Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[heialex1] 10/12/2020 09:49

In the nicest possible way, wake up and read the detail.Like the Canada deal, it effectively rolls over the existing agreement that we had through the EU. This is bare minimum stuff, not the reason you blow yourself up. Weren't things supposed to be better??? We celebrate because a couple of relatively small deals get rolled over? Come on... where had the critical thinking gone in this country? Why are so many people so easily fooled?The only meaningful prizes out there in terms of trade deals, after the EU which is the largest trading area in the world (and we've just thrown that away), are US and China... and please understand who had the upper hand in those negotiations.

[smartypants] 10/12/2020 09:49

"Project Fear"

It is not your school homework project that the dog ate

It is reality, and it's about to bite you where it hurts

[diku] 10/12/2020 09:49

Bojo should stand firm...good on him...



Gove was very calm with his interviewer on Breakfast - he was saying that the UK couldn't accept the EU's position put forward in recent weeks that if the EU creates new trade rules in the future, we'd have to abide by them.

[careful] 10/12/2020 09:47

'Well done Liz Truss'...Singapore trade deal.

Singapore population 5.6m.
EU. population 500m.

Who needs Europe?


I have heard a rumour that we could clinch a deal with Tonga.
Groovy.

[geckotheglorious] 10/12/2020 09:47

Boxerdogz
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"The EU at it's finest , YES Remainers they hate you too



Spain a big short then!!!!

[poikka] 10/12/2020 09:45

Gove was very calm with his interviewer on Breakfast - he was saying that the UK couldn't accept the EU's position put forward in recent weeks that if the EU creates new trade rules in the future, we'd have to abide by them.

Which brought this response from the complete moron of an interviewer:

"So what you're saying is that you've shifted your position on N.Ireland, so you won't budge on others?"

Maybe he was Mr Tesco, again - cheddar and brie.

But top marks to Gove, calm and clear-headed.

[geckotheglorious] 10/12/2020 09:44

xxxxxy
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"Cheddar could become Brexit favourite as no-deal could increase price of brie
Brexit will see a boost for Cheddar over Brie, the Tesco boss has said as the French cheese price could rise by 40 per cent in a no-deal"

Somerset brie is superior. Avoid buying French cheeses now.
Red Leicester. Stilton, Somerset Brie, Cheddar. Plenty of UK cheeses to choose from.

Screw the French.

[geckotheglorious] 10/12/2020 09:42

Naysayer Remoaners shown to have lied about no trade deals, no rollover trade deals being possible I see...

UK and Singapore sign £17.6bn free trade deal
The agreement comes amid continued negotiations between the UK and EU over a post-Brexit trade deal.




As Brexiteers said at the time, Trade occurs DESPITE Governments, not BECAUSE of them.
FTA were always likely once UK pulled its finger out.

We have stuff people want to buy, and likewise we want to buy stuff others have to sell. And there are plenty of substitutes available globally for EU products we currently consume.

[maxk] 10/12/2020 09:41

Boris Johnson refuses to back down in face of Brexit deadlock in Brussels

Negotiators must reach a deal within four days



updated
Oliver Wright, Policy Editor | Bruno Waterfield, Brussels | Francis Elliott, Political Editor | Eleni Courea, Political Reporter
Thursday December 10 2020, 9.00am, The Times




Boris Johnson and EU leaders gave their Brexit negotiators four more days last night to get a deal as they warned that “very large gaps” remained between the two sides.

After three hours of “frank” discussion in Brussels between the prime minister and Ursula von der Leyen, president of the EU Commission, Downing Street said it was “unclear” whether the remaining differences could be bridged.

The two leaders gave their teams until Sunday to reach an agreement but said that if a deal was not possible by then, a “firm” decision would have to be taken to suspend talks and prepare for a Brexit without one.

“The prime minister does not want to leave any route to a possible deal untested,” a Downing Street source

[geckotheglorious] 10/12/2020 09:40

Poikka
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"Britain is set to sign a £20bn post-Brexit trade deal with Canada that will roll over terms from an existing agreement with the EU"


Didn't Remoaners say UK would NOT be able to roll over Third party - EU trade deals on same terms????

