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[bargainbob] 23/6/2019 12:29

Gold finger you are way off . The English sector thanks to Blair means English waters stretches as far as St Andrews, though does not comply with international law. Sadly for England the oil is further north . Not to mention the untapped West coast .

[bargainbob] 23/6/2019 12:26

Can you imagine if the roles were reversed and all the decisions in the "UK" were made in Edinburgh and England only had "unreserved powers" in their pretendy Parliament at Westminster?

Can you imagine if the majority of people in England voted Tory but they were constantly getting ruled by a SNP Government that Scotland voted for...

Also imagine If in 2016 they had still voted to leave the EU but Scotland out-voted them so they were made to stay despite the majority of their population (62%) wanting to leave.

What self-respecting nation would accept this sorry state of affairs?

Not many I imagine!

But this is what Scottish people accept on a daily basis....

[waldron] 23/6/2019 12:24

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would you guys know how much scottish oil revenues have help to support the uk


alas it was frittered away unlike norways sovereign fund




Thanks to those making sensible posts

carry on having fun and enjoying your day

i guess one thing we can agree upon, British Oil revenues are diminishing or so it seems

Lets hope that decommissioning costs are low and they can turn whats left of the oil rig platforms into enviromement enclaves powered by wind and or solar energy

[maxk] 23/6/2019 12:11

It's in the Guardian, so it must be true!




Tory faithful trust Johnson more than Hunt, says poll

Conservative voters regard the favourite as better at making decisions and negotiation


Toby Helm Political editor

Sat 22 Jun 2019 21.21 BST





Boris Johnson is more trusted by Tory members to make big decisions and negotiate with the EU than Jeremy Hunt – as well as being regarded as more competent than the current foreign secretary – according to the latest Opinium poll for The Observer.

The findings reinforce Johnson’s position as the strong favourite to succeed Theresa May when Tory party members vote on who should be the next prime minister in the coming weeks. Last week Conservative MPs voted to send Johnson and Hunt into the final round of the contest.

Some 47% of Conservative voters say they would trust Johnson most to make big decisions, against 33% who choose Hunt. The gap is even wider on Brexit, with 57% preferring Johnson to negotiate Brexit than his rival who is chosen by just 26%.

When respondents were asked who was most competent, the result was closer, with 49% saying Johnson and 44% Hunt.

The polling was carried out last week before news broke that the police had been called to the London flat in which Johnson lives with his partner Carrie Symonds, following a late-night row between the couple.

The Opinium survey shows the extent of the challenge facing the next Tory leader. It puts Labour back in the lead on 26% (up 4 points compared with last month), while the Brexit party is second on 23% (down three) and the Tories languishing in third on 20% (up three). The Liberal Democrats are unchanged on 16%.

When given a binary option about next steps they would like to see on Brexit, almost half (48%) of UK adults now think the UK should leave the European Union with “no deal” on October 31st if the House of Commons cannot agree on a deal by then. Only 40% want to delay Brexit and hold a public vote.

[goldfinger16] 23/6/2019 12:06

Scotland get a very good deal from the UK, Sturgeon is dangerous and the SNP make Corbyn seem less Marxist.

Re: The Barnett formula under international law the border between countries is extended along the average line. This will project into the North Sea at a North East angle so the majority of UK oil would actually be in the English sector. But, as we are still the UK the oil belongs to all nations in the UK

In a submission to Westminster last year a "guesstimate" that over the next decade the annual values could be in the £5bn to £8bn range. Scotland receive more back from the UK taxpayer.

The Better Together campaign's Alistair Darling said: "Oil is great for Scotland. Nobody would suggest otherwise.

But to wager a country's economic future on such a volatile and declining resource just isn't credible. It is time that the nationalists were straight on this."

[careful] 23/6/2019 11:55

The oil used to be an important contributor way back in Thatchers day.
Unfortunately the value of Scottish oil today is far less.
The oil price is hugely down in real terms, and the difficulty and expense of operating in the North Sea make it barely worth producing.

Scots argue that oil and whisky are wealth creators, but they are not as strong as in the past.

The Scots get subsidised by the English mainland by billions because of the so called Barnet formula. The argument being that Scotland has many deprived areas.

Most independent economist believe that Scotland would struggle to make ends meet if it broke from the UK, but it would depend upon factors such as how much of the UK national debt would it assume, what currency would it use, and what sort of trade deal could it negotiate with its biggest trading partner, England. (oh no not that again.)

