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[action] 30/5/2020 19:20

Better for housing demand in UK and lot of foreign capital inflows.

[jl5006] 30/5/2020 19:13

I thought Oxford and AZ were claiming also.
Just hype until the trial results are known.
Not a word though from the GSK French JV - prudent.

[careful] 30/5/2020 19:07

You have to laugh.
I watch CNBC and every day the Americans always boast about their brilliance, masters of the universe.

Now the Chinese are claiming a COVID19 vaccine.

Will Trump thank them if it is true?
'We owe the Chinese scientists a great debt..etc'

I think not.

[jl5006] 30/5/2020 19:01

We shall see what happens
The criteria for selection and the resultant report will be software driven.
Will be interesting to see how robots manage the new conjunctions - over amid - and produce an objective report.
Unlikely of course - objective reporting went out 50 years or more ago.

BTW freddie 5689 Thailand successfully combined the malaria drug and HIV drug mix to enhance the immune system v c 19
Think that was in March - nobody really took up the point - just mocked Trump.

The small things are missed in the mass hysteria in today's media. Most of it not worth the print ink.

[careful] 30/5/2020 19:00

I remember all of that azalea.

It was apparently illegal to invade without a second UN resolution.
But there was a bit of wriggle room. If there was evidence of weapons of mass destruction then invasion could be justified.

There were none as we all knew, and there was a whitewash enquiry and a massive government report but that was after the event. We had all lost interest.
The so called expert on Iraq supposedly cut his own wrists and died before the scandal erupted.

how many of us believe it was suicide?

[poikka] 30/5/2020 18:31

Could this be the saviour of the BBC? Maybe, but only if 'presenters' were replaced by robots, and only if the robots were programmed by politically independent programmers - or at least, monitored by all sides for bias.

"Microsoft is to replace dozens of contract journalists on its MSN website and use automated systems to select news stories, US and UK media report.

The curating of stories from news organisations and selection of headlines and pictures for the MSN site is currently done by journalists.

Artificial intelligence will perform these news production tasks, sources told the Seattle Times."

[alphorn] 30/5/2020 17:41

The right moment - Sovereign wealth funds - Saudis transfer $40bn to back wealth fund’s spending spree. Finance minister confirms move as kingdom seeks to scoop up foreign assets at depressed prices.

[careful] 30/5/2020 17:18

The real problem with our democracy is that no matter how awful or incompetent the Tories are, there is no alternative.

We had to vote Tory in the last election, Corbyn would have been a disaster.Imagine after the lockdown he would have the perfect excuse for nationalising everything at very low prices.

Even most Scots worry about the long term risks of voting for independence and handing power to annoying Nicola. On balance they would be better off within the UK.

The Tories won the last election easily, not because we admire them or because we want Brexit, but because the alternatives would be a disaster.

[bargainbob] 30/5/2020 17:14

Britain has opened the door to up to
350 thousand people from Hong Kong with BNO passports . Though reports indicate 3 million could qualify , should events escalate

[utrickytrees] 30/5/2020 16:52

I find the Tories idea of forming a club with the Yanks & other G7 countries Australia, India & South Korea a very positive response to our current situations with China & Europe. Having to drag the contrarian Jocks around is becoming so tiresome. It's like having a narrow minded risk averse employee, if you listened to the idiot your company would only contract & eventually circle the drain. Which is precisely what has been happening in Scotland for the last 30yrs. Scotland isn't a stand alone nation, we dont even ask their opinion but they continue to chip in with their irrelevant views.....just FO.

[xxxxxy] 30/5/2020 15:00

People think Dominic Cummings made a terrible blunder. Actually it was a strategic masterstrokeEveryone has treated the row as a disaster for the Government. But perhaps it was all part of a brilliantly worked planMICHAEL DEACONPARLIAMENTARY SKETCHWRITER30 May 2020 • 7:00am??Here's a thought. For a whole week now, Dominic Cummings has been mocked and excoriated for his Covid road trip. The story has caused no end of grief for the Prime Minister, for the Government, and of course for Mr Cummings himself.But what if this was his plan all along?Think about it. This is a man, don't forget, with a deserved reputation as a modern-day Machiavelli, a schemer supreme, a grandmaster of 4D chess. I posit, therefore, that Mr Cummings's delightful motoring tour of northeast England was not, contrary to popular belief, a ruinous political blunder. Quite the reverse. It was, instead, a dazzling strategic masterstroke.Daily Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 30/5/2020 14:31

