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[kenbachelor] 07/11/2020 09:23

Scruff - Putin's about to retire, although I don't think it's official yet!

[maxk] 07/11/2020 09:14

We've got our own mad hatters tea partys, all three of them: Con, Lab and Lib

[scruff1] 07/11/2020 09:02

At least xi Jinping can get on with bullying his neighbours unhindered and get back to infiltrating American industry, Rouhani can dust off his nuclear chemistry set and get back to bumping off Shias in Iraq, Putin can carry on with his plan to dominate anywhere that China doesnt and European Nato states can put their cash away as Jo and Boris can reinstate the status quo. Have good day :-)

[careful] 07/11/2020 08:57

oh dear,
We shall have a new boss, a remainer, in the White House.

Biden is proud of his Irish catholic roots and was with Obama in their attempt to keep the UK in the EU.
Boris Johnson said that Obama was against Brexit because he was Kenyan, (ouch).
Biden called Johnson a Trump clone.

Then there was the dreadful Farage, so admired by Trump who thought that Theresa May should make him foreign secretary.
Biden is now looking to the mighty EU. to repair the damage caused by Trump.

The end of the mad hatters tea part is close and it changes the long term prospects of Brexit success.
Johnson is indeed a Trump clone, not good for the UK.

[xxxxxy] 07/11/2020 08:26

EU makes another power grab to take countries' money and deny them rightsEU set to to impose 'Rule of Law', remove veto, and change its own rules to do this?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020. Free to use, with attribution and link to https://facts4eu.org/news.EU prepares to cut off funds within 7 months if it doesn't like a member state's lawsAnd these moves have relevance to 'Brexit UK'after the end of this year – see belowOn Thursday in Brussels, the EU's three main bodies – the Council, the Parliament, and the Commission – came together in their determination to change the rules of how they will deal with member states whose domestic laws the EU apparatchiks don't like.Parliament negotiators reached a provisional agreement with the Council presidency on 05 November on legislation establishing a mechanism that would allow the suspension of budget payments to a member state violating what the EU calls its "rule of law".The new procedures will only require qualified majority votingCurrently the EU can only impose sanctions against a member state, including the suspension of membership rights, under Article 7 of the Treaty on European Union, if all member states including the alleged transgressors agree. This involves the principle of unanimity and means that an EU country can veto the proposed actions.Under the new procedures this would no longer the case. Arch-federalist MEP Guy Verhofstadt was delighted, saying: "Agreement reached on a proper rule of law mechanism! EU funds are tied to EU values... No double standards, no excuses"?Here's the EU Parliament on Thursday:-"The decision on the suspension will have to be taken by the Council acting by a qualified majority on the proposal of the European Commission."What's more, a country doesn't need to commit an actual offence for the EU to cut off fundsThe new draconian powers now planned by the EU do not require a member state actually to commit 'an offence' which might involve EU funding. The EU will be able to take action merely if it thinks this is possible.Here is the EU Parliament on Thursday, 05 Nov 2020:-"Crucially, MEPs succeeded in keeping a strong preventive aspect for the mechanism: not only can it be triggered when a breach is shown to directly affect the budget, but also when there is a serious risk that it may do so, thus ensuring that the mechanism prevents possible situations where EU funds could finance actions that are in conflict with EU values."Actions against a member state will be taken much more speedilyAgain, here is the EU Parliament's report on Thursday:-"MEPs succeeded in shortening the time that the EU institutions will have for the adoption of measures against a member state, if risks of breaches of the rule of law are identified, to a maximum of 7-9 months (down from 12-13 months as initially requested by Council)."The Commission, after establishing the existence of a breach, will propose to trigger the conditionality mechanism against an EU government. The Council then will have one month to adopt the proposed measures (or three months in exceptional cases), by a qualified majority. The Commission will use its rights to convene the Council to make sure the deadline is respected."The relevance to Brexit Britain and the Withdrawal AgreementFor years the EU has been extending its legal powers in the way we have reported in its latest moves above.A good example of this is the Withdrawal Agreement it drafted, in collusion with the Theresa May Government and her civil servants. Regardless of any compromised trade deal which might be put together in the coming days, the Withdrawal Agreement guarantees the EU legal oversight over parts of the UK's laws and parts of its day-to-day operations – both now and in the future.The EU wants this oversight (in its Withdrawal Agreement with the UK and in these new rules for member states) as a stick with which to keep awkward states in line with its authoritarian neo-liberal agenda.And this includes the United Kingdom.Tile right: © Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020 - click to enlarge. Free to use, with attribution to https://facts4eu.org/news.?See our 'Summary of the Summaries' of the legal caseagainst the Withdrawal Agreement here.The latest move by the EU on Thursday shows how the EU has lost none of its appetite for legal domination of its remaining members, and of the United Kingdom.OBSERVATIONSYear after year the EU has extended its powers and has made no secret of its ambition to become a superstate, subsuming all member countries into a monolithic bloc run from Brussels.Our report above is just one more example of how the EU is determined to rule everything in Europe, according to laws and directives devised by federal fanatics in the Commission and in the EU Parliament.Like most people, the Brexit Facts4EU.Org team loves Europe. We enjoy and celebrate the different experiences to be had when visiting different countries. Every year, thanks to EU apparatchiks, these differences diminish and so do some of the pleasures of experiencing life in free countries.It's not too late to keep up the pressure on the GovernmentAt the end of this year it is essential that the United Kingdom moves as far away from the EU's creeping, totalitarian homogeneity as possible. We really hope the UK can be a beacon of light to freedom-lovers everywhere.If you agree, can you please help us to keep fighting for a free, independent, and sovereign United Kingdom? You can do this by sending a letter to Boris Johnson and to your MP, as part of the 'Big Brexit Initiative' of 16 major Brexit organisations we organised last week.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYWhat can ordinary voters do?We are urging all those who voted for a free, independent, and sovereign United Kingdom to stand up and be counted. If you would like to do something positive to help, there are two things you can do:-?© No.10?© ParliamentLetter to the Prime MinisterPlease sign and sendThe Big Brexit Initiative letterLetter to your MPPlease add his/her name, your details, sign and sendThe voter's 'MP letter' versionYou can find your MP's contact details here.

