Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[crazi] 16/10/2020 14:22

I reckon No Deal is already built in to the current prices anyway as the market expects the worst. If they made a deal there would be a quick large bounce.

[xxxxxy] 16/10/2020 14:21

Lockdown 1, 2, etc haven't worked. Lockdowns here, there and everywhere haven't worked. Now Circuit Breaker lockdown won't work as it is lockdown by another name. Do the science, logic and commonsense, if lockdowns haven't worked then any number of other lockdowns will not work either . Lockdown as a tool is not effective.  As an attempt, an experiment, lockdowns have been tried and have failed. But management could really help. Meaning shield the vulnerable and allow the rest to live, work and play and so effectively support themselves, their children and the vulnerable. Management please , not turning this virus into a political nonsense.

[k38] 16/10/2020 14:21

M2Unless you buy a house for your future son in law I can't see you, at your age, becoming grandad.. lol

[xxxxxy] 16/10/2020 14:19

Indeed. Strong leadership.AndGood intelligent Management.

[xxxxxy] 16/10/2020 14:17

EUSSR = Bad Faith.

[minerve 2] 16/10/2020 14:17

Buffett, Munger, Lynch et al excluded.

[minerve 2] 16/10/2020 14:16

Just like most grandads. 😏

[minerve 2] 16/10/2020 14:16

What do you know about the market k38?

FA, that's what.

LOL!

[minerve 2] 16/10/2020 14:15

Most Brexiters are * pensioners
i.e. 'recipients', not the powerhouse of the economy....
They will not be doing a single * thing in their index-linked world
And so many have died since 2016, they are a minority anyway
Get over yourself. Grandad's credibility is shot

[xxxxxy] 16/10/2020 14:14

Boris, don't rush. Cool head, take time. Dance to Christmas if needs be.No DealWTOCymru am byth.

