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[cheshire pete] 27/5/2019 22:31

Can they get rid of him though diku under their current rules?

[diku] 27/5/2019 22:27

Think the focus will now switch to Corbyn...can he survive as leader of the Labour party ?...surely Labour would want a new leader in case there is a general election...

[cheshire pete] 27/5/2019 22:25

Alphorn, EU taken us for a ride for too long. It has to stop, one of the reasons for Brexit.

Time to repeat maxk's excellent recent post.


Lest we forget


Just to concentrate minds. on who to vote for.



2011 - Cadbury moved to Poland with EU grant.

2011 - Ford Transit moved to Turkey with EU grant.

Jaguar Landrover new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, sold to Volkeswagen last week.

Peugeot closed Ryton plant (was Rootes Group) moved production to Slovakia.

British Army's new Ajax armed vehicles to be built in Spain using Swedish steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant instead of Wales.

Dyson goes to Malaysia with an EU grant.

Crown Closures Bournemouth (was Metal Box) gone to Poland with EU grant. Once employed 1,200.

M&S manufacturing gone to FE with EU loan.

Hornby Models gone. All toys and models gone from UK with patents… all with EU grants.

Gillette gone to E. Europe with EU grant.

Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.

Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.

Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil foam plant will relocate to Roemond Netherlands with EU funding.

Hoover Merthyr Tydfil factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company, Candy with EU backing.

ICI integration into Holland's Akzo Nobel with EU bank loan. Within days of the merger, several UK factories were closed eliminating 3,500 jobs.

Boots sold to Italian Stefano Pessina who've based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year using an EU loan for the purchase. Now issued profit warning last week.

JDS Uniphase run by two Dutchmen who bought up companies in the UK with £20 million EU 'regeneration grants', created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean up paid by the UK taxpayer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.

UK airports owned by Spanish company.

Scottish Power owned by Spanish company.

Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies (Deutschebarn).

Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by EDF (Energie de France) part owned by French Govt. using cheap Chinese steel which has catastrophically failed at other nuclear installations. EDF now says the costs will double and it will be very late if it even does come online.

Swindon once made rail locomotives and rolling stock. All transferred to Bombardier in Derby due to their losses in the aviation market will see the end railway manufacture altogether. Bombadier got a grant to keep going in Derby, but diverted it to their loss-making aviation site in Canada.

39% British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies mostly in the EU.

Mini cars are built by BMW in Holland and Austria.

Fans outrage as foreign firm Nestle shrinks Terry's Chocolate Oranges by 10% but price remains the same.

And the last is the destruction of our steel industry. We invented the process in 1856, before Henry Bressemer everything was made of cast iron or bronze/copper! British Steel's receivership loses 25,000 jobs. Makes us dependent on poor quality imports (see above Hinkley Point C) with the knock on effects to manufacturing.



Anyone voting for the parties currently in Parliament is a traitor.

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 22:18

Millions hate the Tories .....

[grahamite2] 27/5/2019 22:15

Alphorn, I wonder if you've lived on the continent so long you've completely gone native. You seem unable to comprehend that millions of people loathe the EU and want to see the back of it.

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 22:14

Every time it rains
It rains pennies from heaven
Don't you know each cloud contains
Pennies from heaven
You'll find your fortune
Fallin' all over town
Be sure that your umbrella is upside down
Trade them for a package of sunshine and flowers
If you want the things you love
You must have showers
So when you hear it thunder
Don't run under a tree
There'll be pennies from heaven
For you and me.



Rose Murphy

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 22:07

I'm kind a buzzed and it's all because...
Minerve does it like nobody does...

[minerve 2] 27/5/2019 21:57

Criminal World - Bowie

[xxxxxy] 27/5/2019 21:36

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Julie Dyson
Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:05 am | Permalink

Indeed — that simple, undeniable truth being:

Clean WTO Brexit, No Ifs, No Buts (TBP, UKIP): 35%
Some Other Form Of Brexit Fudge (Con, Lab): 25%
Remain an EU Cash Cow (LD, GR, CHUK): 35%
Break Up The UK Whatever The Cost (SNP, PC): 5%

The BBC and Remoaners in general will of course continue to spin this to suit their own agenda, but the fundamental truth remains. Of those with the UK’s own best interests genuinely at heart, Leave is clearly still in the majority. End of.