[asa8] 07/11/2020 08:15

First thing Hilary will do is blow joe of in the newly named BLM house

[ignoble] 07/11/2020 08:05

"close".... Bit of an understatement
LOL

[bargainbob] 07/11/2020 06:00

Wow you and Pete are on the ball.

[k38] 07/11/2020 00:35

My bet I believe Trump will throw the towel this weekend.

[cheshire pete] 06/11/2020 22:52

Sounds like an admission by the 'state officials'...Trump right to stand his ground. What else went on that we don't yet know about?

[jl5006] 06/11/2020 22:45

Challenging situation for the dementia man ? Where is Hilary telling him what to do.

[k38] 06/11/2020 22:40

'Already doing it... 'why on earth they don't do it straight away.. they knew was illegal to count these votes... what on earth they was thinking.Thesame think happens in all states.Cancel the election, make new rules and vote again... restore the dignity (lol) in America democracy

[k38] 06/11/2020 22:33

LATESTPA GOP ASK SCOTUS TO ORDER SEGREGATION OF BALLOTS RECEIVED AFTER ELECTION DAY, STATE OFFICIALS SAY THEY ARE ALREADY DOING IT.

[jl5006] 06/11/2020 22:25

Truth - dont like it - jobs - love it
Lies - deceit - does the electorate understand - of course not.
Yet with no understanding - the social media pronounces.
The future is not - and social media will know - what they never knew but thought they did - and will complain that they do not have what they thought they would have
and they will indeed regret and blame - cant afford to keep my kids - condoms were not deemed inessential

[k38] 06/11/2020 22:19

The Iranian president, whatever his name, was laughing at the situation and who else criticise Trump? ofcourse, the Germans and Brussels. All others kept their mouth shut, no taking sides. Lol

[k38] 06/11/2020 22:09

The Democrats give us the best of America. The world is laughing at them.I love it and this is not finish by any means....lol

[k38] 06/11/2020 22:04

Postal votes a day old a date late and most unchallenged..... that's the truth and that what Democrats are afraid of and delay the remain votes to force Trump to resign...No, Trump is not that stupid, he will not give up.

[cheshire pete] 06/11/2020 22:02

Withdrawal Agreement got to go. No deal.