[xxxxxy] 16/10/2020 14:12

In today's brief: Frost 'disappointed' at EU's lacklustre summit as Boris prepares statement to emphasise talk of a no-deal. Meanwhile, Barnier backtracks on EU's hardball and Macron tells UK to back down on fish or leave without a deal.Fiery Frost disappointed by summit conclusions: All eyes on Boris Johnson today as he mulls over his next steps on Brexit trade talks. Last night, the EU summit provided a less than enthusiastic conclusion, with EU leaders taking pleasure in playing around with the wording of their final assessment. Johnson had called for the EU to intensify talks with the UK in order to work towards a deal but the EU said it would just continue talks instead.David Frost tweeted out his disappointment with the EU summit conclusions saying he was "surprised" that the EU is no longer committed to working "intensively" to reach a future partnership, as was agreed with Ursula von der Leyen on October 3rd. Frost was also surprised by the suggestion that to get an agreement all future moves must come from the UK, calling it "an unusual approach to conducting a negotiation". He went on to say that the Prime Minister will set out the UK's reaction and approach later today in light of his statement from September 7th.Barnier backtracks: In the end, Michel Barnier came out and insisted he would speed up talks after member states got involved and removed the reference to intensifying talks from the summit conclusions. Barnier, turning a blind eye to the order of EU leaders, promised to intensify anyway during his press conference proposing two more weeks of negotiations in London and Brussels and insisting that there are "prospects of a deal". Talk about mixed messages! Although it is hardly surprising given the EU's struggle to find a unified position. Much like everything else the EU does, in the face of disagreement, they opted for just about the worst solution. Back down on fish or prepare for no-deal says Macron: Ultimately, the EU is just wasting time. Not wanting to be seen to dance to Boris Johnson's tune but wanting to be seen to placate Macron's ridiculous demands. EU leaders, led by France, dismayed Downing Street by calling Johnson's bluff on his threat to walk out of negotiations. Macron told the prime minister that he should prepare for a no-deal Brexit unless he was willing to concede a "good settlement", preserving fishing access for French boats in British waters. "If conditions aren't met it's possible we don't have an agreement. We are ready for that," Macron said.One EU source told Politico "we are playing hardball", a risky strategy given Frost's damming statement last night and the prospect of collapsing talks altogether. With Barnier seemingly suggesting that intensified talks can continue but EU leaders telling another story, the question becomes how fierce Boris wants to be in response. John Redwood has called on the UK to "withdraw any offer of a 3 year further transition for fish", Dan Hannan has called for the UK to withdraw from the Withdrawal Agreement and build no infrastructure at the Irish border and David C Bannerman believes that Boris can now go for no deal saying "with all the bad faith and game playing by the EU they sorely now deserve it." Boris to emphasise talk of no-deal: The FT seem to think that Boris is likely to force trade talks to a moment of crisis, as London claims that Brussels is dragging its feet by insisting that future concessions must come from the British side. British officials told them that the "atmospherics were not good" and that Johnson would make his statement today in which he will emphasise talk of a "no-deal" end to the transition period.Merkel is attempting to calm the chaos telling reporters that "We have asked Great Britain to continue to be willing to compromise towards an agreement. Of course, this also means that we have to make compromises." But no such talk of compromise from the sabre-rattler-in-chief Frenchman, who by taking up an ultimately untenable position, risks blowing the talks up.So, Macron is saying no-deal if the UK doesn't concede everything, Merkel is saying both sides need to compromise towards a deal and Barnier is saying negotiations are "not finished" yet. Simple, right? If this is the incredible unity that Guy Verhofstadt is cheering on, I'd hate to see what it looks like when they disagree!But Boris wants clarity for UK businesses and his hard deadline was set to do exactly that. I suspect we are far from the end of this saga and with both sides recognising a deal is in sight, it was always inevitable we'd get some fireworks. However, Boris now has to decide, does he stick to his guns and draw an end to this EU pantomime or does he leave businesses waiting and continue negotiating, compromising further to secure a deal.Truss continues work on Global Britain: As we prepare for the end of the transition period, Liz Truss is stepping up engagement with stakeholders across the UK as trade talks with Australia, New Zealand and the US proceed at pace. The advice from these groups will be used to help inform the government's trade policy agenda and help deliver benefits to all parts of the UK. To find out more about the trade agreements the UK has already signed and the ongoing discussions that are taking place, you can check here.EU simply cannot be trusted: On our site today the Chair of Conservatives for Liberty, Emily Barley warns the Prime Minister that the EU simply cannot be trusted as we enter the final stage of negotiation and calls on Boris to separate the UK from the corrupt EU. You can read the full article here.For the latest news and developments throughout the day, please do follow @GlobalVision_UK on Twitter.Thanks for reading, and enjoy the rest of your day.

[k38] 16/10/2020 14:11

Strong leadership is what market loves .

[minerve 2] 16/10/2020 14:10

Really?

LOL

[k38] 16/10/2020 14:06

M2 market is up on Boris stand on Brexit.

[k38] 16/10/2020 14:04

Lol.......

[k38] 16/10/2020 13:59

Stop worrying careful.. we are going to be fine.. unless you worry for the other side of the channel.... ;))

[careful] 16/10/2020 13:53

All of those lorries at Dover.
Tens of thousands, many millions per year.

Hard to believe that these windbag politician will change all of that commerce.


Australian deal...Australia is a small economy 12 miles away.
It is focussed on China.
whatever does an 'Australian deal' mean.

What idiots these politicians are.

Life will go on, on sleep the sane.

[k38] 16/10/2020 13:41

Mr elb, I may had agree if your opinion was not effected by the labour virus.

[scruff1] 16/10/2020 13:33

We should eat more fish. Very good for our resident fat jabbers. Could get a whole lot cheaper too.

[mr.elbee] 16/10/2020 13:09

No k38 we have our OWN dictators much much worse

[minerve 2] 16/10/2020 13:05

Says k38 who is successful in what exactly?

What have you done for us to put weight on your opinion? ;)

Picture tumbleweed rolling across a Mid-west ghost town. :)

[k38] 16/10/2020 13:02

Brexit is good for Britain, the covid-19 is not. But that's not a reason to give up to dictators in Brussels.