Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[grahamite2] 17/7/2019 12:43

I agree with you there Minerve - it is foolish to overestimate the prospects of The Brexit Party in a first past the post system.

However, it does represent an existential threat to the Conservative Party, something which only the most wild-eyed fanatics will ignore. The Conservatives must deliver Brexit or face oblivion.

[smartypants] 17/7/2019 12:33

devout Brexiter?... well it is some kind of religion to these nut cases

Hammond calls Rees-Mogg no-deal Brexit remarks 'scary'

United Kingdom Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond said on Wednesday that he thinks it is "scary" that devout Brexiter Jacob Rees-Mogg fails to see the negative economic impact of the UK leaving the European Union without a trade deal.

Hammond was responding to Rees-Mogg's article in the Telegraph where he wrote that a no-deal Brexit could give an £80 billion boost to the UK economy. Furthermore, Rees-Mogg called Hammond's concerns over a no-deal Brexit "pure silliness."

Hammond said in a tweet: "Happy to debate scale of negative impact of No Deal on the economy - but terrifying that someone this close to a potential future government can think we’d actually be better off by adding barriers to access to our largest market."

The chancellor is leading a group of MPs who are trying to prevent the UK from exiting the EU without an agreement with Brussels. He said earlier that London wouldn't be able to "control" a no-deal Brexit.

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United Kingdom Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay said on Wednesday that the prospect of Britain leaving the European Union is "underpriced" and is more likely to happen than most people think.

Despite....

Despite insisting the no-deal scenario is not likely to happen, Johnson, who is seen as the favorite to succeed Theresa May as UK prime minister claimed that Britain will be prepared to leave the EU without a deal by the current October 31 deadline.

Meanwhile, media reports said that Johnson could suspend Parliament for two weeks in October to prevent lawmakers from blocking a no-deal Brexit.

“suspend Parliament”.. very democratic!

How can the UK actually be better off by adding barriers to access to the UK’s “largest market"??

Hey it will hurt them more than it does the UK...right?

[minerve 2] 17/7/2019 12:32

We are not worried about The Brexit Party - they can do whatever they want. That is a Tory problem. I think they overestimate the power of this activist group.

[minerve 2] 17/7/2019 12:30

I like to see how those MPs can back No-Deal because if they don't they are "going against democracy" when they know the most likely method of achieving it is closing down parliament. That position is hypocrisy and is untenable.

[grahamite2] 17/7/2019 12:20

However in a major boost to Mr Johnson, ten Labour MPs said they would back no-deal.

Sarah Champion, the Labour MP for Leave-supporting Rotherham, said Parliament would be “going against democracy” if it tries to stop Brexit.

She is joined by other Labour MPs including Caroline Flint and Emma Lewell-Buck, who said they are prepared to back a no deal Brexit if necessary.



I think we can be more optimistic now than at any time in the last 3 years.

[grahamite2] 17/7/2019 12:02

Actually the realpolitik is this: if Hunt gets it, the next opinion poll will show the Conservatives back at 9% and The Brexit Party way out in front. If Boris gets it and fails to deliver, ditto.

[alphorn] 17/7/2019 11:57

No problem to me either.

[minerve 2] 17/7/2019 11:52

Euro army seems a good idea to me. The chimps don't seem to have had a problem with NATO and our revised Challenger tanks are going to be half-German made anyway.

Some people really need a reality check and a clearing of 50 year old prejudices, it is damaging.

[xxxxxy] 17/7/2019 11:13

Brussels is where Democracy goes to die.Democracy and Freedom are priceless.LEAVE and WTOAnd save 39 billion for the British People

[alphorn] 17/7/2019 10:41

cheshire - 'realpolitik' will hugely influence them both. Much more of the story to run.

[cheshire pete] 17/7/2019 10:33

Alphorn: The situation with Boris and Hunt is not imv as you describe. They are different. Hunt has remain written all over him, he voted remain and if he did get in, then yes he could weaken on promises and commitments as realpolitik kicks in.
In Boris's case, he has everything to gain and nothing to lose by going for no deal. He is the saviour of the Tory Party, if he weakens under realpolitik they are finished and we'll have jezza. He and his advisors know this. The Brexit party success in the EU elections was pivotal. Yes, he will have the might of the establishment, rebel MPs etc. in his way and who knows what booby traps May, Hammond, no.10 staff and Civil Servants loyal to them might be planting. Perhaps he should send 'forensics' into no. 10 first lol.

[block4gooner] 17/7/2019 10:11

https://mol.im/a/7253985Could increase share price with the link up with Schroeders?

[alphorn] 17/7/2019 10:07

Just 14 days to wait for the Lloy results.

[poikka] 17/7/2019 10:07

Well Ursula VdL didn't get a resounding majority, but plenty enough. Not too fussed but don't think that she's a great choice.

In fact, I'll say now that I think she may not last the course.

[maxk] 17/7/2019 10:05

Bright idea of the week...





Rubbish-tip 'tax' for households prompts fears of a surge in dumping







Sarah Knapton Jessica Carpani
16 JULY 2019 • 9:30PM



Councils have begun charging householders to dump waste at rubbish tips, it has emerged, leading the Government to launch a review into the arbitrary fees.

Some 47 local authorities now insist on payments including Buckinghamshire council, which released a new “price list” this month demanding up to £20 for items including boilers, taps, lavatory seats, fence posts, plasterboard, pond liners and wood burners.

Likewise in June, gardeners in Kent were hit with £4 charges for disposing of bags of soil or rubble, while households in Devon must now pay £3.90 for dumping shower trays and tyres.

Councils claim they are under no obligation to accept “non-household waste”




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[alphorn] 17/7/2019 10:00

Prices in the capital slumped by 4.4% year-on-year in May, the ONS reports, worse than the 1.7% decline recorded in April. That’s the weakest performance since August 2009, after the financial crisis, when prices slumped by 7% year-on-year.

Always takes 1 - 2 years before reality sets in. In a basket of currency term they are seriously down.

In the 1990's with the slump I bought several flats at around half the price that the previous owner paid.

May have a negative impact on Lloy but doubt there will be the need for any provisions.

[poikka] 17/7/2019 09:55

MrE - think it was after she moved to South Shields ;)

[diku] 17/7/2019 09:25

Blair was craving for EU leadership role...

[bargainbob] 17/7/2019 09:14

Shy tott Gordon Brown , I know his history , that gets kept under wraps. Maybe it's just Labour Scots.

Then there is Exlogiclad.lol

[maxk] 17/7/2019 09:10

ST.

It's not Bliar we have to worry about, more like Soros in disguise.

[maxk] 17/7/2019 09:08

Alp. Same here.

[alphorn] 17/7/2019 09:07

max - straight answer - I don't know.

[shy tott] 17/7/2019 09:05

Max, you may not like the man, but don't take away Blair's world class talents. He's up there in the top ten in history for mass murders of completely innocent humans.