Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[cheshire pete] 16/10/2020 10:54

Alphorn 872: "fluffy, nebulous reply"....lol, have been consistent and clear on this board since May did the dirty on us.

Just to be clear I don't give a tinker's cuss what happens to the FTSE or LLOY if Boris does the right thing and walks no deal. I have no positions in the indices and comfortable with a broad based portfolio with a bias towards shares that should do well in COVID times.

Not bothered if LLOY go to Buywell's 15p, though he's uprated it to 20p now. He may be right but personally haven't a clue. Clear enough for you?

BTW what are your positions?

[xxxxxy] 16/10/2020 10:53

Their laws? Their judges? Their territory? Our money? No. No. No. No.The bullying, bad faith EU once again shows it doesn't understand freedom, democracy, and independence?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020You must take back control today, Prime Minister, and walk awayYesterday the EU Council of 27 leaders met in Brussels. Brexit was the first item on the agenda after COVID-19. In an extraordinary statement, the EU essentially told the UK to kneel to its demands."UK must make 'necessary moves' towards a deal, say EU leaders"?© EU CouncilThe EU Council's statement in fullEuropean Council conclusions on EU-UK relations, 15 October 2020II. EU-UK relations[Emphasis added by Brexit Facts4EU.Org.]4. The European Council recalls that the transition period will end on 31 December 2020 and notes with concern that progress on the key issues of interest to the Union is still not sufficient for an agreement to be reached.5. The European Council reaffirms the Union's determination to have as close as possible a partnership with the United Kingdom on the basis of the negotiating directives of 25 February 2020, while respecting the previously agreed European Council guidelines, as well as statements and declarations, notably those of 25 November 2018, in particular as regards the level playing field, governance and fisheries.6. Against this background, the European Council invites the Union?s chief negotiator to continue negotiations in the coming weeks, and calls on the UK to make the necessary moves to make an agreement possible.7. As regards the Internal Market Bill tabled by the UK government, the European Council recalls that the Withdrawal Agreement and its Protocols must be fully and timely implemented.8. 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If we can't agree by then, then I do not see that there will be a free trade agreement between us, and we should both accept that and move on."The EU Council's statement yesterday can only be construed as another bad faith position by an organisation seemingly intent on punishing the British people, in contravention of the Withdrawal Treaty. 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[scruff1] 16/10/2020 10:51

m2
I with you on that one. Plus its not fair inflicting my legs on the public. Got enough on their plate at the moment

[gbh2] 16/10/2020 10:36

That said, I also bought a lot more Lloyds shares yesterday, judging by today's share price movement I'm beginning to doubt my sanity :(

[scruff1] 16/10/2020 10:35

Actually I havent got a clue what hes called. But thats all hes ever been known as

[scruff1] 16/10/2020 10:33

Chavi
forgot to say 68 next week.
gbh
Good lad. I have a mate who does the same. He's called Billy Shorts

[utrickytrees] 16/10/2020 10:27

Lb it must be a liberal flu strain.

[gbh2] 16/10/2020 10:27

Don't be fooled, I'm in my 70s and wear shorts most of the year :)

[essentialinvestor] 16/10/2020 10:26

Fwiw there are numerous reports Macron and Johnson get along very well.


Today was the day we were Definitely walking away is there was no agreement. Let's see!.

[chavitravi2] 16/10/2020 10:21

And there was me perceiving you to be middle aged scruff. How old are you?

[mr.elbee] 16/10/2020 10:11

he is made of jelly

[scruff1] 16/10/2020 09:48

Not sure dates mean owt. If they decide to change em - they will. After all I was in short pants and too young to vote in the referendum

[alphorn] 16/10/2020 09:36

Ut - made me smile. (Don't underestimate the Russians though, ruthless when necessary. They have been very quiet for some years).

You just have to visit the Vilnius cemetery to see the results of the January 1991 invasion of a, then, independent country.

[alphorn] 16/10/2020 09:32

Getting close to 31/12/20 so you are right. ;)

[utrickytrees] 16/10/2020 09:31

Alphorn if youd ever been to Russia youd realise that this so called fake news you pass off as gospel, is merely editorial high jinx. The Russians have a wicked sense of humour they actually love your hero Mr Humphries off are you being served, you & the Russians probably have more in common than you would think!

[maxk] 16/10/2020 09:31

The sense of entitlement by the frogs is breathtaking.

[scruff1] 16/10/2020 09:29

I certainly think the EU have seen how Doris has chopped and changed with his Covid response and with it has gone their view of him as a strong decisive leader. It seems they are back to their 'do as we say' approach. We should find out later today what he is made of. Personally if I were him I would walk away and see what happens. Nowt worse than a ditherer dressed up a leader. Easy for me though. But this malarky cant go on indefinitely - can it !

[alphorn] 16/10/2020 09:28

............because of the EU grants? Good idea. Lol

[geckotheglorious] 16/10/2020 09:28

UK needs to walk.
Just walk.

[meek] 16/10/2020 09:21

Don't desert us sensible Scots and leave us to live with this crazy witch that's destroying our country.