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[bargainbob] 01/11/2020 16:13

4 hrs ago
Covid in Scotland: NHS chiefs planning vaccine roll-out in six weeks

[xxxxxy] 01/11/2020 15:59

Let's be honest. Lockdown down is a Medieval strategy and is rubbish.

[xxxxxy] 01/11/2020 15:56

Daily Telegraph

[bargainbob] 01/11/2020 15:48

Boris has got no one talking about the Brexit shambles today .

[mr.elbee] 01/11/2020 15:40

This is gigantic back covering exercise .. in March they will say their lockdown and testing has cured the problem,


and nobody...nobody .....can gainsay that.

then they will all toddle off into the sunset.

[mr.elbee] 01/11/2020 15:38

because if they dont OFCOM will shut them down..to contradict public health policy is now a crime...simples.

[xxxxxy] 01/11/2020 15:06

Sea_WarriorPosted November 1, 2020 at 8:08 am | PermalinkIf I were Nigel Farage I would launch a big recruitment drive tomorrow.

[xxxxxy] 01/11/2020 15:03

John Redwood@johnredwood·6hWhat is the exit strategy from national lock down?

[minerve 2] 01/11/2020 14:15

Utricky

I agree that the T Cell issue needs to be addressed because it is madness to have policy without those questions being answered.

[maxk] 01/11/2020 14:15

We've got as much idea as the plonkers in charge.

[careful] 01/11/2020 14:11

We are all experts on viruses now.

[utrickytrees] 01/11/2020 13:45

I think Sage are having to assume no immunity because the only practical test for the presence of antibodies is white blood cell analysis. What Eaton is saying is that in reality immunity is being obtained fro T cells but because there is no easy way of testing TCell immunity they have to assume that it doesnt exist. This is fuking madness.

[utrickytrees] 01/11/2020 13:32

M2 good stuff! His theory/ figures do support the distribution of infection...the so called 2nd wave is actually the first wave in outlying areas. If London doesnt see a 2nd wave, I'm inclined to agree with him.....the virus is on it's way out.

[minerve 2] 01/11/2020 13:16

Utricky

I watched the video.

I think Mike Eaton makes decent argument however he states that other scientists are assuming people were not already inherently immune to the virus because their bodies had already had exposure to A coronavirus whereas he is assuming they are. The truth is either way we don't know for sure. He makes a valid argument on the T-Cell issue and I don't understand why more weight hasn't been thrown behind this argument. However, facts are facts, and hospitals in the North are being overloaded which may not be reason enough to have another nationwide lockdown but I haven't seen the figures for London and the SE.

[stonedyou] 01/11/2020 13:10

"It is people who are over 85 and those who are already unwell who account for the

vast majority of deaths. We must increase the number of staff in care homes by a

minimum of 20 per cent and set up specialist clinical teams to support them. And

we should prevent staff moving between care homes and taking the virus with them.

We must recognise, too, that a dangerous percentage of infections occur within

hospitals themselves and seek to guard against them. Hospital-acquired infections

may account for up to 25 per cent of Covid cases on the wards. In the North West

of England, they recently made up 24 per cent of all Covid patients."

[utrickytrees] 01/11/2020 13:03

S6, 12.43 TO 12.56 so it is possible you watched the link, but I'm fairly confident you havent lol.

EKU, some on here are living proof :)