Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[minerve 2] 26/4/2020 20:29

I don't know of any other country where "the party donors" dictate government policy so overtly.
They have effectively bought the government.
Is this the famous British democracy?
Not even Trump does that.

[minerve 2] 26/4/2020 20:21

OK all far right boys. April ends on Thursday so you have four days to come up with good excuses for the government's missing the target of 100k tests a day. Time to go to work boys!

To help you get started, there are some ideas you might want to build on:

- The Labour government sabotaged it in 2014
- The country is densely populated
- The EU
- The dog ate their homework
- Immigration
- We won the war
- We couldn't fudge the numbers...


I am sure you can take it from here and that you won't let us down.

I look forward to seeing the result f your work on Thursday.

[minerve 2] 26/4/2020 20:18

Let me explain in a bit of a vivid manner in terms of how this started and where it went wrong:-

Master plan Cummings..fudge the numbers. I herd you. Deny testing to the public then we don't have to report any increases. Tell people to stay at home and never to call 111. No one will ever know. We won't even test them if they die. The stats will look great. Don't test anyone coming through airports or entry points that will help keep reported numbers down. Otherwise business as usual with schools and work. We will have the best stats in the world soon. My Brexit will be a great success already. Oh and tell doctors they are not allowed to test or send any patients to be tested anymore. no need for the world to know that we lost 10,000 EU NHS nurses and doctors since our glorious referendum. Ba ha ha take care of yourself because we certainly won't...ps if anyone asks remember to say we are following the Science, which may change every 24 hours....we got this x

[minerve 2] 26/4/2020 20:16

Why does Boris have a job to go back to?

He should have acted in January when the virus appeared. We needed testing, contact tracing and border screening then not now. It's far too late and thousands have died as a consequence. He was always light on detail and big on bravado. This approach doesn't work in a crisis as we can see.

Populist incompetence costs lives.

[diku] 26/4/2020 20:07

ADVFN lloy thread is the bedroom...




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I hope your more adventurous in the bedroom M2?

[minerve 2] 26/4/2020 20:05

Boris raring to go.

OK, Boris, heard it all before.

Closed parliament, off ill for a month or so (probably made it all up), two extended holidays, probably another month paternity leave.

The invisible wet-lettuce PM.

[minerve 2] 26/4/2020 20:03

The government don't want to help Branson because he is a Remainer. They want Virgin Atlantic to go into administration so the PE mates of government can get it on the cheap. You watch.

[minerve 2] 26/4/2020 20:00

Brexiters should all face manslaughter charges.

[jl5006] 26/4/2020 19:56

But we have had this syndrome for decades. The avuncular head of WTF stated that ventilators were paramount without the need for current knowledge. O2 masks to increase O2 need
I guess we are being ruled by C Service who only know what they knew and heath pros who have never attended a course for today.
most professions need an update to continue to work -
Does that apply to WHO - DFH PHE CCC VQ - not to the Quangos I believe and ? the associates
The fan will be hit

[mr.elbee] 26/4/2020 19:41

yes, it is a total stitch up . so many retired epidemiologists giving the details and anecdotal evidence is the same.
But these interviews have Trump and Boris waiting.....

the public will metaphorically lynch these guys with the rope they have been given I have no doubt...so when public opinion and the media realise what clowns they have been at a huge cost to all of us.

they will be toast and the politicos will only be doing the will of the people

AND IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN

[poikka] 26/4/2020 19:11

Minnie would far rather that the government just guessed what the best strategy would be for dealing with the virus than actually taking note of the best opinion that they could get.

What an utter dope. Actually, I'm wrong, he's just a sad old troll, along with Julie Andrews.

[mr.elbee] 26/4/2020 19:03

so much fraud in the number collection here..and the doctors in charge look extremely dodgy

good enough for me.......... co-morbidity is what your nurse friend is experiencing..

and the stats dont reflect this.

[jl5006] 26/4/2020 18:30

What a train of thought
I expect the share price to go lower and I will drip feed - fine
I expect the share price to be at this level later so
No - I am confident that the share price is not a true reflection of the value of the company
and will drip feed - hoping for an upturn.

[jl5006] 26/4/2020 18:20

Interesting comment in the tele by John Ashton - ex Dir NW PHE.
Why has the dept spent money on 5 Million miles of air travel in last 3 yrs? Was that not the remit of Dfid?
Are all these ppl on the take?

[xxxxxy] 26/4/2020 18:05

Going forward policy.Made in the UK. FirstProduce of the UK. FirstNo Deal with the EUSSRAnd a Deal with the USA. Great

[utrickytrees] 26/4/2020 18:05

Uncharted water JL5, plenty of wannabes wanting to make a name for themselves, opportunity knocks!

