Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[glavey] 28/7/2019 00:21

gaffer, you need to maintain a more positive view; it will go up or it will go down.

[gaffer73] 27/7/2019 20:15

So it might go up or it might go down.

[grahamite2] 27/7/2019 19:55

Minerve, I agree and think this issue even more important than Brexit. The essence of representative democracy is that contenders tell you what they plan to do and you select the one you like most/dislike least. If they do the opposite of what they promised, it reduces putting your cross in a box to a lottery; it means democracy has ceased to exist.

Directors who publish a false prospectus can be jailed for it. The dishonest MPs have misled not just a few investors but a whole country.

[maxk] 27/7/2019 19:43

#26 and #27, both right


SWOON!

[minerve 2] 27/7/2019 19:42

100 virgins for every Brexiter.

Shame they will turn out male. LOL

[minerve 2] 27/7/2019 19:28

grahamite2

I think any party should have to commit to their manifesto. There should be a mechanism for challenge to see that it is done - best endeavours. Probably difficult to execute in practice but we cannot have any political party ditching manifestos or changing PM without greater challenge in parliament and/or a GE.

[grahamite2] 27/7/2019 19:24

I agree with Minerve - Jo Swinson is right. Why should the result of a referendum change your own personal opinion? And it is right that there should be a Party to represent remain. If all Parties had the same view, what would be the point of them?

No LibDem MP was elected on a false prospectus. Everyone who voted for them knew exactly what they were getting. Very different from the con artists in the Conservative Party who stood for one thing and did the opposite. They should be in jail.

[minerve 2] 27/7/2019 19:23

Given BJ’s previous on spaffing money up the wall, I’m deeply sceptical of the delivery and value for money of any promise he makes about spending.

Garden bridge, anyone? Routemaster bus? Water cannon? ArcelorMittal Orbit? Emirates cable car? I’m just reeling them off the top of my head, I’m sure there’s many, many more.

The man is a spaffer par excellence.

[minerve 2] 27/7/2019 19:20

Boris in full election mode.

How many £bns of future issue government bonds has he now spent?

Bloody hell, amazing. Why didn't previous governments write the cheque?

Tip: What is likely to happen when governments flood markets with bond issuance?

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Minerve No 1 ADVFN investor.

[minerve 2] 27/7/2019 19:11

And 100 virgins for every man after Brexit.

ROFLMAO!

Spot the similarities with other deluded males?

[poikka] 27/7/2019 19:11

Sounds as if they're getting desperate.

[xxxxxy] 27/7/2019 19:10

On.or. Before.LEAVE and WTO

[minerve 2] 27/7/2019 19:09

Boris this, Boris that. Shouldn't other cabinet officials be releasing policy news?

One would think we are a dictatorship and government and parliament don't exist.

Shut up Boris, let one of your stooges say something.

[xxxxxy] 27/7/2019 18:58

The next Prime Minister and the EU

By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: MAY 25, 2019

The next Prime Minister has one immediate and urgent task – to get us out of the EU. Unless the Conservative party delivers soon on its promise in 2017 to take us out the substantial loss of votes to the Brexit party suggested in recent Westminster polls will be confirmed or may accelerate. We are long past the position where we need a new leader to find a compromise between Leave and Remain, or who thinks that a few tweaks to the Withdrawal Agreement will enable it to pass. Only getting us out by October 31st at the latest is going to get the government and the party the right to a hearing again from voters, and the space and authority to press forward with all the many policies we can then offer based on the freedoms Brexit delivers.

Any new Leader has to understand the depth and range of feeling in the country that the outgoing government and the official opposition have let the country down badly, by delaying, diluting and querying the whole idea of Brexit. We have just witnessed a huge tidal wave of support for getting on with leaving, and against signing the Withdrawal Agreement. Mrs May’s Agreement was designed in Brussels by the EU, and met with great opposition from Leave and Remain voters alike.

I tried hard over many months to persuade her to go back to the EU and tell them the Agreement could not be sold to UK voters and had to be changed. I argued with her to stand up to the EU and tell them if necessary we would just leave without signing the Agreement. In the later stages of her tenure as PM I urged her to do herself a favour by dropping the Agreement, to ease the obvious strains on her of the repeated disagreements and negative votes. I was amazed at her resilience in defence of a proposal which the country had already rejected by a large margin, and which this Parliament was unlikely to accept.

Some say we cannot leave without signing the Agreement because Parliament will not allow it. The only hope this Parliament has to reconnect with voters who have left both main parties in droves is to leave. A new PM can do so. Best would be to go to the EU, say we have messed them around for too long and we wish to leave immediately. If the EU agrees it can be done as the delay in our exit was done by agreement between the new UK government and the EU. We should offer a comprehensive free trade agreement which would enable us to leave with no new tariffs or trade barriers whilst over the months after exit we seek to work out and sign the detailed proposal.

If the EU would not agree to an immediate exit, then we need to wait until 31 October. Parliament has legislated for our exit then. A new PM just has to ensure Parliament does not legislate to keep us in. Government has plenty of powers to do just that, which Mrs May declined to use last time because she had herself decided she wanted to delay our exit if she could not have her way and sign the Agreement.

[alphorn] 27/7/2019 18:58

Freddie - nuts (if that is what she said).

[hernando2] 27/7/2019 18:48

Alp so because others have it we should say it’s ok for the EU to copy them and promulgate those t and c s , time to take a stand IMO