Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[pierre oreilly] 21/10/2019 08:17

So lloys isn't getting hammered first thing, as some fortune tellers predicted over the weekend.

[pierre oreilly] 21/10/2019 08:13

The penalty for traitors not so long ago was to be hung drawn and quartered. If you weren't too badly disliked, the monarch would grant, if in a nice mood, an executioner to chop your head off instead.

So firstly, your are hung by the neck (not hanged, meaning a quick death by using your weight to severe the spinal chord), when after a while, moved to a slab, usually in public. The executionrs' art was to draw out your guts while keeping you alive, and placing them in full view of the traitor. After another few minutes to comtemplate your traitoring, you finally get quartered, during which you probably die.

[malcolmmm] 21/10/2019 08:10

This morning from 5 live at the New Covent Garden fruit and veg, traders there say no problem whatsoever with supply's but could harm European side of things not us,Spain and Holland etc are worried they will lose our market

[xxxxxy] 21/10/2019 08:09

Japan does not pay to trade.LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE

[alphorn] 21/10/2019 08:08

"which we wouldn't, btw". Can we try and keep to fact rather than what may or may not have happened.

[alphorn] 21/10/2019 08:07

P - whatever the result it would have been heavily divisive. As you should be aware by now my preferred option is for an orderly departure from the EU.
If your preference is for a No Deal then we have a disagreement.

[poikka] 21/10/2019 08:01

A - "so you would 'do nothing'?"

You would not be banging on about this if the result of the referendum had been to remain, and "loons" (to use your terminology) like me were trying to frustrate the result - which we wouldn't, btw.

You're making a complete fool of yourself.

[poikka] 21/10/2019 07:56

cpap man - "Where has the Black Horse [lloyds Bank] thread gone?"

Just look on ADVFN, it's there right alongside this thread. If you can't find that, you shouldn't even be thinking of investing.

[alphorn] 21/10/2019 07:54

P - so you would 'do nothing'?

There is plenty of background for the role of PM UK. This sentence is relevant "The Prime Minister also acts as the public "face" and "voice" of Her Majesty's Government, both at home and abroad".
Just how many governments are there?

[alphorn] 21/10/2019 07:53

The Tories have been lucky over the past few years in having a very weak opposition. They may have been lucky but have still managed to screw almost everything by their own infighting. The country has most certainly suffered. My guess is that a more centre figure will take over from Corbyn prior to an election which could have a major impact.
A strong opposition is always necessary especially in difficult times.

[poikka] 21/10/2019 07:52

Morning Alps and all. We've been over the letter saga, and my view remains the same that it was not his letter so why should he sign it.

The court case was highly questionable, and the motives behind the case totally undemocratic.

Taking the case to court was stretching the credibility of our justice system.

To use the courts for the purpose of foiling democracy brings us into totally new territory.

THAT was what was so wrong, and THAT was the "dirty politics", not Boris' letter.

[xxxxxy] 21/10/2019 07:40

Remainers are intent on damaging the economy.

[diku] 21/10/2019 07:38

It is beyond dirty Politics...

[icejelly] 21/10/2019 07:32

We have dirty politics already.

[alphorn] 21/10/2019 07:31

Poika - the question is do you do nothing about the 3 letter farce? Nobody can say that it was the normal way of communicating to another key party. Result may just be a knuckle rapping but if you do nothing then what will follow? Dirty politics.

[poikka] 21/10/2019 07:12

Joanna Cherry, the 'woman' who is leading the challenge to Boris' letter to the EU.

"On 8 May 2019 The Daily Telegraph reported she had had her official credit card repeatedly suspended for failing to repay money.

On 11 May 2019 The Times reported that Cherry was being investigated by the House of Commons over bullying complaints from four former employees. She was criticised for using the bullying claims – and accusations of transphobia – to advance her leadership ambitions.

One former staffer (out of four who made complaints) took the complaint forward, though Cherry was exonerated from these accusations on 28 June 2019 after an investigation by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards."

[alphorn] 21/10/2019 07:12

mm2 - looking likely. Worth it just to get rid of the x5 & Co loons.

[freddie01] 21/10/2019 07:12

Thank you for your reply bob.

[xxxxxy] 21/10/2019 07:10

How joining the EU led to a big decline in UK industry
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JUNE 16, 2016
There are also crucial issues to understand about how the asymmetric single market did damage to Uk industry. When we joined the EEC, now the EU, in 1973, more barriers to trade had been pulled down in manufacturing than in services. EU rules were often such that UK industry was badly damaged by the shock of joining and the continued shock of staying in as the rules increased and tightened.
When the UK joined the EU we had a 45 million tonnes a year steel industry. Today we are battling to save an 11 million tonnes industry.
When we joined the EU we had a 400,000 tonnes a year aluminium industry. Today we have just 43,000 tonnes of capacity left.
When we joined the EU we had 20 million tonnes of cement capacity. Today we have 12 million tonnes.
Just before we joined the EEC in 1971 we had a 1 million tonnes a year fishing industry. Today we have 600,000 tonnes.
The October 2013 government “Future of Manufacturing” Report shows that between 1951 and 1973 metals output rose 3% a year. Since joining the EEC/EU it has declined by more than 6%
Between 1951 and 1973 food and drink output rose by 5.6% per year. Since joining the EEC/EU it has fallen by 1% a year.
Between 1951 and 1973 textiles output expanded at 2.6% a year. Since joining the EEC/EU it has fallen by more than 6% a year.
Whilst it may not be fair to blame all this decline on membership of the EU, as there are other factors, it nonetheless shows categorically that joining the EU and helping create the so called single market has not helped us grow and has not saved many of our industries from decline.
In some cases EU policies are the main driver of the disaster. The Common Fishing Policy is clearly the main reason for the dreadful decline of our fishing industry, as many foreign vessels were licenced to take our fish. Our energy intensive businesses were often damaged by the high energy prices required by the EU common energy policy.
The EU has prevented UK subsidy of industry under its state aids rules, but has often provided subsidised loans and grants to businesses to set up elsewhere in the EU. The UK has seen a spate of factory closures balanced by new and expanded facilities in poorer EU countries. The UK lost van production to Turkey, car capacity to Slovakia, chocolate to Poland, domestic appliances to the Netherlands and the Czech Republic and metal containers to Poland amongst others in recent years. In various cases there was an EU grant or loan involved in the new capacity.
Looking at our huge balance of payments deficit today in goods with the rest of the EU, we can see the long term impact of the EU’s damage to our manufacturing capacity.
This April’s balance of payments figures show us in heavy deficit in machinery, vehicles, electrical machinery, mineral fuels, plastics, iron and steel, wood and clothing. Last year our total goods trade deficit hit £85 billion with the rest of the EU. Between 2008 and 2015 our exports grew at 5% with the rest of the world, whilst falling with the EU.
Perhaps remain might like to answer the following questions:
Why have we suffered industrial decline and closures with production shifting elsewhere in Europe since joining the EEC?
Why do trade in surplus with the rest of the world but have such a huge deficit with the EU?
Why have we ended up importing fish, electricity, steel and much else when we used to self sufficient?

[mikemichael2] 21/10/2019 07:09

Game over xxxxx, looks like they will do the deal.

[cpap man] 21/10/2019 07:04

Where has the Black Horse [lloyds Bank] thread gone?