Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[shy tott] 20/6/2019 18:49

Mr elbee, I did not say anyone could do aho's job.

Please don't misquote me - that's twice you've done that today.

[maxk] 20/6/2019 18:07

Gove 75 (out)

Hunt 77

Johnson 160

[alphorn] 20/6/2019 17:27

"Prefer Aston Martin myself".

All depends on whether you want to be sure to arrive.
Nice shape though.

[xxxxxy] 20/6/2019 17:19

Richard Maedje 20 Jun 2019 5:12PM

Why is the EU so bothered, if it supposedly doesn't really matter to the EU, that the U.K. Has chosen to leave?

Let's review... the EU needs the U.K. economically far more than the U.K. needs the EU. This is not controversial or even a debatable point amongst financial analysts.

As such, the EU is worried that because with new leadership in the U.K., the EU will now have to renegotiate the terms of withdrawal or it will face horrendous problems with trying to sell things in the U.K.

Already, both German and French and indeed Dutch businesses are heavily pressuring the EU to grow up and engage the U.K. in an adult fashion by shaping an orderly and functional clean break deal. But for the playground bullies on the commission, they would lose face if they had to backtrack, so they are designing this clearly untenable position, knowing perfectly well that as Boris Johnson suggested not paying the 39 billion in any event until there was an accounting of exactly what that was for anyway, the EU

Commission had absolutely no tangible defense or even substantive counter to it except to say.... "well, it wouldn't be nice of you to ask us to account for what that bill actually is and we think the rest of the world should call you debt risk because of your insistence at looking at the actual bill before paying it."

THAT was their paltry response.... The EU cannot be taken seriously that they won't be forced to renegotiate. They have no choice.

The EU is a puffed up rooster preening around inside a quickly disintegrating dinosaur of an economic model of protectionism that is being dismantled world-wide by Trump and the other newer and more modern economies that are putting the kabosh on the old models the EU is unsuccessfully clinging to.

The USA cut corporate tax rates and so now Germany and France do not have that advantage. The EU's response when the EU economy starts to tank? "Let's devalue our currency."

Has anyone noticed that countries which fail to reduce tariffs and protectionism to equal or fair levels are LOOSING. Apple is now moving its supply chain out of China. Companies producing in Mexico are now moving back to the US. The German economy is on the verge of recession and along with it mainland Europe because the EU can't compete on the world stage using this outdated and vulnerable economic protectionist racket.

Why anyone would want to do down with the EU is beyond me.

Oh yes... has anyone noticed Italy is now building a NON-EURO currency under the nose of the EU and there isn't a darned thing the EU can do about it.

Yes, the EU cannot be taken seriously as it fails to recognize it is not the power it thought it was, nor is it realistically in a position to order the U.K. around either in a withdrawal agreement under new U.K. Leadership.

They not only will cave, they will cave before OCt. 31.... Mark my words

[crossing_the_rubicon] 20/6/2019 17:16

Ferrari???

Prefer Aston Martin myself.

Love how "it's always about Money" for Minnie.

More to life than money.

One day you might work that out!

[crossing_the_rubicon] 20/6/2019 15:31

To all those who said a NO DEAL Brexit means we have to levy tariffs (likewise the EU) you are wrong:

"This, from @Lawyers4Britain, is hugely important.

There is no technical reason for the UK and the EU to apply tariffs to each other's exports pending more comprehensive trade talks.

Applying tariffs would be a political choice, not a legal requirement"

[ladeside] 20/6/2019 15:17

Shy Tott, Although I don't always agree with your politics or your posts, I do think that you are one of the best posters here as you are willing to see both sides of an argument, even if you don't necessarily agree.

That, I find to be rather refreshing, in today's "black" or "white" world.........

[xxxxxy] 20/6/2019 14:05

LEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 20/6/2019 14:04

Nigel Broadbent 20 Jun 2019 1:51PM

I agree that there is no chance of getting a deal with the EU before 31 October. There isn't time even if there was the will in the EU (which there isn't, at the moment). So it has to be No Deal at this point in time.



The only way Boris as PM would be able to pass a No Deal through Parliament is with the threat of a GE. It is packed with Remainers and they will not pass it unless they feel they have no choice. The only thing that will work is to threaten them with a GE. You'd think self-preservation would be a strong instinct in our diminished political class.



Lots of MPs have very good reason to believe they will lose their seat if they don't commit to a No Deal (on the basis tht not many Tories really believethere is any other way to do Brexit now). Craig Whittaker in my constituency (Calder Valley) is a good example.



If MPs don't proactively push for No Deal now then no one is going to believe them when they have some sort of Damascene conversion just before a GE in 2022. If we still haven't got Brexit by 2022 then the Conservative Party will never recover. To be honest, if we haven't got Brexit by 31 October Boris will be toast, and no one else has anywhere near as much support, so the Party is dead on 1 November 2019 anyway if we are still in the EU on that date.

[kmjs] 20/6/2019 13:56

261970

"Twenty-six Labour MPs have written to Jeremy Corbyn to urge him to not commit to a second referendum"

Currently MP's seem to be able and happy moving between parties to find a home, so
will the next political shock be the 26 threatening to join the BREXIT party in
order to honour the LEAVE vote?

[smith99] 20/6/2019 13:25

Hang on, have you forgot the ni contributions were for pensions

[ladeside] 20/6/2019 13:11

It seems to work ok in the likes of Norway, however people like you don't ever want to talk about that and instead wheel out basket cases such as Venezuela who of course are being destroyed by your US masters (and I don't mean Augusta).............

[maxk] 20/6/2019 13:10

One vote missing

[maxk] 20/6/2019 13:09

gove 61

hunt 59

johnson 157

javid 34

[mr.elbee] 20/6/2019 13:02

This whole income equality argument is a statistical piece of nonsense if ever there was one.You can really improve equality by making everyone poor..that's called Socialism..
It has no moral or economic base whatever ..like global warming, or diversity, or Rory Stewart, it is just piffling nonsense to amuse and distract the masses from what is really going on.
And AHO was a one off Shy Tott..we wont see his like again.

[ladeside] 20/6/2019 12:59

Shy Tott, what you state about sports stars "working hard" and "deserving it" is with all due respect complete and utter nonsense.

As a quick and very good example I'l give you one name,

Saido Berahino.

He has made millions on the back of absolutely nothing both from a perspective of achievement or dedication and sadly there are many like him. He's a waster and a pretty useless waster at that.

It's a sad corrupt society in which we live I'm afraid and quite frankly taxation is really the only way to tackle it.

The business world and the sports world have had the chance to self police but have in fact done the opposite, which is the point that any competent Government should now be stepping in........

[maxk] 20/6/2019 12:52

Min could tick both boxes

[crossing_the_rubicon] 20/6/2019 12:48

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