Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[jl5006] 24/9/2020 18:54

Lefr
You have to remember that Obama was I/c in 2008. I/C what does that mean / - And J yellen was ic of fed.
So if this gaping black hole was hidden til 2019 - who colluded?
The democrats were in place when the devastation occurred - so does this rest - if true - at the feet of the Biden man to explain?
As to UK nonsense ur analysis is just a plain and simple. sad our media thinks it is the black death - for they cannot sell their newsprint!

[lefrene] 24/9/2020 18:53

Alp, it is perhaps a classic case of fooling most of the people most of the time? However will something happen in the political sphere that prompts whistle blowing? Although for that I suppose there would have to be a meaningful difference between the political players? All I see is vanity, greed, and posturing, but no real willingness to make real changes.

That info regarding Swiss retail is interesting. Are warehouses over stuffed and they just need to create space?

[alphorn] 24/9/2020 18:42

On a totally different subject I am astounded at the level of discounting that is going on in Swiss supermarkets. Wine, fruit, coffee etc. Almost given away.
That must mean that there is serious over supply in the supply chain plus the need for suppliers to raise cash. In addition, the strength of CHF.

[alphorn] 24/9/2020 18:39

lef - I was looking forward to your post.

There is no doubt serious issues on the horizon. I just don't see that it could be hidden by a global, deliberate and calculated cover up. Perhaps it is me that is missing something?

I would also agree that many issues from 2008 were not totally sorted, especially outside of the USA.

I would also agree that there are many totally inept individuals around the place. .....and we have not even discussed Brexit yet!

Looking forwards - what would you say that individuals today should be doing to protect themselves?

Looking forward to your next post.

[lefrene] 24/9/2020 18:25

Alp, I don't go looking for "conspiracy theories", I look at the information available, and then look at what is happening in the public space, and there is to my mind a chasm.

The MBS whoopsie of 2008 cost far more than is generally known, circa $28 trillions. The $680 trillions derivatives market tottered when the repo market froze on 17th September 2019. A crazy situation of derivatives predicated upon company bonds, of loss making companies whose share prices are artificially propped up, by the Boards borrowing vast sums to buy in their own shares, thus pushing up the share price in order to get big bonuses. The scale of it is reckoned to be between four to ten times the size of the mortgage bond debacle. www,wallstreetonparade.com provide sources and references. There's a vast blackhole that needs plastering over, which is bound to take a good many companies down, with consequential huge job losses and the usual knock on effects on an economy of reduced consumer spending. No political party at the helm that allowed this to happen, is going to get re-voted in, for quite some time. You need a smoke screen.

Meanwhile over here, the person who played the inept bumbling school boy to further his political career, actually turns out to be an actual inept bumbling school boy. My guess he and his crew feel the need to get ahead of the curve in the game, to avoid being accused of being slack, thus brings in even more draconian rules about a disease which in normal times would be most likely ignored, as past flu epidemics have. This way he and his chums can claim they 'saved us' from something much worse (even if they didn't), and at the same time (just as in the USA) throw created money into the public space. I don't think that in normal economic times, with a genuine dangerous plague, that these things would have happened.

You would have isolated the island completely, put vulnerable groups out of harms way, and let the rest of the economy run as normally as possible. If you knew there was a cheap preventative medicine, you would have distributed it to ensure that things kept working. You wouldn't use advice from totally discredited sources (Fergusson and his ilk) as a reason to deliberately crash your economy.

I conclude that I don't know what is really going on, but what I do see is deliberate, calculated and nonsensical.

[jl5006] 24/9/2020 18:08

Gecko
I have said b4 - eat ur green esp cruciates and 100mg Vit c + zinc and Vit D when the sun dont shine.
Any Any advice to this simple aid - No!!
sure the malaria drug is an aid - why not endorse it as an aid to the immune system. Trump did and was pilloried

[jl5006] 24/9/2020 17:59

Sorry I forgot to add that Blue tooth is said to be at fault by the product producer.
Well well - never a human error - just like witless and liberty

[geckotheglorious] 24/9/2020 17:55

xxxxxy
Post 315401
"Biological systems are not simplistic. Survival of a virus is as important to the virus as survival of any other biological system.
Masks may accelerate the mutation rate and so humans actually become more susceptible.
Think about it. Or study some real biology"

Perhaps YOU should study some real biology because all my comments come from:
Dr Chris Martensen
Dr John Campbell.

I wouldn't listen to a word Dr Fauci,or any of his associates say frankly given the bombshell news recently.

US recommended daily dose Vit D - 600IU under 70 / 800IU over 70
UK fyi is only 400 IU

Dr Fauci is taking 6000IU.
And said nothing about why he is taking 10x the recommended daily dosage each day!!

CDC is a busted flush.
Ditto WHO.

You are being conned.

[xxxxxy] 24/9/2020 17:40

Mr Gove is great. Kent is great too.EUSSR is BAD.No DealWTO

[mikemichael2] 24/9/2020 17:22

Is there a strange smell wafting out of her attic??

[alphorn] 24/9/2020 16:59

Don't overexert your brain cell. Stoned already?

[aljm] 24/9/2020 16:48

Portside, you'd love my next door neighbour,single woman, 2 kids, 2 dogs, never worked a day in her life, just got herself a 70 plate car, fkn unbelievable,

[utyinv] 24/9/2020 16:44

There we are again Yanks dragging the FTSE down then when we close the Dow rockets.

Love to see the FTSE gain 2000 points and the Dow drop 10000 points. Devine retribution is long overdue

[alphorn] 24/9/2020 15:54

bb - is this what you are on about Kent?

Under new rules announced by Michael Gove and coming into effect next year in the instance of a no deal Brexit, lorry drivers will need a Kent Access Permit (KAP) to enter the county if they're delivering more than 7.5 tonnes of goods to be ferried to EU countries.

Wonderful idea - next will be a wall around Kent, or Kent UDI. ;)

[jl5006] 24/9/2020 15:40

Carefl- the seesaw is always the same - one side balances the other - just like the balance sheet ssssssssssssssSHOULD - but it didnt in Blair /Brown era - bcos they hid things away - pension liabilities - PFI deals etc- as bad as the Putins I guess - same pigeon hole.

[alphorn] 24/9/2020 15:27

No comment on FT's headline?
"Trump refuses to commit to peaceful transfer of power. US president also links need for Supreme Court appointment to a disputed election result".

Could well be some difficult days if the vote is close, either way.

[alphorn] 24/9/2020 15:21

I would not use 'will become' Careful.

[bargainbob] 24/9/2020 14:59

If you drive a Jazz does that mean you grow cucumbers ?

[alphorn] 24/9/2020 14:49

cheshire - based on Tetley (owned by Tata btw)?