Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[high value chips] 23/9/2020 14:11

If UK deals; it should be based on a ' EU being ravaged on a desk by UK MP's !
Now that would be interesting.

Otherwise....NO DEAL !

Cheers

[k38] 23/9/2020 14:07

After destroying countries and communities now they telling us..Ursula von del LEYEN says.." Europe's old migration plan wasn't working "....Lol..

[alphorn] 23/9/2020 14:00

k38:
"This is why I believe we will have a last minute deal"
30 mins later:
"I am for a no deal at this moment"

Do you know what day it is?

[k38] 23/9/2020 13:56

I am for a no deal at this moment.. let's finish what we started and negotiate after !!Brussels are not to be trusted (especially) now or after.

[alphorn] 23/9/2020 13:43

Pretty poor spokesperson "we hope we can make progress”.

Is hope all that they have got left?

[alphorn] 23/9/2020 13:41

"inequalities in the EU concept"

Any group of countries, states, cantons or counties will have inequalities of one sort or another. It is a pipedream to think it could be otherwise.

[utrickytrees] 23/9/2020 13:40

There wont be a deal K38. The UK has to check the EU's ambition to expand into Asia and prevent its evil federal plans. We are the only hope for the Southern Mediterranean countries who have been raped by and are now subservient to the EU. We are their beacon and have a duty show them the way out of this mess.

[freddie01] 23/9/2020 13:35

UK makes robust defence of its Brexit talks stance, still hopes to reach deal in October


The comments to this website come despite growing pessimism about the prospect of an agreement being thrashed out in time for the October deadline set by the EU.


Ahead of what are seen as “last chance saloon” talks, a UK government spokesman sought to strike an upbeat note, telling this website on Tuesday that the UK’s negotiating team had had “useful” recent informal discussions with the EU as it seeks to reach an agreement by mid-October on the future relationship between the two sides.

These, he said, covered a broad range of issues and some limited progress was made, but the spokesman added that “significant gaps” remain in key areas, including fisheries and subsidies.

“We will continue to work hard to bridge those gaps, in talks this week, without compromising our fundamental position of being an independent country.”

The EU is incensed at the UK’s Internal Market Bill - new legislation which overrides the Withdrawal Agreement.

In a Commons debate on Monday, former UK Prime Minister Theresa May said she “cannot support” the government’s plan to override parts of its Brexit agreement with the EU. She told MPs the move, which breaks international law, would damage “trust in the UK.”

The Bill will be voted on in the House of Commons on Tuesday, having passed its first hurdle last week.

“We will continue to work hard to bridge those gaps, in talks this week, without compromising our fundamental position of being an independent country” UK government spokesman

The Bill is designed to enable goods and services to flow freely across England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland when the UK leaves the EU's single market and customs union on 1 January. But it gives the government the power to change aspects of the EU Withdrawal Agreement, a legally binding deal governing the terms of the UK’s exit from the EU earlier this year.


Pressure is mounting on both sides to reach a compromise with the ninth round of talks due to start in Brussels on Monday.

There are meetings this week of the chief negotiators David Frost and Michel Barnier and their teams in London while, next week (28 September to 2 October), the ninth, and possibly last, round of negotiations will take place in Brussels.

The EU has put the summit on 15 October in its own timelines as the point for finalising an agreement.

On this, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson stated last week, “The EU has been very clear about the timetable. I am too. There needs to be an agreement with our European friends by the time of the European Council on 15 October if it’s going to be in force by the end of the year.”

Regarding the chances of reaching a future trade deal, the UK government spokesman told The Parliament Magazine, “We have been engaging with the EU and setting out our rationale for including the clauses related to the Northern Ireland Protocol in the Bill. We cannot allow the peace process or the UK’s internal market to inadvertently be compromised by unintended consequences of the protocol.”

