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[alphorn] 20/8/2019 14:26

123Trev - I don't know why you have to have an answer from Minerve on your currency question. It is a very poor attempt at a windup. Why don't you get off your backside and research it yourself if you are interested - there is plenty of commentary.

[alex1621] 20/8/2019 14:01

Cheshire's got a "shed full of tins" yet calls it all "project fear"? If it's all a big lie why did he bother to stock up? The "I'm alright Jack mentality" is alive and well with Brexit lovers. Boris and Co. have had some fun trying to convince us all that no deal is inevitable and unstoppable ... but next week he's going to get a taste of parliamentary reality ... with no deal off the menu.

[jordaggy] 20/8/2019 13:48

Rothschild!!!

[ladeside] 20/8/2019 13:46

Looks like the little Brexiteers are not going to get their way with the big bad Europeans !!

Oh dear, unfortunately it will be ALL of us who end up paying the price for their stupidity, arrogance and misplaced superiority complex..........

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 13:29

123Trev

I don’t fear political union, fiscal union or monetary union. I am a European progressive.

Does that answer your concerns?

[k38] 20/8/2019 13:24

Baroness Thatcher was way ahead of her time and her predictions on the EU have near enough all been what has happened, one thing is for certain though: we'll never get a leader like Margaret Thatcher again, at least not any time soon. https://www.brugesgroup.com/blog/how-maggie-was-right-on-europe-decades-ago

[123trev] 20/8/2019 13:22

Minerve,that reply indicates that you feel there is something to be caught Out? It’s a simple but fundamental question and should be at the heart of any discussion here and yet isn’t!

[careful] 20/8/2019 13:20

k38
Maggie was right.
But how she would have loved to get a chance to vote for Mays deal.
About 4/5 years ago the EU. sceptics would have loved to sign up for Mays deal in total.

Mays deal is a great deal, I cannot believe it will fail because of some posturing about the damned Irish border.

Boris or someone else will have to find a way of pushing it through, or Brexit could be lost forever.

[k38] 20/8/2019 13:17

In her Bruges Speech, the go to speech for Eurosceptics, like ourselves, Thatcher laid out how "Europe will be stronger because it has France as France, Spain as Spain and Britain as Britain – each with its own customs, traditions and identity." However, that isn't the case now and the EU wish to create a single identity with a single currency and a central bank, essentially basing their model on the United States of America.

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 13:16

How DARE Boris have the AUDACITY to suggest that the backstop risks undermining the Norther Irish peace process.

It is there PRECISELY TO PROTECT IT.

Being held to ransom by the vile ERG bunch within his own party who will only be content with the hardest of Brexits, and don't give a monkeys if that means a border in Ireland and a return to the 'Troubles'.

Disgraceful..

[k38] 20/8/2019 13:13

One of Maggie's most remembered speech is of course her Bruges Speech in 1988 where she made clear the EEC planned on political union rather than an economic community. The Iron Lady spoke of how "we have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state here in Britain, only to be reimposed at European level with a European superstructure exercising a new dominance from Brussels." However, it seems that those frontiers of the state are being reimposed on a grand scale in the EU, only this time it is Mr Juncker instead of Mr Delors. Thatcher knew fine well that the EEC was heading towards a political union, especially with Delors as the appointed Commissioner, the superstructure that she spoke about is more evident now more than ever with plans for a EU central defence policy and further integration proposed by Emmanuel Macron and plans already put into motion by Chancellor Merkel. The EU is becoming more and more centralised and as Thatcher emphasised with the point of European nations spending years battling the Soviet Union with its centralised bureaucracy only to move power closer to Brussels following 1992.

[k38] 20/8/2019 13:08

One of Maggie's most remembered speech is of course her Bruges Speech in 1988 where she made clear the EEC planned on political union rather than an economic community. The Iron Lady spoke of how "we have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state here in Britain, only to be reimposed at European level with a European superstructure exercising a new dominance from Brussels." However, it seems that those frontiers of the state are being reimposed on a grand scale in the EU, only this time it is Mr Juncker instead of Mr Delors. Thatcher knew fine well that the EEC was heading towards a political union, especially with Delors as the appointed Commissioner, the superstructure that she spoke about is more evident now more than ever with plans for a EU central defence policy and further integration proposed by Emmanuel Macron and plans already put into motion by Chancellor Merkel. The EU is becoming more and more centralised and as Thatcher emphasised with the point of European nations spending years battling the Soviet Union with its centralised bureaucracy only to move power closer to Brussels following 1992.

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 13:06

123Trev

Your question is not looking for my opinion, you are attempting to catch me out.

Nice try. :)

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 12:57

And Trev, whilst you are at it, just post as Jacko07. We know it's you!

LOL

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 12:56

I gave you my answer but perhaps this one is better:

The EU wouldn't put the Queen's head on the €.

LOL

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 12:52

Sorry, were the EU asking for us to drop the £?

[123trev] 20/8/2019 12:50

Minerve, why did we not adopt the Euro as our currency is the question asked?

[minerve 2] 20/8/2019 12:43

123Trev

Just to let you know the € was on it’s way to becoming a currency that would compete with the $. China was a large buyer, filling up it’s foreign reserves in preference to the $. The US went out of its way to attempt to kill the €’s strength via timely notes from rating agencies and it’s agents like the IMF. The £ was not in this battle.

That should tell you all you need to know about the £ VS €.

And before you band on about sovereign monetary policy the US seem to cope with it and yet it has just as much disparate economies as Europe.