Principle of Continuity.

There was one notable lawyer on twitter around June 2016 who was adamant that UK would not be able to achieve this at all.

[alex1621] 10/12/2020 09:40

Think about the small minded mentality of Nats and Brexiteers. Two peas in a pod. The irony is that you spend half your life slagging off people who are just as dimwitted as you. There have been no benefits of leaving the EU ... a trashed currency, lower levels of inward investment, and in a no deal scenario capital flight and decimation for a number of industries. Same small minded flag waving exceptionalism at work with both Nats and Brexiteers. If you were born north of the border you'd be one.

[grahamite2] 10/12/2020 09:36

Oh good, more Project Fear, just what we all wanted!

[cheshire pete] 10/12/2020 09:32

LLOY down >3%, starting to price in no deal.

[utrickytrees] 10/12/2020 09:17

Scruff, anywhere North of Clachan bridge used to be a bit problematic getting supplies to. In the good old days the little post office would sell everything you needed. Things have improved somewhat in recent years with more supermarkets in the larger towns. Much of the hysteria and lack of support for Brexit is panic driven with many fearing continuity of supply of heavy & square sausage but they have had their ears bent by the doom mongers. Look at Iceland & Azerbaijan both are more remote than Scotland & neither are in the EU.

[cheshire pete] 10/12/2020 09:15

Well done Liz Truss. Keep them coming. It will soon be over, free at last.

[poikka] 10/12/2020 09:11

"Why wait for over 4 years"

Frustrating for those who could see the EU's game, or should I say EU politicians' game, but if the government didn't try for a trade deal, they'd be criticised by the sad excuse for an opposition and their media cronies, which wouldn't do the Tories' election chances much good.

Aside from that, it gives the UK time to conclude trade agreements elsewhere.

[grahamite2] 10/12/2020 09:07

careful10 Dec '20 - 08:56 - 323570 of 323570

4 years and still arguing about the same issues, pathetic.

Nice to see we have some common ground!

It's quite simple, really. We have two groups with fundamentally different principles and standpoints that simply cannot be squared. When you get that it's time for a parting of the ways.

[diku] 10/12/2020 09:04

Exactly...if there was going to be a No Deal why wait for over 4 years...no wonder the FTSE and some of the household name shares have under performed big time compared to other western indexes..

[poikka] 10/12/2020 09:04

"Brexit will see a boost for Cheddar over Brie, the Tesco boss has said as the French cheese price could rise by 40 per cent in a no-deal."

Don't get it, Mr Tesco, shouldn't you be comparing French brie with Somerset Brie? Credibility issue, or maybe I missed something.

A small benefit to the UK, and the environment will be that yoghurt will no longer be transported to the continent for packaging and then shipped back again to our shops. What craziness was that.

So, yes, many opportunities for increased production in the UK.

[careful] 10/12/2020 09:03

Too much talk of trade.
financial services are just as important.

A two way trade and services war could develop, similar to the American 'buy American First' Policy.

It will take years for this to become clear.

At the end of it all there will be more general elections, (here and all over the EU).
The public a fickle and soon change their minds, particularly if many face hardship.
Democracy has always been messy, to work well it needs an intelligent electorate.

Fat chance.

[careful] 10/12/2020 08:56

Liam Fox and Dominic Raab Talking today.
It sounds to me as though they are preparing everyone for a no deal announcement.

Unless it is more last minute bluffing.
4 years and still arguing about the same issues, pathetic.

[xxxxxy] 10/12/2020 08:49

FedupsouthernerPosted December 10, 2020 at 6:31 am | PermalinkIt's simple. They want us to fail and come back begging. We have never begged before so don't start now. No other country has had to give up their sovereignty so why us? Stand fast Boris and get us out. The world will see what the EU is truly like if they make life difficult for us. We already know both from past experience and the present.