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[mikemichael2] 18/12/2020 10:39

Friend couldn't look after their new puppy, so we have a new addition to our household

[minerve 2] 18/12/2020 10:38

Yes, don’t worry about us. Stick with your democracy. :)

[cheshire pete] 18/12/2020 10:37

Yes it would Poikka, with all these FTAs that Liz Truss has signed a weak pound would be great.

[cheshire pete] 18/12/2020 10:35

Barnier saying the 'moment of truth has arrived'....rubbish, it's been crystal clear for yonks that the EU isn't interested in a deal, especially one that recognises our sovereignty.

No deal Boris. You'll be a national hero. Don't worry about the remoaners ....they're all liberal and labour lefties who won't vote Tory anyway.

[poikka] 18/12/2020 10:34

A rubbish deal, coupled with a strong £ would sign the death warrant for the UK.

[mikemichael2] 18/12/2020 10:34

Think I'll give the (free) Jazz a wash and wax.

Not a bad day here today.

[johnkettleyistheweatherman] 18/12/2020 10:20

morning minerve

morninxxxx morninxxxxx FFS STOP CRYING IM TRYING TO SAY GOOD MORNING U FOOL

[minerve 2] 18/12/2020 10:14

Scruff

Yes, I’m a LFC supporter but not as tribal as some. One of my brokers had a directors box at Old Trafford so I have actually seen as many live Man U matches as LFC ones. In fact I have watched Stoke City more than any other team because my dad supports Stoke.

[diku] 18/12/2020 08:51

Looking at that right header chart it wants to go down...Deal or No Deal...a 10% fall on the news to lock in or shakeout all recent buyers...

