Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[pierre oreilly] 11/4/2020 14:11

I think with an engineering degree from a russel group uni will be recognised by everyone, not just engineering companies, as an excellent qualification, so even if aerospace and oil does collapse, he'll be ok with his transferable skills. Getting a c.eng and a eur ing will put him in demand.

I advised my kids not to do engineering, because it's (usually, depending on the branch) a 3 or now 4 year effin hard slog, and the rewards didn't used to be there. But I understand things are better today.

[minerve 2] 11/4/2020 14:07

Pierre

We could argue all day. As far as investing is concerned I could see that BT at £5 wasn't going anywhere where you couldn't. No degree will teach you those skills. It is Buffetism of uncommon common sense - something which you lack.

[zicopele] 11/4/2020 14:03

Utrick...education will change dramatically over the next few years.

The UK universities are in big financial trouble with fewer students from overseas next year. There will be carnage.

I know a university careers advisor. Go for a good strategic course with prospects is her advice.

Doing something you enjoy with no career prospects is ridiculous.

My boy went to a Russell Group uni to study engineering by the way. He had a graduate entry into one of the oil majors.

Is this a good move? I worry that big oil may not be a great place to be in the next few years.

Neither may aerospace. Who knows?

[pierre oreilly] 11/4/2020 13:58

Bargain, Yes, I agree about polies being very useful when they were initially founded. They were excellent for many less academic studies, and fulfilled a vital roll imv, a roll which isn;t filled at all at the moment. Apprenticeships were great - experience in the real working environment, and then off to study for a while and repeat. I did an undergraduate apprenticeship, on the job for a year, 3 years traditional degree, then another year on the job, after which i realised uk engineering at the time was the pits and very lowly regarded and rewarded, so off I went even after i got the most plum job going (involving some flying which i wanted to do) and to compensate for 90 other recent graduates from the apprenticeship wanting the job, decided to pay me less than everyone else! FFS! Polies were great, less academic and more practical which was and is exactly what was needed for many. But when turned into universities, the conning of the youth started, with the less academic product like Min thinking they have the monopoly of brain cells, when they have relatively few. And they read wiki articles not seeming to realise anyone can write them, and they are not an authority.

[bargainbob] 11/4/2020 13:53

Kenneth Clarke described Johnson as a general who stands on the sidelines watching the battle . He waits until his troops gain the upperhand and chase the enemy .
Then when they are within feet of catching them he runs to the front of them and screams “ follow me” !

[utrickytrees] 11/4/2020 13:49

Zicopete as a parent I'm glad my lad got into engineering at the level hes at, Got a worthwhile degree that's cost him nowt, nearly paid off his first mortgage at 27 and is part of something worthwhile. He has found that hes good at presenting and regularly carries out briefings on safety issues at a snr level to Beoing etc...got to be better than sitting at a desk trading shares allday!

[zicopele] 11/4/2020 13:43

Ken...maybe you should read the Daily Mail.

Their brand specialises in answering that question.

It was probably illegal migrants.

[kenbachelor] 11/4/2020 13:36

We've just had a call from our son's partner who helps run our local hospice. She's just called in there and found that it's been broken into, causing about £2,000 in damage. It seems that nothing was stolen, but what is the world coming to?

[zicopele] 11/4/2020 13:35

Hey Utrick.. I am with you on this.

Hiding behind the snobbery of a Russell University degree gets one only so far.

Unfortunately, most engineers dont make much money but always tick along nicely.

[utrickytrees] 11/4/2020 13:30

Ofcourse you can do a degree 1 day a week if your getting sound practical experience the other 4 days a week, that experience cannt be taught in a lecture hall. A level requirements were A B B from memory.

[utrickytrees] 11/4/2020 13:24

The offer would have been an offer to to apply to RR higher apprenticeship programme. Of 30k applicants less than 30 were successful in his intake year.

[zicopele] 11/4/2020 13:20

I believe there is a lot of Block Release with RR and a B.Eng is awarded after five years.

The criteria of design for Chartered status are met and crucially, the degree is recognised within aerospace.

I met such an individual on a flight last year.

She was making what for her was a good choice.


Most graduates without real skills struggle in the job market.

[minerve 2] 11/4/2020 13:14

I'm not sneering. You cannot do the same degree attending once a week whereas others are full-time. I thought that would be obvious. You may have more on-the-job experience but your wider knowledge will obviously be somewhat limited.

My job was in electronics but I know quite a bit about other things including the maths behind LNBs or high-voltage systems as two examples.

[zicopele] 11/4/2020 13:06

RR came to my sons school to offer apprenticeships leading to degrees in Mech Eng.

My son did not take up the offer to be interviewed, nor did any of his friends.

However, that boy who graduated in Mech Eng with RR has no student debt and a very good career in aerospace.

Dont sneer at it.

Russell Group does not guarantee a good job.

[xxxxxy] 11/4/2020 12:34

Seems Boris in Recovery.Been in the front line Respect.Wish him well. Love him. And NO DEAL

[minerve 2] 11/4/2020 12:14

"my lad was sponsored by RR, did his degree 1 day a week & got a first in mechanical engineering"

One day a week is no real degree. Sorry. Must have been desperate for mechanical engineers.

[maxidi] 11/4/2020 12:08

Best laugh I've had in ages. Only a few minutes but brilliant.


hxxps://youtu.be/DcvH87Npf5I

[bargainbob] 11/4/2020 11:59

Mate worked at Queensferry then Greenock.

[minerve 2] 11/4/2020 11:58

bargain

Oh, I remember the AS/400, interesting. I worked at IBM R&D Hursley. Gorgeous place to work.

[bargainbob] 11/4/2020 11:55

Bad news Charlie Fairhead chucked the towel at Holby General.