“There is no way you can extrapolate from our approach to these very specific parts of the Treaty to the UK’s international behaviour more generally. As a country we stand for international law and the rules-based international system and always will” UK government spokesman

He pointed out that the UK’s Michael Gove and Commission Vice-President Maroš Šefčovi69; recently met, where Gove reinforced “that we are committed to the Joint Committee process and we hope we’ll reach a satisfactory outcome for both sides in that forum.”

The spokesman said, “Talks on our future relationship continue this week and we hope we can make progress.”

On the UK’s “international behaviour”, he went on, “we have set out the clear reasons why we have to take these steps - we cannot allow the peace process or the UK’s internal market to inadvertently be compromised by unintended consequences of the protocol. We expect other countries to recognise this and the exceptional circumstances we find ourselves in.”

He said, “There is no way you can extrapolate from our approach to these very specific parts of the Treaty to the UK’s international behaviour more generally. As a country we stand for international law and the rules-based international system and always will.”


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[high value chips] 23/9/2020 13:34

Well said K38 on your previous few posts!

UK should standup to those EU 'bullies' , its payback time if the PM can handle it!
What a opportunity for UK to power forward as the EU chains are cut for good.


Viva UK!


Cheers

[k38] 23/9/2020 13:24

By destroying the exports and industries of others, Germany became an economic power in Europe. Brussels (even if they have to hold back their own plans) will do what Germany will tell them and... Germany needs UK market even more than before. This is why I believe we will have a last minute deal!

[xxxxxy] 23/9/2020 13:21

Today: Internal Market Bill clears Commons and won't return until after EU summit. Meanwhile, EU set to reveal controversial mandatory migration rules as the British media is in hysterics over the government's worst-case scenario planning.Internal Market Bill clears crucial Commons hurdle: The Internal Market Bill, enabling the UK to neutralise EU threats in the event of a no deal Brexit, has cleared the committee stage after an amendment tabled by the government was accepted without the need for a vote. The legislation will return to the Commons next week with ministers intending to delay its final stages in the Lords until after a crunch EU summit in mid-October where they hope to sign off on a trade deal meaning the Bill would not return to the Commons again until December, just weeks before the transition period ends. Timetable gives EU a window to get serious:  With the Internal Market Bill to be used as a last resort if the EU continues to negotiate in bad faith, Downing Street are hoping the EU can use what little time is left to get serious about reaching an agreement, using the summit as a chance to get a deal done. The move is being seen as an attempt to curb fears in Brussels over the Internal Market Bill, giving leaders an opportunity to hash out a deal at the make-or-break summit. Delaying its passage suggests ministers are keen to give negotiators as long as possible to reach agreement over the border even if trade talks collapse. Sources also told the Times that despite posturing on both sides, some progress had been made on the issues of subsidies and checks on goods crossing the Irish Sea, so it looks like Downing Street's plan of focusing minds may be beginning to pay off.Another source said that if a deal could be struck ministers could withdraw the bill. "If we can reach a deal there will be no need for them," they said.EU plans for no-deal future: This comes as Brussels starts planning for the future on the basis of a no deal with Britain. According to the Sun, Eurocrats will issue their next economic forecast for the bloc expecting such an outcome. In the meantime, David Frost and Michel Barnier will hold informal talks to set out a way forward when they return to the negotiating table in Brussels at the end of next month. Media hysteria over worst-case scenario planning: Much of the British press are focusing on the government's 'worst-case scenario' planning. The letter sent to logistics groups warns that if trucks crossing the Channel are not ready for new regulations, and if there is a lack of capacity to hold unready trucks at French ports, then you could see a reduction in the flow of traffic across the strait to 60-80% of normal levels.Of course, the government has always known that they can be as prepared as they like and still complications will arise, and even then traffic going across the Channel still depends on how ready the French ports and infrastructure is. In the letter Michael Gove says "Simply put, if traders, both in the UK and EU, have not completed the right paperwork, their goods will be stopped when entering the EU and disruption will occur. It is essential that traders act now and get ready for new formalities."The potential for disruption at the border has always been a possibility, particularly in the event of a no-deal, but many news sites this morning are treating this 'worst-case scenario' as if it is happening on the M20 right now with Playbook even calling it 'no-deal doomsday'. Swiss to vote on tearing up EU free movement pact: Swiss voters will decide on Sunday whether or not to tear up a pact with the European Union on the free movement of people with the vote being backed by the country's largest parliamentary party. An EU treaty in Switzerland was also stalled after critics warned that it would force Bern to routinely adopt single market rules, infringing too much on Swiss sovereignty. EU's new mandatory rules on migration: The EU is set to detail new, mandatory measures on managing migration. The German-backed migration pact is expected to provide funding for member states in return for hosting refugees. Previous similar proposals have been met with a lot of opposition from member states and Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz has already cast doubt on the idea of distributing asylum seekers across Europe. "It won't work like this," he told the AFP news agency.On the site today: The first of today's articles is written by Jacob Young, the Conservative MP for Redcar and Harry Theochari, the chair of Maritime UK. It calls for support for the UK's coastal communities and to put them at the centre of the UK's economic recovery. You can read the full article here.Our second article is from Jayne Adye, director of grassroots Eurosceptic campaign Get Britain Out. Her article addresses some of the problems with the Withdrawal Agreement that still persist even with the Internal Market Bill. You can read the full article here.For the latest news and developments throughout the day, please do follow @GlobalVision_UK on Twitter.Thanks for reading, and enjoy the rest of your day.