EXCLUSIVE – SNP's Blackford & LibDem's Davey to land taxpayers with new £120bn EU billWe reveal what SNP, LibDems, Plaid, SDLP, Alliance, Greens want you to pay to the EU?© Brexit Facts4EU.OrgEU's new £2.2TN package turns any extension of Transition Period into a shockerThis week a set of announcements from the EU made the UK's full departure this year a necessity. The news also leaves opposition leaders Ian Blackford (SNP) and Sir Ed Davey (LibDems) with some serious questions to answer.On Wednesday in Brussels the EU Commission unveiled its financial plans for the EU for the next seven year budget cycle. These plans show at least some of the massive costs which would be incurred by the United Kingdom, were the British Government to agree to extend the Transition Period beyond the end of this year.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYThe EU Commission's proposed new budgetsThree safety nets of €540 billion in loans, already agreed by EU Parliament and CouncilNew recovery instrument, called Next Generation EU – worth €750 billionRevamped EU budget of €157 billion per year for seven yearsTOTAL : €2.4 trillion (approx £2.2 TRILLION GBP) over the next seven yearsThe impact on the UK if the opposition parties got their wayHere is what this could mean for the UK's finances, if the SNP, LibDems, Plaid Cymru, SDLP, Alliance, and Greens succeeded in getting the Transition Period extended. Looking solely at the new EU budget and the "Next Generation EU" rescue package, the calculation of the UK's potential liability to the EU is:-Approx £120 billion GBPThis would be incured if the UK sought a two-year extension to the Transition Period(Based on the UK's historic average of paying 12.5% of the EU's bills, and based on the EU's usual justifications of demands for payment.)Leaders of six opposition parties would open up the UK to this massive extra bill from the EU?   ?   ?   ?   ?   ?Six minority party leaders signed the letter to Michel BarnierThey lead parties accounting for just 19.5% of the electorateNone of the party leaders representing 80.5% of the electorate signed the letterMost readers will know that the leaders of several minor opposition parties at Westminster – all of whom are anti-Brexit and who are pictured above – wrote to Michel Barnier last week, requesting a two-year extension. He replied saying the EU would agree.The letter to Monsieur Barnier was signed by the SNP leader Ian Blackford, acting Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey, Plaid Cymru leader Liz Saville Roberts, Green MP Caroline Lucas, Stephen Farry, MP from the Alliance Party, and fellow Northern Ireland MP and leader of the SDLP at Westminster, Colum Eastwood.Monsieur Barnier replied, and we published his letter in our article on Thursday here.In the United Kingdom General Election of December 2019 – only six months ago - the combined votes for the six parties who signed the letter to Michel Barnier barely made it over six million. They represented only 19.5% of the voters and have 66 MPs out of a total of 650 in the House of Commons.Notes on the calculations for the extra billOur calculations cover the two years of the extension to the Transition Period requested by the SNP's Ian Blackford, the LibDem's Ed Davey, and their colleagues from other parties. We have only included the usual EU budget contributions and the liability for the EU's proposed "Next Generation EU" €750 billion rescue package.Whilst a third of the rescue package is supposedly a loan, the EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen says payments "will be channelled through the European budget. And this will limit each country's contribution according to a fixed formula." In other words, it seems that recipient countries will be expected to pay back according to their net contributions, and 17 of the EU27 countries do not contribute in net terms at all. Whether any recipient countries ever do pay back these loans is a big question.It is worth reminding the opposition leaders that the EU would be highly unlikely to agree to a continuation of the UK's large rebate as it stands. This means that the UK's contributions to the annual budget could increase substantially. It should also be stated that when the UK voted to leave the EU, the EU held the UK responsible for all possible future payments for projects which had been envisaged but had not even remotely started. This is one of the reasons that the disastrous £39 billion "divorce bill" was so high.For these and other reasons based on five years of daily, detailed study of the EU, we believe that opposition leaders should be ready to justify to the British public an overall extra bill from the EU of more than the magnitude we have indicated.Finally, and for comparison purposes, the Centre for Brexit Policy recently published its own report on the costs of extending the Transition Period. Their report concluded that extending for two years beyond 31 December 2020 – as the smaller opposition parties want – would cost the UK £378 billion. And this was BEFORE the EU announced its proposals last week for increased funds.To reiterate, our calculation of an extra liability of £120 billion to the EU is only based on a very conservative estimate of the usual annual contributions, plus the liability for the EU's new rescue package.OBSERVATIONSThe anti-democratic antics of these MPs, colluding with a foreign power against the policies of the democratically-elected Government of the United Kingdom, have attracted significant criticism, not the least of which has come from us.In addition, our opinion is that Monsieur Barnier's reply last week constituted interference in the sovereign affairs of the United Kingdom – the EU's most powerful economic neighbour.Send the bill to the headquarters of all the smaller partiesAbove we have revealed one part of the huge cost which these opposition MPs wish to impose on the British people. Have they remotely thought this through? Have they even begun to tell the voters just how much more of people's hard-earned money they would be committing to spend?For these politicians, the Coronavirus is merely another excuse to try to thwart Brexit. They don't care about the added period of economic uncertainty they would cause. They don't care about the democratically-expressed decision of the British people. They simply want to stop Brexit at all costs.The Government must press firmly ahead with Brexit next weekWhen David Frost and his UK negotiating team go in to bat against Michel Barnier and his Eureaucrats in the fourth round of the trade talks next week, we hope they will do so knowing that a great many British people are behind them.Boris Johnson has made it perfectly clear that the Transition Period will not be extended. He even encapsulated this into law. David Frost has repeated this clear policy, as recently as this week. We suggest that Monsieur Barnier stops clutching at straws - and at straw men and women from smaller UK parties which are nowhere near the reins of power.Mr Barnier should tell his masters and mistresses in the EU27's capitals that the EU will have to back down across the board if he is to get a trade deal with the United Kingdom.If you have never donated towards our work, may we suggest that today would be a good day to do so? Work like ours is immensely time-consuming, which is possibly why so few people seem to do it. Quick and secure donation methods are below. Your details will be confidential unless you expressly tell us otherwise. 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[mikemichael2] 30/5/2020 14:26

Alp, i was talking about some average joe public, not a minority rich Brit, living in the Alps trading currencies for a living.

[alphorn] 30/5/2020 14:11

mm2 - "chaos and financial melt down"

On a personal basis there are opportunities of a lifetime, or at least several decades, to be taken. Some people have.

Certainly not easy to predict and actually do something.

I apologise if I have wasted your time and mine.

[bobdiamond1] 30/5/2020 14:07

bargainbob..there are less people in Scotland aren't there. Are the figures less per capita.

[bargainbob] 30/5/2020 13:54

Utricky get a grip m8 , deaths rates are much less up here . I really for fear for England at the moment .

[mikemichael2] 30/5/2020 13:43

My question to Buywell and Alp was purely a response of their 'dire' prediction of our catastrophic future (all down to brexit Min) however, i was not looking for some personal advice.

It is quite easy to predict chaos and financial melt down, but no one seems to come up with a solution.