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glen cullen
Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:56 am | Permalink

also interesting to note

UKIP (leave EU) won EURO elections 2014
Referendum (leave EU) won 2016
BREIT (leave EU) won EURO elections 2019

Somebody isn’t getting the message ?

[excell1] 27/5/2019 21:25

I see that Minney the chief Chump is very vocal today.He is clearly rattled by the Euro MEP results...Rock on.
Well done the Brexit Party,clearly giving both the Tories and Labour a well deserved bloody nose.
Now let's have a proper Brexit Leader (definitely not back stabbing Grove) and get this Brexit done with a decent deal for the U.K. or a no deal exit.
Those Tories that defied their electorates wishes in the GE. should be dumped.Parliment represents the people,it is not there to do as it wants and disregard the electorate.It's like the Tories winning a G.E. and the establishment saying we don't want that, the Greens will form a government.It would not be democracy and neither was the Referendum, when clearly the leave side won and the elites said we can't have that,just ignore the electorate.

[maxk] 27/5/2019 20:54

Who might these very powerful people be?

After all, the city is supposed to be gung ho for €uropa, likewise old money landowners, bid biz etc.

Who stands to benefit?

[alphorn] 27/5/2019 20:37

Perhaps you have dealt with the corner shops in your working life.

[grahamite2] 27/5/2019 20:31

Utterly bonkers.

[alphorn] 27/5/2019 20:22

Max - This I believe is the real power behind Brexit - to move the UK out of reach of any interchanges of information.

[grahamite2] 27/5/2019 20:06

Raab is the second favourite.

I'm utterly disgusted to see that four letter fellow Gove at third. Surely not? Dear God.

Steve Baker is at 33s

Rees Mogg is anywhere from 40s to 150s.

[maxk] 27/5/2019 20:03

Brexit powers only Alp?

[mr.elbee] 27/5/2019 19:52

It's Raab..and I am going to Bet fred tomorrow.

[alphorn] 27/5/2019 19:27

You are right on one thing G2 - blind trusts. An attraction to return plus the offshore networks. In other countries these sleight of hand instruments are not available and all is disclosed. Brexit powers need them to continue in the UK out of the reach of regulations.

Where do you think the recent intl backhander scandal that is in the courts was negotiated? ($2bn I think).

[grahamite2] 27/5/2019 18:59

Equally I have my doubts about your other ideas, Poikka. Why should Mrs Leadsom be given a damn thing? She doesn't represent a wing that has to be mollified, and she hasn't personally contributed anything ever.

You're right that Hammond has to go, but that goes without saying. I'm sure he has already been to see his lawyers about winding up the blind trusts and resuming personal control of his business interests.

[grahamite2] 27/5/2019 18:54

Steve Baker suffers from the who he ed? problem.

But having looked him up, I can see he's exactly right in every way - right to secure a genuine leave, right to turn the Conservative Party back into a genuinely conservative Party.

Unfortunately, he'd be a gift for the enemy media (i.e. the media) and he'd get on with his fellow MPs about as well as Corbyn gets on with his. 5 or 10 years down the line then maybe, but right now he would be difficult.

[diku] 27/5/2019 18:48

Anybody think Heseltine might have influenced some of the Lib dem wins...

[grahamite2] 27/5/2019 18:38

If The Lib Dems had won most seats in the Euro election would the BBC have spent the evening saying how well the Brexit party had done by coming second?

FLOL John Redwood, good find xxy!

[diku] 27/5/2019 18:11

Smart money wants those lows of 50p again to get in...think it will be facilitated...

[shy tott] 27/5/2019 18:09

Poik, how did you vote for hannan? My voting form only had a place for a cross for a party, not the individuals.


So you voted Tory, which included hannan?


I'm not sure how the meps were chosen once the votes for each party were known but it must be by some formula or other (can't be bothered to look it up).