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[xxxxxy] 27/4/2020 15:48

John Jones27 Apr 2020 1:15PMGrowing numbers going back to work is inevitable as three things not entirely clear a month ago crystallise in people's minds:1) Most now know coronaviruses have never had a successful vaccine or cure developed after decades of trying so continuing lockdown until we've got one or the other for Covid-19, probably several years from now, is just not credible.2) The fatality rate for Covid-19 is turning out around the world to be quite low by pandemic standards, killing in the UK only about 1/15th or 1/20th of the proportion of the population taken by Spanish Flu in 1918 and a tiny fraction of what the plagues of the medieval and early modern periods inflicted, so a complete indefinite global shutdown would be disproportionate.3) Everyone has seen the projections of tens of thousands of businesses going bust in Britain in May and June and 11 million unemployed and the evaporation of up to 30% of the tax base that we need to fund public services even at current levels (never mind the additional spending many want) if lockdown continues unabated. Accordingly preventing this permanent damage happening is now a priority for large number of owners and workers.

[aljm] 27/4/2020 15:48

is it just me, or are the graphs broken ?

[mikemichael2] 27/4/2020 15:46

Carefull Jacko, you will have him hitting the bottle even earlier.

[aljm] 27/4/2020 15:26

lol Jacko, you need money to trade, thats why he is on here so much, as he has lost all of his...

[aljm] 27/4/2020 15:24

awww, truth hurt ?

[gbh2] 27/4/2020 15:23

Patience threshold exceeded:

aljm 27 Apr '20 - 15:09 - 9323 of 9323 (Filtered)

[aljm] 27/4/2020 15:09

CHLORINE DIOXIDE KILLS HARMFUL BACTERIA?

Yes. ClO2 kills bacteria, viruses, cancer cells—it will selectively target anaerobic pathogens and kill them through oxidation, an electrical reaction where one chemical steals the electrons of another. Some in the health community may be familiar with the oxidative capacity of food grade hydrogen peroxide and ozone therapy, chlorine dioxide oxidizes similarly. When a ClO2 molecule comes into contact with a virus or bacteria cell, it rips electrons from the cell and destroys it. Because of its sterilization ability and relative cheapness, this compound is commonly used in a variety of industries such as hospitals and restaurants. The Environmental Protection Agency has it registered for these purposes. However, ClO2 isn't just used as an industrial cleaner, a stabilized version is commonly used by hikers and campers to kill waterborne pathogens for clean drinking water. These potable water drops and tablets have chlorine dioxide listed as the main ingredient and can be easily purchased at any camping supply store such as REI or online shopping websites like Amazon. So, if chlorine dioxide is not a "toxic bleach," why are people like myself being ridiculed by mainstream media for discussing it? And why is there no mention of suppliers like REI and Amazon? Two reasons—one is simply shoddy and the other is downright shameful. Shoddy journalism is to blame when only the biased FDA is used as a resource. For example, the FDA puts out warning letters about ClO2, calling it a deadly bleach without explanation, citing zero science or research about the compound. Yet, the military and the EPA use ClO2 at high dosages to tackle extreme contaminants like Anthrax and Ebola, and the USDA and even the FDA itself have chlorine dioxide registered to decontaminate with. And take a look at this—studies have been done showing chlorine dioxide to be effective at killing the coronavirus too. Take that, propaganda peddlers! And it goes to note that while high dosages of most decontaminates are not safe to be around, low doses (like what hikers use for potable water and those drinking it internally to kill pathogens) can be very safe. Anything can harm or help depending on how you use it. Conscious usage is key. And the shameful part of this issue? The medical establishment is trying to suppress the sharing of any potential health benefits of ClO2 because it is inexpensive and effective.

Whenever a media or science talking head states that ClO2 is “essentially bleach,” either they didn’t pass high school chemistry or they’re knowingly misguiding you—trying to confuse people into thinking it’s the same as the commercial Clorox tucked away in our laundry cabinets. Clorox bleach itself is sodium hypochlorite, which of course, is not chlorine dioxide, and has far different mechanisms of action. And what's funny is that Chlorine dioxide is a gas, so when the media says "drink bleach" they're just further revealing their ignorance. So as you can see, there's a total misrepresentation of what ClO2 actually is—a gaseous compound that works to disinfect pathogens very effectively through oxidation.

if it is so dangerous, why are they starting to replace Chlorine in the water , with Chlorine dioxode ? methinks someone has been watching MSM too much !

[gbh2] 27/4/2020 15:06

ffs, chlorine up to 4 parts per million is considered ok for Tap water, not Trump's blanket Drink bleach!

Neither of which is going help this dead dog's share price

[minerve 2] 27/4/2020 14:43

Well, we do know that more than the usual average have died and we also know that the largest number of deaths by Covid-19 in Europe will be that of the UK.

Brexit BALLS UP.

BORIS BALLS UP.

But don't worry folks, the circus clown with the urine-stained hair do is back to lead the lemmings to the final victory!

ROFLMAO!

[alphorn] 27/4/2020 14:38

max #757. That is why it is informative to look at total monthly deaths.

[hernando2] 27/4/2020 14:34

Colloidal silver should never be ingested but it is useful in very particular circumstances, this from the NCCIH website,

'Topical silver (used on the skin) has some appropriate medical uses, such as in bandages and dressings to treat burns, skin wounds, or skin infections. It’s also in medicines to prevent conjunctivitis (an eye condition) in newborns. However, there are no legally marketed prescription or over-the-counter drugs containing colloidal silver that are taken by mouth.'

It can be dangerous to ingest, i use it on cuts and so on, great for dogs that get cuts as the vet always prescribes antibiotics when they get cuts and that is not good IMO

[diku] 27/4/2020 14:16

Same goes with some of these CEOs...they don't have ideas of their own...get ideas from consultants, advisors, investment bankers etc etc to which they get paid...

[aljm] 27/4/2020 14:08

yup, plead ignorance, you are only as good as the information you get, what have we got to fear with the UK having Bill Gates hiding in the background , pulling his puppet's string ?

[aljm] 27/4/2020 14:05

Everyone is ingesting Chlorine on a daily basis..... you drink water i presume ?

[diku] 27/4/2020 14:04

Politicians will say they took decisions based on medical experts/advisers...

[gbh2] 27/4/2020 14:04

That would be a mouth rinse, ingesting any form of Chlorine long term would not be wise, but as with investing, the choice IS yours.

[aljm] 27/4/2020 14:02

would bet a big fortune, they are all too busy making dance videos !!!

[aljm] 27/4/2020 14:01

very similar theme to the US, people been getting away with far too much for far to long , hopefully the truth is just about to break, hoping the next couple of weeks we will see heads start to roll, and funny you should put a picture up of Tom Hanks......

[mr.elbee] 27/4/2020 14:00

but not in UK hospitals you can bet a small fortune on that

[aljm] 27/4/2020 13:58

spot on Maxk, the truth will come out one day, and some people will have some awkward questions to answer !!

[diku] 27/4/2020 13:53

It is all very well to applaud when insiders take a bit of a pay cut under the current circumstances...compare that to what they have already taken in the past...and compare their entire current remuneration package that includes company benefits...me thinks a good PR ing for the gullible ...




There, the CEO and CFO have taken salary cuts of 33%, and all other board members plus the senior management have taken cuts of 25%. Makes a nice change from just firing a few thousand people while giving yourselves a bonus for doing so.