[xxxxxy] 26/4/2020 18:03

?Ministers spell out that there will be a 'new normal' when lockdown ends, as plans are developed for 'track and trace' apps and quarantine for new arrivals at ports and airports. Meanwhile EU and UK still far apart on key Brexit negotiation issues, as the EU27 see a battle for the bloc's survival in Covid rescue package rows.As the UK heads into the sixth week of lockdown, the death toll has risen to over 20,000, surpassing the figure that England's National Medical Director, Prof Stephen Powis, said would be an overall 'good outcome'. Although official figures show that the UK has reached the initial peak, daily numbers of deaths are still high and with scientists on SAGE warning of the consequences of lifting lockdown too soon, Boris will face a dilemma as he returns to Downing Street tomorrow.Aware that the public are tiring of lockdown and worried about the effects of the pandemic measures on the economy, government ministers are starting to talk about the strategies for the second phase - although without 'speculating about the individual measures' .However, Home Secretary Priti Patel and Transport Secretary Grant Shapps are apparently overseeing plans whereby both returning British residents and foreigners quarantined for 14 days on return to the UK. The government are also looking at a 'track and trace' app to enable more effective containment of infected individuals. These two steps have proved successful in reducing cases in countries like Singapore.Work is also taking place on guidelines that will introduce a 'new normal' for businesses, with strict social distancing conditions to be put in place as shops, workplaces and public spaces are opened up in advance of a decision on re-opening schools. Party donors and leading business men have been appealing to Boris Johnson to ease the restrictions and get the economy up and running again.Gerard Lyon's warns in The Telegraph that the UK could be the Western economy hardest hit by Coronavirus, while others point out that recessions can be just as fatal as a novel virus for many people.Dominic Raab has appeared on the Marr Show to respond to criticism of the government over supplies of sufficient stocks of PPE, saying "There is no stone being left unturned in relation to either domestic production or supply, or the international supply of PPE."China has now been removed from Downing Street's comparisons of other countries' responses to coronavirus amid suspicions that their official figures have vastly downplayed the scale of the outbreak, with some experts suggesting that the truth may be four times higher than the numbers released.Conservative MP Tom Tugendhat, the Chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee has set up a 'China Research Group' in Parliament to "promote debate and fresh thinking" over Britain's relationship with China. Modelled after the extremely effective ERG eurosceptic group, this will be one to watch when the debate over Huawei returns to the table. As Mr Tugendhat says "There's no point taking back control from Brussels and handing it to Beijing."Brussels on the other hand has folded to pressure from China and softened a report looking at how governments have pushed disinformation about the coronavirus pandemic. EU officials first delayed and then rewrote their document in a way that removed the focus from China. Following Michel Barnier's speech on Friday, at the end of the second round of Brexit trade talks, where he insisted that the EU will not agree "any future economic partnership" that doesn't include a long-term solution on level fisheries or level playing fields, UK negotiator David Frost, has said the bloc's demands in these areas are unacceptable and "unlike anything agreed" in other free trade agreements "and we will not agree to it here."The Telegraph reports that government sources have said that "Ahead of round three there needs to be a political injection on the EU side to move the negotiations forward, particularly on this issue and level playing field." and that the EU negotiators were simply "not used to this dynamic" of the UK "standing up for itself" and refusing to table unworkable proposals "just to keep talks going".Other EU leaders feel that the chances of a good deal being reached before the deadline are now almost impossible, especially whilst they are dealing with thefallout from the Covid-19 crisis in their own countries and within the EU27, with French President Macron issuing an ultimatum to Europe's frugal northern bloc, which includes Germany and the Netherlands, and telling them to either help bail out the southern states or lose the Single Market. Finally, Britain has said that it is ready to start trade negotiations with the United States but is waiting for agreement on whether those negotiations can now be conducted virtually. New British ambassador to the US, Karen Pierce, has said that a move to get going quickly on the bilateral trade negotiations would "put a bit of optimism into the world economy."For the latest news and developments throughout the week, please do follow @GlobalVision_UK on Twitter and via our daily briefing.

[minerve 2] 26/4/2020 18:03

Starmer is right. We need to know the exit strategy so businesses can plan, rumours and conjecture are eliminated and expectations are correctly set. False hopes and lack of exit plan will lead to lockdown impatience.


Not too much to ask IMO to a competent and sincere government. Problem is our government are a bunch of corrupts, liars, self-servers, incompetents, 'yes' men and charlatans.

[sikhthetech] 26/4/2020 17:46

I expect the Lloy share price will be at this or higher levels next year...
However, I'm expecting them to go lower beforehand as the economic fallout of the lockdown becomes clearer..

Hence why I'm drip feeding whilst still expecting them to go lower..

[jl5006] 26/4/2020 17:46

Was the NHS just about giving people with absolute body function failures drugs at a cost unbelievable?
Was this crisis all about the NHS and its associated bodies fearing it could not cope with patients - such as above - with even more of what it was not prepared for.
Any simple flu would have killed many of those who died - even a cold !
NHS has been in the pits for years - they treat those not entitled - overseas lot - dont pursue debts and succumb to every spurious - sometimes justified - compensation for £billions.
We have to devise another form of healthcare - tiered - managed and paid for.