[stewart64] 23/6/2019 11:55

I would imagine that Scotland has paid for the extra benefits it receives from oil revenue. Not sure if that would still be the case going forward with dwindling reserves and decarbonisation. Still has an advantage on wind resource. Wouldn't take the risk if I was a Scot on independence as they are so dependent on public sector exports to the UK...HMRC, DSS, National Savings etc.these jobs would be scaled back dramatically. It would be a nightmare for England too trying to decouple shared public sector employment. That's before we come to the benefits bill per capita which is just horrendous.

[grupo] 23/6/2019 11:33

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[grupo] 23/6/2019 11:26

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would you guys know how much scottish oil revenues have help to support the uk

alas it was frittered away unlike norways sovereign fund

waldron...BRITISH OIL REVENUES, just like BRITISH TAXPAYER FUNDS ALLOW SCOTLAND THEIR HUGE PER PERSON FREEBIES.


yours is a stupid response but that means they are paying their way

i believe the oil revenues covers scotland expenses and more


as always someone asks a sensible question only to get an idiot reply

[corby3] 23/6/2019 11:20

would you guys know how much scottish oil revenues have help to support the uk

alas it was frittered away unlike norways sovereign fund

waldron...BRITISH OIL REVENUES, just like BRITISH TAXPAYER FUNDS ALLOW SCOTLAND THEIR HUGE PER PERSON FREEBIES.

[xxxxxy] 23/6/2019 11:09

Boris the Big Beast. LOVE him. Will make a great PM.

BORIS BORIS BORIS for PM

LEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 23/6/2019 11:08

The EU confirms it is ready for UK exit in October without the Withdrawal treaty

By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JUNE 23, 2019

In the run up to our exit planned for 29 March 2019 the EU passed a number of measures to ensure continuity if the UK left without signing the Withdrawal Treaty. Measures included an aviation agreement to ensure the planes fly, a haulage agreement to allow road transport to continue, a rail agreement, “legal certainty for ship operators”, compensation for EU fishing businesses if they lose access to UK waters, continuity for students currently in the Erasmus programme, and more time for the Peace and Interreg programmes for Ireland and Northern Ireland.

In the update produced for the recent EU Council they also noted that rights of UK citizens currently legally settled in the rest of the EU will be protected. They are ensuring medicines and Reach approved chemicals can continue to be traded, and have increased customs capacity at UK facing ports and transport centres to handle any need to introduce tariffs.

This of course all goes largely unreported by the Remain facing UK media, who carry on with silly scare stories based on an imaginary exit with none of these agreements in place.

[diku] 23/6/2019 11:02

Panelbase?...Are these the guys who stand with a clip board at shopping centres?...or do they call you at random?...anybody here been approached for a Political survey questionnaire...




The Panelbase survey of 1,024 voters, conducted last week, confirms the worst fears of close allies of Scots Tory leader Ruth Davidson — pointing to a six-point lead for the “yes” campaign if, as expected, the former London mayor succeeds Theresa May.

[maxk] 23/6/2019 11:01

UK needs a leader who will stand up for Brexit

PRITI PATEL AND IAIN DUNCAN SMITH
Follow 22 JUNE 2019 • 10:15PM




In the last three years, the British government and the UK parliament have successfully turned our country into an international laughing stock, humiliated by the EU’s negotiators. Mrs May and her Cabinet are chiefly responsible for this. They claimed to want to reach a consensus and swore that in taking this approach they were acting in the interests of Britain. Yet after three rejections by Parliament, their strategy failed.


Their search for what they termed consensus, ended with the UK bound to pay some £40bn to the EU whilst being locked into an arrangement we couldn’t leave unless the EU let us.


As Margaret Thatcher said: “... consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs,...

[waldron] 23/6/2019 10:55

would you guys know how much scottish oil revenues have help to support the uk


alas it was frittered away unlike norways sovereign fund

[bargainbob] 23/6/2019 10:49

Rubbish Hernando . Not one country that got independence from Britain wants to turn the clocks back. That includes Australia, New Zealand , Canada, USA and Little Malta to name a few .

[hernando2] 23/6/2019 10:42

Well as a fellow Scot based in England..i think you are best gone...take your higher taxes and spend them as you see fit, the only real issue is will the Treasury let you use the pound as an interim measure until you get the Euro..

Populism in Scotland ( SNP) will be the death of the country as it is in all other countries.