrender...

[diku] 28/11/2020 10:19

Take it to the wire till near Christmas...

[geckotheglorious] 28/11/2020 09:48

maxk27 Nov '20 - 23:12 - 321723 of 321737

And highest death toll PER CAPITA in Europe is?

Deaths per 1m pop

1) Belgium
2) San Marino
3) Spain
4) Italy
5) UK

Always worth considering in my view.

[stonedyou] 28/11/2020 09:35

Oh dear! oh dear!! oh dear!!! oh dear!!!! oh dear!!!!! oh dear!!!!!!


Judge: Republicans Will Likely Win Pennsylvania Election Lawsuit


The judge who ordered Pennsylvania to not certify the results of the 2020 election wrote in an opinion on Friday that the Republicans who filed the related lawsuit will likely win the case.

Pennsylvania Commonwealth Judge Patricia McCullough made the assessment as part of an opinion explaining her rationale for blocking Pennsylvania’s election certification.

A group of Republican lawmakers and candidates sued the Keystone State earlier this week, arguing that the state legislature’s mail-in voting law—Act 77—violated the commonwealth’s constitution.



“Petitioners appear to have established a likelihood to succeed on the merits because petitioners have asserted the Constitution does not provide a mechanism for the legislature to allow for expansion of absentee voting without a constitutional amendment,” McCullough wrote.

[maxk] 28/11/2020 09:28

I think this bird sums it up well....Doris will try a late surrender





The ERG's warning to No 10 does not bode well for a Brexit betrayal

Significant backsliding may well be underway at the eleventh hour


27 November 2020 • 4:06pm
Alexandra Phillips





It may be solace to some to learn that sovereignty stalwarts in Parliament are prepared to defy the Prime Minister and vote down any deal with the EU that fails to respect national self-determination. The ERG, longtime agitateurs of successive occupants of Number 10 on the issue of Europe, wants time to analyse the new text before granting Parliamentary assent. Democracy in action from the elected custodians of our historic vote.

Yet the latest flexing of rebel backbenchers is more a harbinger of doom.

Even with a 60-strong united front, the Brexiteer Brigade does not have the numerical muscle. The firing of warning shots from inside the ERG serves more as an ominous signal that significant backsliding is underway at the eleventh hour.

Rhetoric from the other side echoes urgency in securing a deal rather than calling it quits. Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told the European Parliament that the next few days are going to be decisive, having audaciously traversed a diary of deadlines as the clock counts down to the end of the transition period. The arbitrary timetable drawn up for negotiations has become a real, legal limit while tugs-of-war over fishing and state aid are supposedly still taking place.

But what of other issues downstream of a deal? The European Arrest Warrant, food standards, citizens’ rights, agency memberships, the supremacy of the ECJ and subscription to the ECHR? Any final text is expected to stretch to over 1200 pages of legalese, that with all the will in the world and a supergroup of the best legal brains, leaves little time for scrutiny before MPs will be bounced into backing it.

The Conservative stalwarts on whom we all depended to defy their own have caved before, allowing the Withdrawal Agreement in all its horror to sail through Parliament. Accidentally annexing part of the country to a foreign power under rushed legislation has not set a comforting precedent. Even then, the Internal Markets Bill, once vociferously demonised a few weeks back, has become stuck in the political weeds in the second chamber and is only likely to survive following pretty disfiguring surgery.

Any suggestion that an ERG rebellion could, or would, stop a legal juggernaut in its tracks, regardless of it being the precursor to a permanent international treaty, is for the birds.

A chorus of catastrophists have also started to once again assemble, less to dissuade Boris from walking away from the negotiating table and more, one fears, to give him cover to stay at it. From the Office for Budget Responsibility to the Bank Of England, the mood music is being set for British capitulation.

Were we truly adamant about our so-called red lines, we would have carved them in stone and set about building policy around them months ago. From building up our fishing fleet, to sorting out customs solutions, reimagining subsidies to using leverage as one of the world’s principal financial centres, we should have been baking the cake we were planning on eating.

Instead this week's spending review bore no mention of Brexit, a clear indication that those in charge have status quo in their sights, while we started the year with the closure of the Department for Exiting the EU and a telling silence shrouding our own no deal planning.

Regardless of protestations from the High Priests of Brexit, the cross-channel ricocheting of negotiators and squirming of apparatchiks under ticking clocks evidences little British intent to walk away from a dreadful deal.