[xxxxxy] 18/12/2020 07:51

EXCLUSIVE: "Sheer scale of EU's unlevel playing field beggars belief"Revealed: EU's trade surplus with UK tops £1 TRILLION in 20 years from year 2000?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020 - click to enlargeAs a 'trade deal' nears agreement, Facts4EU.Org shows the slope of the ground it will stand onIn the 20 years to 2019, the EU27's SURPLUS in its trade in goods with the UK surpassed the £1 trillion mark. That's one TRILLION. Pounds, not Euros.Strangely, no-one from the EU nor from the mainstream media has mentioned this.Ahead of the 'trade deal' expected to be agreed by the end of this weekend, Brexit Facts4EU.Org analyses the latest trade figures to bring MPs and the public the astonishing magnitude of the EU's unlevel playing field.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYEU member states' trade in goods with the UK in the last 20 years, 2000 - 2019Exports to the UK: £3,836,536 million (£3.8 trillion)Imports from the UK: £2,774,495 million (£2.8 trillion)Trade surplus with UK: £1,060,606 million (£1 trillion)?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org - click to enlarge[Sources: House of Commons Library and ONS, 10 Nov 2020]The sheer scale of the EU's unlevel playing field beggars beliefIn the past 20 years, the EU countries' goods exports to the UK were £1,060,606,000,000 more than their goods imports from the UK.This is the playing field on which the EU has spent the last four-and-a-half years imposing draconian terms on the UK and claiming that the UK must not be allowed to "threaten the integrity of the Single Market with unfair competition".It beggars belief that it is the EU which has acted like this, when in fact it is the UK that has every right to demand stiff trading terms from the EU, not the other way around.The smoking gunWriting for Facts4EU.Org earlier this month, in a two-part article here and here the economist Professor David Blake explained how the structurally undervalued Euro has enabled EU countries to 'dump' goods onto the UK market, leaving many British companies unable to compete effectively.It can certainly be argued that the huge imbalance in trade between the EU and the UK in the 20 years since the Euro's inception is the 'smoking gun' which proves the case."But what about services?"Before Remainers start deflecting as usual and say "But what about services?", three basic facts need to be pointed out.This 'trade deal' is about goods and the EU's attempts to interfere in the UK's constitution, its internal laws, and its fiscal, environmental, and societal standards. The EU has repeatedly refused to discuss a full agreement encompassing services – the UK's strength.The UK runs a relatively small surplus in services with the the EU – far less than to the rest of the world – but even if this were included the EU would still have a £0.83 trillion surplus.When talking about "protecting the integrity of the Single Market", the EU are primarily talking about trade in goods as this is what the Single Market has been all about.Once again we must remind Remainer politicians – and even the big name Leave organisations who failed to rebut them - that the Single Market never worked for services, by the admission of the EU Commission itself."The Single Market – this jewel that is all too often taken for granted –does not function properly for services"- El?bieta Bie?kowska, EU Commissioner for the Single Market, 2017?OBSERVATIONSIt scarcely seems credible that the UK is still talking to the EU about a 'trade deal', given the continuing absurdity of the EU's arguments regarding its Single Market. Yet that, apparently, is exactly what is still happening.The MEPs of the EU Parliament have now issued an ultimatum that a deal must be agreed by midnight on Sunday, or they will refuse to discuss and ratify it by 31 December. We wish that MPs in the House of Commons had issued a similar ultimatum back in June – or at the latest by another one of the PM's many missed deadlines, on 15 October. This deal will require major scrutiny over a great many weeks.The raw facts above demonstrate very clearly that it is the UK that should be imposing demands on the EU, in order to protect the single market of the United Kingdom. As this has not been done, and as the UK is seemingly now giving up more and more of its sovereignty in the form of concessions, we see no possibility of any 'trade deal' being remotely acceptable.Once again we urge the Prime Minister to walk away and then rescind and void the Withdrawal Agreement and Political Declaration on the grounds of the EU's bad faith and failure to agree a normal trade deal.Even at this late hour Boris Johnson still has the opportunity to become a hero of democracy and freedom, and to deliver a genuinely free, independent, and sovereign United Kingdom to the people. We hope he seizes the moment.Finally, we badly need your help to continue this work into the final battle. Readers who have not already donated to fund our work (which involves no limos, no secretaries, no long lunches – unlike the EU Commission) could do so in a two shakes of a Juncker martini. Quick, secure, and confidential donation links are below this article. We only survive on public donations – unlike some Remainer organisations no foreign billionaires have ever funded us, sadly. Come to that, no domestic billionaires have ever funded us either...[ Sources: HoCL | ONS | EU Commission ] Politicians and journalists can contact us for details, as ever.Brexit Facts4EU.Org, Fri Dec 2020

[xxxxxy] 18/12/2020 07:46

Frankly the abolition of the Welsh Assembly is on the agenda, because the Welsh Assembly is a failure in practice.

[xxxxxy] 18/12/2020 07:45

Devolution, the EU and the future of the UKBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: DECEMBER 18, 2020At the end of the last century I wrote a book entitled The Death of Britain? I argued that Tony Blair's constitutional revolution would damage our democracy and undermine the UK.I said "Labour's constitutional blueprint is nothing more than a plan for the destruction of UK democracy. It threatens splits within the Kingdom. It threatens transferring far too much out of democratic control. (to independent quangos as well as to the EU) It gives far too much ground to the federal plans on the continent. "I always thought if we lost the pound, our independent currency, then there would be no point in pretending there was an easy rescue. If we could save the pound, which I set about campaigning to achieve, we could rescue the rest in due course.The endless delays over Brexit have shown how Labour's devolution settlement can be used to disunite our response to the policy and seek to overturn it. The impact of devolution on our exit teems with ironies and contradictions. The Republic of Ireland and the EU are seeking to force a compromise that keeps Northern Ireland partially in the EU's orbit of their single market, worrying Unionists in Ulster about creeping EU control. Meanwhile Scotland with the SNP in a majority at Edinburgh say they want the Northern Irish arrangements for themselves. The EU must privately worry about the strength of the SNP, as the EU sides with Spain in seeking to resist an independence movement in Catalonia when there is read across from the one to the other.The Conservative party opposed devolution in Scotland and Wales, and was on the losing side in the referendums that created it. The party has always accepted the result, did not try to delay or derail devolution going through and has faithfully pursued it ever since. If we revisit the arguments that underlay the referendum it is unfortunate that the Conservatives were right about one fundamental issue. Labour always claimed if they granted Scotland a bit of devolution and it would end the nationalist movement. Instead it ended Labour's dominance as a political force in Scotland. Conservatives argued it would give the nationalists a platform, and they would use the politics of grievance to seek to increase devolved powers, always circling the true objective of independence.This week devolution has been yet again the subject of SNP interventions, seeking to claim that despite the transfer of more powers to the Scottish Parliament from the ones we repatriate from the EU, Scotland does not get enough power over single market matters in the UK as of course trade policy for example is a reserved matter for the Union.Brexit has made even more obvious the unfairness of lopsided devolution to England.England voted decisively to leave but has had no voice at the table when the devolved administrations meet Union Ministers to decide how to proceed. We need to look again at the issue of voice for England. Meanwhile both major parties in the Commons have to get better at countering the politics of grievance from the SNP, who seek to turn every debate about our future into recriminations over what Scotland is allowed to do.I am proud of the decision of the UK Parliament to grant Scotland a referendum to settle the issue of Scottish attachment to the UK for another generation. It contrasts well with the anti democratic approach of Spain and the EU to the demands for a referendum on Catalan independence. It would be good if MPs meant what they said when they say they will implement the results of a referendum on such important matters.

