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[grahamite2] 01/6/2020 08:30

buywell31 Jun '20 - 08:15 - 305931 of 305933

Dem Governors , Dem Mayors and Dem Police Chiefs all look set to throw police under the bus now .

If police decide to throw in the towel , anarchy is days away

If you're right, the Democrats will have caused that anarchy and will be seen to have caused it. That makes a Trump victory more likely than ever - so it's not all bad.

[gotnorolex] 01/6/2020 08:26

Good riddance to Corbyn and Bercow who clearly were fifth columnists!

[mikemichael2] 01/6/2020 08:22

Should be good for the pound buypoor.

[buywell3] 01/6/2020 08:15

USA thin blue line now under threat

Dem Governors , Dem Mayors and Dem Police Chiefs all look set to throw police under the bus now .

If police decide to throw in the towel , anarchy is days away

[mikemichael2] 01/6/2020 08:15

So much for Sweden's 'differant' approach.

Sweden’s coronavirus experiment has well and truly failed
The country gained early praise from some for shunning lockdown, but it now has one of the highest per-capita rates of coronavirus death in the world

[patientcapital] 01/6/2020 08:10

And Watson.

[grahamite2] 01/6/2020 08:04

What on earth made Corbyn propose Bercow for a peerage? Sheer malice?

Well done Boris for putting a stop to it.

[mikemichael2] 01/6/2020 08:00

You will have a long wait.

[buywell3] 01/6/2020 07:59

buywell hopes the new BOE Governor does not listen or go along with the RBS idea for a toxic fund creation.

Bankrolled by Government debt ie taxpayers monies

The idea would IMO be to protect banks from bad loans

buywell does not buy it that the toxic fund would just be for bad Covid Loans due to businesses going bust.

So far this new Governor has shown he is not afraid to stand up to the banks

Let us hope he tells the COE where and when he is wrong

IMO dyor

[xxxxxy] 01/6/2020 07:33

Death rates and methods of controlBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JUNE 1, 2020There are a number of emails and comment around claiming the UK and the US have the highest death rates. They often go on to blame their two governments which  they do not like and argue there should have been an earlier and tougher lockdown.The authors should check their facts. We need to look at deaths per million, not at the absolute level, as of course larger countries are likely to record more deaths than smaller countries. On the published figures Belgium has experienced the highest death rate so far, followed by Spain, and then the U.K. The US is considerably lower, below France and Italy which are a little below the U.K.There are differences in how the figures are compiled. The UK has gone out of its way to maximise deaths attributed to CV 19 by including care home and community deaths when other countries concentrated on hospital deaths. The U.K. has also recorded many care home and community deaths as CV 19 when no test was taken to see if the patient had it, and when it may have been other serious medical conditions they suffered from that killed them.The Uk death rate is worrying , as are the rates of most European countries. In the USA the worst figures have been recorded in New York where a Democrat Mayor enforced a tough lock down early. It may be that very large cities like NY and London are particularly prone to virus spreading, so the absence of such huge cities in countries like Germany that have done a lot better may be part of the reason.Sweden adopted social distancing but no lock down. Her figures are better than Belgium , France, Italy and Spain who went for a full lock down.Now UK government officials claim they can test 200,000 people a day and have recruited a lot of trackers it is important every new case is followed up on notification to understand why and how it has been transmitted. There is no simple identity between tough and long lockdowns and low death rates on the numbers we have seen.We also need evidence from the experts on which health systems have achieved the best recovery rates for patients and which treatment does most to lower the death rates in serious cases. There has been no full statement at U.K. government news conferences about recovery rates from intensive care and which treatments have worked best.There has been the recent adoption of an existing anti viral drug as a helpful treatment after initial resistance to the idea that current drugs could help, whilst we are told some other approved drugs are being tested on CV 19 patients. How did Germany and the USA achieve lower death rates?

[vauch] 01/6/2020 07:22

Buywell.
Well it is all doom and gloom, now you have got the bad stuff out the way can you now post a list of the positives.
Don't fell the need to hold back as we all await the flip side of the other posting

[smartie6] 01/6/2020 06:15

Buywell you’re full of it. Deception, look no further than your posts.

