Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[alphorn] 13/9/2020 12:43

'arrogant and hugely embittered' = switch off.

[minerve 2] 13/9/2020 12:38

"in the national interest minerve"

But it isn't in the national interest, you Atlantic cod.

[spookies] 13/9/2020 11:09

There was a time LLOY was around £7. I remember buying some back then. Who ever said investing in the stock market was a long term thing, maybe for wealth destruction.

[xxxxxy] 13/9/2020 10:48

Seems the EUSSR is not worth spitting on. Absolutely pointless talking to them.No DealWTO

[xxxxxy] 13/9/2020 10:47

Freeborn JohnPosted September 13, 2020 at 7:27 am | PermalinkIf the EU stick with their ultimatum the whole of the WA should be repudiated. The country has lots of things to spend £40bn on than giving it away for nothing to hostile countries That want to disrupt food supplies to NI.?NigelPosted September 13, 2020 at 7:38 am | PermalinkThe EU is refusing to negotiate on the details of a trade agreement until and unless there is an agreement on fishing rights (which they apparently will only agree on their own terms). Is that "acting in good faith"?

[alphorn] 13/9/2020 10:30

cheshire - yes, since 2016.

[mr.elbee] 13/9/2020 10:03

none diku and none for social distancing or the lockdown either.

[xxxxxy] 13/9/2020 09:59

Rishi Sunak plans massive business tax breaks to spur investmentMove would enable companies to deduct costs of technology, machinery and industrial premises from bills... Jenny Lamont12 Sep 2020 11:15PMHowever none of any tax cutting measures will be possible unless the Internal Market Bill becomes law as draftedThe EU will control taxes associated with competition through their State Aid interpretation in the WAThat is why Boris must succeed and they must be disapplied... Daily Telegraph

[diku] 13/9/2020 09:58

Post 11998...ever wonder why share price falls are more dramatic in % terms and rises are more muted?...is the market mechanism set up such just to suck money in?...







For the majority of investors mentioned above, they expect fluctuations but not a reduction in capital value of 60%, not from supposedly blue chip secure stock anyway.

[diku] 13/9/2020 09:41

Post 11996 and 11998...If only there was somebody out there to ring the bell to get out!!...PI's get very emotionally attached with household names aka...LLoy, Barc, BT, BP etc etc so its difficult to part company...particularly when they are/were paying divis and share price is going up in their favour...hoping it keeps going up up up and when it starts going down ... they hope it will turns around soon which turns into infinity only to see it going down down deeper deeper down...but has anybody wondered the vast amount of O trades (PI's) going through across the entire markets (including AIM) at any given day?...think lot of punters are turning into junky traders as the appeal for long term investment is fading by the day...or already it has...





Its easy to blame the CEO for our own investment mistakes. As mentioned earlier, we should have all sold at 50p.

[grahamite2] 13/9/2020 09:22

Actually, Max...it's good enough to post twice! If they really mean it.

Undoubtedly the evil work of "Human Rights" law was a major factor in the referendum going the way it did.

[maxk] 13/9/2020 09:11

Sorry graham, had missed it..

[diku] 13/9/2020 09:04

Think there must be a book out there called...Dummies guide to Coronavirus...





What scientific evidence is there that six persons is safe, whereas seven persons leads to the NHS becoming overwhelmed – which, after all, was the only rationale for the emergency measures in the first place?

[xxxxxy] 13/9/2020 09:01

Why I support the UK Single market BillBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: SEPTEMBER 13, 2020I have stated why I think this Bill is necessary and legal. Let me remind those who write to me to complain about the draft legislation.The EU Withdrawal Agreement left open a solution to the borders and customs issues in Northern Ireland. The Irish Protocol is at best ambiguous. There is no single interpretation or right understanding of it, as it sought to bridge differences and leave a further period of negotiation to settle the future relationship in a way which would deal with the outstanding issues. Many of the problems would fall away were the EU to accept the UK Free Trade proposal which is included in the Political declaration signed by both parties.Thus the Protocol is introduced by a series of propositions which include"Nothing in this Protocol prevents the UK from having unfettered market access for goods moving from Northern Ireland to the rest of the UK's internal market."""Underlining the Union's and UK's shared aim of avoiding controls at the ports and airports of Northern Ireland to the extent possible in accordance with applicable legislation and taking into account the respective regulatory regimes""Recalling that Northern Ireland is part of the customs territory of the UK and will benefit from participation in the UK's independent trade policy""Having regard to the importance of maintaining the integral place of Northern Ireland in the UK's internal market"So the Agreement accepted the UK could diverge in regulations, and there would be no barriers to trade between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK, which is what this Bill seeks to implement. The Agreement also put in various Union requirements which they now wish to highlight at the expense of these UK protections.In case there is doubt, as there are some conflicts with other aims and clauses in the Agreement, Section 38 of the UK's EU Withdrawal Act provides for a UK Parliamentary override of the provisions if necessary.Mrs May and her advisers would not accept such a UK provision, as they thought it meant we would not properly implement the Agreement. The EU sustained no objection when this crucial safeguard was inserted and passed. They must have known it meant conditional or qualified implementation. Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed was a sensible mantra. I would not have voted for withdrawal without the crucial sovereignty override as I made clear at the time. I also made clear I expected we would need to use it if the EU did not proceed to an FTA respecting our sovereignty.I also now have confirmed that the UK government also thinks it is acting legally.Speaking in the House of Lords, Lord Keen a Law Officer in the government said: 'I continue in post and continue to advise, encourage and stipulate adherence to the rule of law – understanding that, from time to time, very real tensions can emerge between our position in domestic law and our position in international law.'It is not unprecedented for legislation passed by this parliament to cut across obligations taken at the level of international law. In those circumstances, domestic legislation prevails"Both the Lord Chancellor and the Attorney General stay in post and have been party to the discussions on the draft legislation. The statement by the Northern Ireland Secretary is not a view shared by many, and is not as significant as the clear understanding of the Law Officers that the government is behaving legally.

[grahamite2] 13/9/2020 09:00

See #314405!

[maxk] 13/9/2020 08:54

Boris Johnson set to opt out of human rights laws

Prime Minister to open second confrontation with EU in bid to ease migrant deportation cases

By
Edward Malnick,
SUNDAY POLITICAL EDITOR
12 September 2020 • 9:30pm