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[kkclimber56] 17/12/2020 15:34

Should have said "does not"

[kkclimber56] 17/12/2020 15:33

XxxxyYour post does represent the position of the EU parliamentWhat they have said is that if an agreement is not reached by sunday then they will not be able to ratify it by the end of the year not that they will neverc ratify it. My understanding is that there are provisions under EU law for any agreement to be implemented in advance of being ratified.

[xxxxxy] 17/12/2020 15:30

Nigel Farage@Nigel_Farage21hAfter 6 weeks the Electoral Commission have still not reached a decision regarding the Brexit Party name changing to Reform UK.

[xxxxxy] 17/12/2020 15:27

So.No DealWTOLibertyLiberty for Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Gibraltar and Falkland Islands.

[xxxxxy] 17/12/2020 15:26

Brexit negotiators have been set a deadline of Sunday, or the European Parliament will refuse to ratify the agreement and force a no trade deal Brexit, just as MPs were told Christmas recess will begin today.Senior MEPs are furious they are being asked to ratify the agreement without sufficient time to scrutinise the agreement before the end of year no deal deadline.They issued the threat after a meeting with Michel Barnier in Brussel on Thursday, with the negotiator saying talks were now in the "final stretch" and it was "possible" to find an agreement on Friday...Daily Telegraph.... Well the EUSSR can only blame itself for dragging feet, and spreading the EUSSR inspired terrorism of various Project Fears... EUSSR. Go and fish.

[xxxxxy] 17/12/2020 15:16

 We now discover that the EU wishes to take all sorts of other powers away from us as the price for the free trade agreement, which we have already overpaid for in the withdrawal agreement and which one would have thought, in good faith, the EU would now grant. It is very much in its interests-even more than it is in our interests-given the huge imbalance in trade, and above all in the trade that would attract tariffs if we had no free trade agreement: the trade in food. That is really what we are talking about: are there going to be tariffs on food or not?We, the United Kingdom, run a colossal £20 billion trade deficit with the EU on food. We have to impose pretty high tariffs on food from the rest of the world-that makes absolutely no sense where we could not grow any of it ourselves; it may have some benefit for some of our farmers some of the time-but we are not allowed to put any similar tariffs on EU-sourced produce where we could produce it ourselves. The EU system is to try to use tariffs to buttress domestic production, but it has not worked for the United Kingdom; it has worked the other way. The tariffs have been taken off in order to benefit the Dutch, Spanish, French or Irish suppliers of our market with food at zero tariffs. The EU already has rather more interest in tariff withdrawal than we do, because we could have a range of tariffs that would probably achieve the aims both of cutting food prices by having a lower average tariff and of having a bit more protection on the things that we really could make and grow for ourselves here, which we are not allowed to protect against continental products at the moment.... John Redwood

[lefrene] 17/12/2020 15:07

maxk, that sounds like a desperate attempt to control the narrative, so they can pretend they are in charge!

[maxk] 17/12/2020 15:06

Live Brexit latest news: Brussels will refuse to ratify deal if reached after Sunday, MEPs claim


Michel Barnier told MEPs a deal could come as early as Friday

Catherine Neilan, politics live editor
17 DECEMBER 2020 • 3:00PM



Brexit negotiators have been set a deadline of Sunday, or the European Parliament will refuse to ratify the agreement and force a no trade deal Brexit, just as MPs were told Christmas recess will begin today.

Senior MEPs are furious they are being asked to ratify the agreement without sufficient time to scrutinise the agreement before the end of year no deal deadline.

They issued the threat after a meeting with Michel Barnier in Brussel on Thursday, with the negotiator saying talks were now in the "final stretch" and it was "possible" to find an agreement on Friday.

[grahamite2] 17/12/2020 15:02

I'm pretty sure that many "Brexiteers" will be begging for our old European friends back...

Remind us, what "friends" might that be?

[ladeside] 17/12/2020 15:00

Cheers Minerve, hope you're doing well also.

I've been pretty busy recently so just look in now and again and i'm delighted to see that it's still the good old "Brexit" thread !!

My big worry is that the yanks have us exactly where they want us with regards a trade deal and I'm pretty sure that many "Brexiteers" will be begging for our old European friends back after being screwed over by the yanks.

Let's be honest, it's not as if they don't have previous form for this..........

[grahamite2] 17/12/2020 14:57

You've got to laugh at these clownish correspondents to the Daily Remoaner aka the FT. They STILL haven't accepted they lost and they're still living in a dream world.

NO concessions to the EU are inevitable, much less major ones. The EU will do well to take anything it can get while we're feeling generous.

[grahamite2] 17/12/2020 14:51

#325067 some years since I last saw that one, mikemichael. Good stuff.

[minerve 2] 17/12/2020 14:48

Cynically timed to give Parliament the minimum amount of time to scrutinise what will inevitably be major concessions and then announced just before the dead news period of Christmas. But what would one expect from this abject collection of wretches? Nor will it stop the chaos already manifesting itself on both sides of the Dover Calais strait. Is there a place in hell below that of global laughing-stock?

- FT comment


EU should not be allowing this. Don't give them a deal this side of the year.

[johnkettleyistheweatherman] 17/12/2020 14:48

decomposing id rather

[minerve 2] 17/12/2020 14:47

A nice little Christmas Cracker for you:

"three hundred thousand, and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand tests for the virus" - Patel

[minerve 2] 17/12/2020 14:42

So the UK will only face a decline in GDP of 4.9% over 15 years as opposed to a 7.6% reduction. What a lovely Christmas present for us all. The long, slow decline continues presided over by the most incompetent PM in the country’s history.

Another.

[minerve 2] 17/12/2020 14:42

It almost looks like the only reason behind the UK having dragged out the negotiations this long is to give MPs and the media as little time as possible to scrutinise the text of the trade deal and the associated UK legislation.

Is this what sovereignty looks like then? Having MPs nod through legislation that they haven't read? Doesn't sound very democratic to me.


Comment on the FT.

[maxk] 17/12/2020 14:41

Yep, no one will take it..except Min.

[minerve 2] 17/12/2020 14:40

Good to see you post by-the-way. Hope you are keeping safe . :)