[buywell3] 01/6/2020 04:01

boris

You should privatize or sell the BBC and get circa $10 Billion

Use it along with the $50 Billion for switching NOW to no EU trade deal no EU pay off

And spend $60 Billion PROMPTLY on new Hospitals , new ICU's and more nurses and doctors

Announce some GOOD news quick before the UK follows the USA








A recap of the problem list in what buywell believes is cost implication
Once again the USA is picked as the leader





1. Covid-19 - includes
a) Businesses going bust
b) 45M plus and growing out of work on benefits
c) Debt mountain to keep the lights on
d) Bigger Debt mountain to repair economy
e) Rebuild cost of Hospitals to equip properly for SARS-COV-3
f) Long term health costs due to covid mental and physical damage to survivors


2. China/USA Trade implications - includes
a) On going trade sanctions have not been sorted
b) Covid-19 creation/blame has worsened trade sanctions and created new ones
c) Hong Kong SPECIAL TREATMENT by USA for trade now likely to cease
d) USA looking to delist Chinese companies from USA exchanges
e) USA looking to prevent new Chinese companies listing on USA exchanges
f) USA president looking to penalise USA companies trading with China


3. Meat and Food price inflation rising at fastest rates in decades-BUT
a) Consumer prices are deflating at the fastest rate for decades
b) Stagflation has arrived


4. Numbers of USA People living in poverty set to rocket -
a) Between 38% and 78% of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck
b) 33% plus newly unemployed will mean another possible 50% plus enter poverty
c) USA household debt rose to $14.3 trillion in the first three months of 2020
d) $1.6 trillion more than the record set in the last financial crisis 2007/8


5. Having no money, no job and no future prospects fuels anger at the system
a) A policeman killed a black man whilst three other policemen watched
b) 11 USA states have called out the National Guard
c) 24 USA cities are in curfew emergency measures
d) There are curfews in place in Minneapolis, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Atlanta, Denver, Philadelphia, Pittsburg, Seattle, Miami, Cleveland, Columbus, Portland, Milwaukee and Salt Lake City.
e) Damage to property continues apace , damage to public trust continues likewise


6. Mr Fauci has just said that a second wave of covid-19 is not inevitable
a) Due to 5. Social distancing measures put in place have ceased
b) Numbers of people allowed in shops or gatherings have also ceased
c) USA riots are now in the process of creating the Covid-Wave 2

7. Covid-19 measures put in place in many other countries including the UK now also compromised
a)
b) This will both now increase the size of current Covid Wave 1
c) Also shorten the grace period in many countries that have unlocked
d) Hence also speed up the start and size of Covid-19 Wave 2
e) Other European countries held protests in solidarity as well over the weekend


IMO dyor

[buywell3] 01/6/2020 03:09

Apart from this



A recap of the problem list in what buywell believes is cost implication
Once again the USA is picked as the leader





1. Covid-19 - includes
a) Businesses going bust
b) 45M plus and growing out of work on benefits
c) Debt mountain to keep the lights on
d) Bigger Debt mountain to repair economy
e) Rebuild cost of Hospitals to equip properly for SARS-COV-3
f) Long term health costs due to covid mental and physical damage to survivors


2. China/USA Trade implications - includes
a) On going trade sanctions have not been sorted
b) Covid-19 creation/blame has worsened trade sanctions and created new ones
c) Hong Kong SPECIAL TREATMENT by USA for trade now likely to cease
d) USA looking to delist Chinese companies from USA exchanges
e) USA looking to prevent new Chinese companies listing on USA exchanges
f) USA president looking to penalise USA companies trading with China


3. Meat and Food price inflation rising at fastest rates in decades-BUT
a) Consumer prices are deflating at the fastest rate for decades
b) Stagflation has arrived


4. Numbers of USA People living in poverty set to rocket -
a) Between 38% and 78% of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck
b) 33% plus newly unemployed will mean another possible 50% plus enter poverty
c) USA household debt rose to $14.3 trillion in the first three months of 2020
d) $1.6 trillion more than the record set in the last financial crisis 2007/8