[xxxxxy] 18/12/2020 07:42

John Redwood@johnredwood·45mThe EU has just had four and half more years of over fishing our seas. That's a long transition. Time to take back control.

[xxxxxy] 18/12/2020 07:41

John Redwood@johnredwood49mGlad the U.K. is insisting on controlling our laws, fish, taxes and state aids.We voted to be independent , not for a compromise. Free trade Agreement or No deal are the options

[scruff1] 18/12/2020 05:54

Minnie
Thought you were LFC. Good win for them night before - although Jose reckons spurs were the best team of course.
We were ok last night but not a great game imo. Defence doesnt inspire confidence and midfield needs a power booster.
Good comment on wife's f/b. Why do the french think all the fish in the channel are theirs and all the people are ours

[newbank] 18/12/2020 00:50

Misterbluesky,
Post 5187:No more ICE cars for sale from 2030

Not True, I think Boris refers to New Cars and even then can't see it happening.

Biggest polluters are lorries.

I have mixed feelings as I love the purring of the six or eight cylinder car. The top of the range straight six have Bose or Harman Kardon sound systems but why? The best sound comes from the Engine. Nothing better than summertime having the roof down, wind in your hair, sound system off and just listening to the perfect sound from the Engine. :)

Classic cars will be with us for many many years, whether they prohibit new cars or not.

[diku] 17/12/2020 22:44

TP...wouldn't be surprised if we get a sell off...buy on the rumour and sell on the news...

[cheshire pete] 17/12/2020 22:44

Boris saying the right things....think he's going for it.

[k38] 17/12/2020 22:36

PUTIN..Another leader ( after Biden and Trump) who's says "will take vaccine when it's my turn"

[k38] 17/12/2020 22:36

PUTIN Another leader ( after Biden and Trump) who's says "will take vaccine when it's my turn"

[cheshire pete] 17/12/2020 22:24

Hospitals need to have windows that can be opened once more, and opened easily so that fresh air can flow through wards, instead of air conditioning. May well reduce hospital acquired COVID infections.
All changed following the oil crisis of 1973 and the need to limit heat losses from buildings.

[misterbluesky] 17/12/2020 22:18

Pollution Caused by Fossil Fuels

Acid Rain. Acid rain refers to precipitation that carries sulfur and nitrogen compounds from the atmosphere to the ground.

Climate Change. The burning of fossil fuels to produce energy also releases significant amounts of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the environment.

Air Pollution and Health. Fossil fuels are a major contributor to health-harming air pollution. ...

No more ICE cars for sale from 2030.

[minerve 2] 17/12/2020 22:17

Scruff

Win tonight, that will do. :)