[poikka] 23/9/2020 13:09

This tells a story about the inequalities in the EU concept - the German PMI is coming in at 53.7, while the eurozone PMI, as a whole, is registering 50.1 in September.

Leave it to readers imagination to consider the implications for the periphery countries.

UK is 55 something.

[sikhthetech] 23/9/2020 12:50

scruff,

there are lots of reasons why shares can move but this morning the ftse is up because the govn announced new restrictions which were more of a 'warning' than a stricter lockdown, so they weren't as bad as feared.

[k38] 23/9/2020 12:46

Brussels has one interest in UK, to control LONDON finance and business. Whoever control London controls the world money.

[k38] 23/9/2020 12:42

Pls use the word "Brussels"... EU means (dead now) European (countries) union.

[minerve 2] 23/9/2020 12:40

Yeah, right cheshire.

Can we all have some of that space dust your consuming.

ROFLMAO!

[cheshire pete] 23/9/2020 12:36

EU will soon get past the paperwork if it means they're going to run short. We'll have trade deals all over the world. EU can go whistle if they try and be difficult.

[investtofly] 23/9/2020 12:30

The truth is they don't know what to do so are putting tighter restrictions until we revolt

[investtofly] 23/9/2020 12:24

So the Virus is on the increase, so why are the enforcing lockdown on people living here then on the next breath allowing airlines from infected countries to fly into the U.K. Some have even increased their schedules ie Air India

[mr.elbee] 23/9/2020 12:09

Boris will be gone by Xmas..he cant live on the money

[cheshire pete] 23/9/2020 11:49

For years the lefties have been banging on about UK being service sector based and no longer (union backed) manufacturing. Is it not the case though that service industries will recover from the pandemic more quickly as not as reliant on complex supply chains, materials, components etc.? We can recover quicker than other European countries, and looking at the COVID case graphs of Spain and Italy the gradients are less steep, which is also encouraging.

grahamite: Boris is a liberal conservative and believer in freedom of the individual rather than state control and I can't believe he'd be taking these steps unless he's absolutely convinced that they're necessary.

[utrickytrees] 23/9/2020 11:47

Spain's death rate has jumped up a bit tbf. It's all well & good folk staying look at Sweden they can have gatherings of 50 blar blar blar, but our country is full of folk who dont speak english or are following Sharia covid guidelines.