5. Having no money, no job and no future prospects fuels anger at the system
a) A policeman killed a black man whilst three other policemen watched
b) 11 USA states have called out the National Guard
c) 24 USA cities are in curfew emergency measures
d) There are curfews in place in Minneapolis, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Atlanta, Denver, Philadelphia, Pittsburg, Seattle, Miami, Cleveland, Columbus, Portland, Milwaukee and Salt Lake City.
e) Damage to property continues apace , damage to public trust continues likewise


6. Mr Fauci has just said that a second wave of covid-19 is not inevitable
a) Due to 5. Social distancing measures put in place have ceased
b) Numbers of people allowed in shops or gatherings have also ceased
c) USA riots are now in the process of creating the Covid-Wave 2

7. Covid-19 measures put in place in many other countries including the UK now also compromised
a)
b) This will both now increase the size of current Covid Wave 1
c) Also shorten the grace period in many countries that have unlocked
d) Hence also speed up the start and size of Covid-19 Wave 2
e) Other European countries held protests in solidarity as well over the weekend


IMO dyor

[mitchy] 01/6/2020 01:43

Can't see any reasons to be cheerful this coming week.

[buywell3] 31/5/2020 22:50

Some posters are not what they seem , obfuscation is their aim , deception is their game.

What some posters here do not realize about those countries that locked down very early and stayed locked down longer , some like Australia and NZ still are.


With very low case numbers (or deaths)


Virtually no 'herd immunity' has been gained by these populations


In the absence of a vaccine that works being given to such populations , airplane travel or cruise ship arrivals allowing International travelers to land is akin to inviting a HIV positive person to court your young daughter or someone with advanced TB coming round for sunday lunch with the family.


Such countries have DELAYED the inevitable for now , at a massive cost to their economies.

They are sitting ducks for Wave 2

Wave 1 is still building and looks like hitting 10M cases by end of July , when hot summer weather in the Northern Hemisphere should ease the wave down for about 2 months before it builds again.

If the DOW Jones in the US of A goes up today
U know the game is rigged is what buywell say
And if so at a National Level no less
What a financial stinking horrible mess

dyor

[buywell3] 31/5/2020 22:44

What some posters here do not realize about those countries that locked down very early and stayed locked down longer , some like Australia and NZ still are.


With very low case numbers (or deaths)


Virtually no 'herd immunity' has been gained by these populations


In the absence of a vaccine that works being given to such populations , airplane travel or cruise ship arrivals allowing International travelers to land is akin to inviting a HIV positive person to court your young daughter or someone with advanced TB coming round for sunday lunch with the family.


Such countries have DELAYED the inevitable for now , at a massive cost to their economies.

They are sitting ducks for Wave 2

Wave 1 is still building and looks like hitting 10M cases by end of July , when hot summer weather in the Northern Hemisphere should ease the wave down for about 2 months before it builds again.

If the DOW Jones in the US of A goes up today
U know the game is rigged is what buywell say
And if so at a National Level no less
What a financial stinking horrible mess

dyor

[minerve 2] 31/5/2020 22:02

The wannabe trader who really should be betting on the horses.

The thread Trotter, probably got a room full of blow up dolls he got off the back of a lorry looking to do a deal with you to make him a millionaire.

Isn’t that right Rodders.

LOL

[minerve 2] 31/5/2020 21:58

Would a millionaire be worried about a £157 BBC licence fee?

I think not.

Jacko NORY

[jacko07] 31/5/2020 21:26

bb...Are the rumours true that Ian 'fatty' Blackford is transgending to female and Wee Jimmy has earings made from his shrivelled balls.

[jl5006] 31/5/2020 20:29

Maybe
The immune system is built or destroyed by antibiotics.
Think back
No never
denial is the ask of the NHS who should say no.
So it it is not the saviour of our society but the refusal to accept that those who continue to deny that they that need to change will prejudice the few that merit periodically.
Think about that and why U occasionally cant get an appointment